Why The Trinity is Wrong: Language Usage

[Wrangler]

Zero proof for your outlandish assertion.

OK. Say again what your rejection criteria is; what set of words disprove the trinity? (Don’t copy and paste. Thanks)

 

[Wrangler]

I won't recognize - meaning accept - that which is a lie.

The lie is the son is the father. Only the father is God according to Scripture. Why do you not accept that?

 

[Fred]

OK. Say again what your rejection criteria is; what set of words disprove the trinity? (Don’t copy and paste. Thanks)

1. The Lord Jesus would not be proper recipient of prayer.

--The fact that the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer proves He is God.
Don't respond with a ridiculous post saying others are prayed to, because if anyone other than God is prayed to then it is prayer done IMPROPERLY.

2. Old Testament texts about YHWH are applied in reference to Jesus in the New Testament.

 

[Fred]

The lie is the son is the father.

I agree.
That doesn't refute what the Trinity is at all.

Only the father is God according to Scripture. Why do you not accept that?

See my previous post.

 

[Wrangler]

1. The Lord Jesus would not be proper recipient of prayer.

2. Old Testament texts about YHWH are applied in reference to Jesus in the New Testament.

Both already refuted multiple times. Your rejection criteria is Circular and hence, invalid. What is you valid rejection criteria? You got none.

That is, how can both 1 and 2 be true AND Jesus not be God? That is the rejection criteria I am asking.

 

[Fred]

Both already refuted multiple times.

No proof given.

Typical.
You cannot defend your heresy.
It's a pitiful joke.

 

[Fred]

That is, how can both 1 and 2 be true AND Jesus not be God?

That's just it.
There is no valid proof against it.

Your choice by denying Jesus is God is to have the Bible contradict itself.

 

[Wrangler]

No proof given.

Sure I did. Because you have invalid acceptance criteria, you cannot accept the proof provided.

 

[Wrangler]

That's just it.
There is no valid proof against it.

That’s how you know you HAVE NO VALID REJECTION CRITERIA!!! All you got is Circular Reasoning.

 

[Fred]

Sure I did. Because you have invalid acceptance criteria, you cannot accept the proof provided.

What applies to "only" God encompasses the Lord Jesus.

This proves the Lord Jesus is God.

Thanks for making this easy for me.

 

[Wrangler]

That's just it.
There is no valid proof against it.

Your choice by denying Jesus is God is to have the Bible contradict itself.

No. You are setting up the contradictions. Others are prayed to. Doesn’t make them God.

Jesus is the prophesied Messiah. Doesn’t make him God.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You are not recognizing Jesus is not God and that is how they are ‘different’, modalism aside.

Said differently, moralism is just a form of mystical dualism - which I reject.

But there are many cults that deny His Humanity and many cults that deny His Deity.
And many cults that deny the Trinity of God expressed in Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Which one is you?
Or should I guess?
It'd be easier if you just told me which cult you belong to.

 

[Fred]

That’s how you know you HAVE NO VALID REJECTION CRITERIA!!! All you got is Circular Reasoning.

See post 150.

 

[Wrangler]

And many cults that deny the Trinity of God expressed in Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

And many cults that accept the Trinity of God expressed in Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

 

[Fred]

No. You are setting up the contradictions. Others are prayed to. Doesn’t make them God.

Already addressed in post 143.
Now, you are making this even easier for me.

Thanks.

Jesus is the prophesied Messiah. Doesn’t make him God.

Doesn't make Him not God.

 

[Wrangler]

Doesn't make Him not God.

What makes Jesus not God is many things. In this thread, I've repeatedly demonstrated Language Usage. 'God gave Jesus' is not to be construed to mean that God gave himself.

Drops Mic

 

[Fred]

What makes Jesus not God is many things. In this thread, I've repeatedly demonstrated Language Usage. 'God gave Jesus' is not to be construed to mean that God gave himself.

Drops Mic

Thanks for refuting Modalsim, not Trinitatianism.

Pick up Bible.

 

[jeremiah1five]

And many cults that accept the Trinity of God expressed in Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

I don't know of any.
Ever.

 

[Wrangler]

I don't know of any.
Ever.

All of them. Christianity is the worlds largest cult, by definition.

 

[jeremiah1five]

All of them. Christianity is the worlds largest cult, by definition.

I'm a little confused here.
You're not a Christian and yet you are here at a Christian discussion forum.
Why is that?