I like how shema does not only refer to the singularity of God; it also testifies to his unity. Long before Jesus Christ was revealed to humans as the Son of God, long before the Holy Spirit was given to the church at Pentecost, God revealed himself as a mysterious unity.
Yes, unitarians are judaizers stuck in the Pharisaic way of thinking. They're more than willing to throw a rock at anyone who declares that Jesus is God, in emulation of how the Pharisees attempted to throw rocks at Jesus when he declared himself the I AM.
God is one singuar person. Please see John 17:3, 1 Cor. 8:6, Eph. 4:6, etc. God is defined as the Father, never defined as three persons.
Another unfounded claim completely lacking any Scriptural support. There are no prophecies of God incarnating, no claims by Jesus to be God, and no one thoughts Jesus was God. There are no verses about a trinity in the Bible. You are completely misunderstanding who God is. Your claims carry no credibility or authority.
You are like the Pharisees. They claimed to be experts on Moses' teachings yet they rejected Jesus. Like I said earlier that if you are rejecting the divinity of Christ because you do not see the term "incarnation" in the Old Testament then you also cannot see Christ in the Old Testament as one to die for your sins. Nor can you claim that the Messiah came to help gentiles.
Skimmed through it. No Scriptural citations. Just a bunch of hot air. Seems that's all you have left.
By taking up his life again, what he was saying was that he would receive his life again. Lambanó λαμβάνω means to receive in John 10:18. This is why the entire Bible states that after Jesus died it was someone else who resurrected him. Please see my thread, Scripture teaches that Jesus was not involved in his resurrection
Yes, Jesus had to ask the Father to do it rather than just doing it himself. This means that Jesus is not God.
The Word is not The God. There is no Word in the Old Testament with God in the beginning. A Word isn't a person or being, it's a thing. The Word is being personified in a poetic way in John 1. Please see 1 John 1:1-3 where the Word is explicitly defined as a thing.
Contextually, this is about all things in the church. See Hebrews 1:1,2 where God didn't speak through the Son in the past, but rather through the other prophets, but in these "last days" God speaks through the Son. Jesus didn't exist until these last days to speak through. God was also not speaking through the Word in the past.
Certainly. I know your disdain of scriptures. you use them to deny Christ. I'm sorry that you got stuck in this mode from being in a church group who did not sufficiently help make known the Triune God to you.
In our exchange, I am the last one on record providing a a Scriptural source for why the trinity is false and you have failed to rebuttal. Emotional rants about your false opinions about me are meaningless. You've lost the debate by conventional standards. You aren't invited to continue ranting about me just because you have sour grapes, but I understand. I would be frustrated like you seem to be, too, if I couldn't even prove the core of my religion using the book I lay claim to. You'll realize eventually the Bible isn't your book, it's ours.
I am not here for debate. I just like to remind you that your eisegesis makes the sharing of scriptures useless.
Wrong. Evidence is using any data, statement, or observation that can be used to support a claim. For example, your claim is that God is a trinity. Now, if you want to argue your claims that the Trinity is Biblical, you must provide evidence. You need to show some statements about God being three, any observations about God being three, or any data that is in lign with what your claim is.
I get to keep reminding people how the unitarians are hyper-literalists. I also am pointing out that the hyper-literalism contradicts their expectation that Jesus could die on the cross for the sins of people. Thus, the unitarians have no basis to trust that concept in the New Testament and therefore have no basis to claim they are reconciled with God. Their lack of claim is on the same basis that they do not have a phrase in the OT that says "Jesus will die on the cross for reconciliation of man with God." Maybe if the unitarian can overcome that obstacle then they will be freed from the obstacle of understanding the Trinity. The unitarian is contradictory and cannot be trusted for worthwhile interpretation of scripture.
This is bizarre. Did you forget that they were using literal animal sacrifices for the literal forgiveness of sins in the Old Testament? Animals who aren't even God, getting sacrificed, were getting peoples' sins forgiven, albeit for as long as someone didn't sin. They would require a new sacrifice when they sinned again. Jesus being a sinless human is what made his sacrifice superior and sufficient to purge sin once and for all.
As we can see in this additional example, the unitarian is inconsistent for lacking a passage in the OT saying "Jesus will die on the cross for the sins of man to reconcile man with God." But then the unitarian expects a passage in the OT saying "God is a Triune God." The unitarian cannot accept that this is clarified in the NT.
Whatever. You seem to have filled your head with a bunch of philosophy and interpretations of everything the Bible says. Forgiveness of sins came through the literal blood of Jesus (means the literal death of Jesus) do you agree with that or not?
Indeed. Christ as the divine incarnated Son made his death more than just martyrdom. It was his ability to raise himself that gives Christians the victory.
So just the body of Jesus died, but not God, in your view?
We can perceive that he experienced the pain and death. I cannot extrapolate all the metaphysical details pertaining to Christ's death on the cross. Maybe someone has a more specific answer. All it would do however is fuel your disbelief in Jesus.
