Paul’s teaching in
Romans 1, where he makes it clear that God has revealed Himself through the creation to every human being and that this revelation is not obscure.
You’re right.
Rather, it is in the Greek phaneros and in the Latin manifestum—it is manifest, it is clear.
Yahavah manifest himself, before his people whom was Israel which he made a covenant with, which was going to be done away with, replaced with the new covenant where Yahavah starts to do things, in relationship with those who seek him, writing his laws on their hearts and minds concerning how to treat other people, and Yeshua is a clear image of the one whom had sent Him!
The judgment that Paul expresses in
Romans 1 is this: “Knowing God, they refused to honor Him as God, and they were not grateful.”
And in Romans chapter 2 there is expressed imagery concerning those whom judge others and that’s not good either, being prideful like people out there who believe that they are doing a good deed for God, yet are doing great harm in leading away from truth, away into darkness, which is the absence of Yahavah, but he continues to call by and through his Word through creation, as you shared, and continues call out by the spirit and the bride which had came and went and now welcomes anyone whom decides to have faith, which are of different measures, which is where Yahavah, takes in account all matters of life dealt and choices made.
This is the basis for the universal indictment of the whole human race under the wrath of God.
I don’t believe this is true concerning the wrath of God while he does have his vengeance towards those whom do evil, (this is why we have prison,) some people get set right when they find out for themselves… if any such God that had created all things (by his Word) of course even exists, that takes faith…
The wrath of God towards Israel and the closing covenant and returning victoriously Jesus to rescue the bride and then the rest of the wrath of Yahavah was poured out over a period of time, in which left not one stone left unturned on top of another, promised to come down, in that age which was of the Mosaic Law, which the people had stated to make that their God, rather than Yahavah himself…
That is why there is so much writing concerning the desolate and end of days which would come when the Messiah had shown up on the scene… of course I’m not educated and I have a hard time learning things an I may be wrong, who knows…
But worshipping the Mosaic Law, is like worshipping Jesus and never taking to his God… it’s a message of the mindset… and do they really know whom God is? Have they been fooled? Have they been set free by the Son? Only people who seek out in faith know where they stand concerning these matters and my encouragement is to not believe anyone here speaking on anything…
But go seek it out, and test all things, throw away the bad and hold on to what is good…
The one excuse that is taken away is ignorance. On the judgment day, no one will be able to plead ignorance of God, because He has revealed Himself, and that revelation gets through.
I don’t doubt that people end up see Yeshua, the Lord, and Lamb, and Begotten Son, his Father somewhere idk how close I’ll be to him, but also Abraham, Isaac, Jacob are said to be feasting somehow… in the Kingdom, and that is a notion from Yeshua…
I don’t care about the body, … yeah I should take care of it, but that is a personal choice what I eat, drink,‘or anything else, and it’s between me and the one whom I deem my Father, who is your Father and the Father of many other children, and mature Sons and daughters whom are adopted in to the Kingdom of his Son.
The problem is that fallen man refuses to acknowledge what he knows to be true.
Well, where did Jesus say he part of the trinity club? All we can do is consider what people share.
Whether or not it shakes my faith, her, faith, or his faith… is not my issue. It’s an issue of the heart of the individual - and their personal outlook, experience, etc. which I respect, but when it comes to some things…
it rocks people’s world all they can do is just either repeat the same things or ignore the questions… that’s their choice.
The writer of Hebrews speaks of a shaking that tears down man’s ideas, to the ground… and shakes faith even I think. I could be wrong your right, I haven’t read my Bible as much as I need to be in it…
However … by Gods grace, and his Spirit living within me hasn’t forgotten what it knows from within my own heart, mind, soul… even all the while of knowing… which means little to nothing… is for all people to be encouraged to seek out and pray and continue believing in the resurrection of the Son of God… and grow and mature in Him.
Now, how does all of that influence our defense of theism? God has proven himself to be who he is, our job is to share it with others.
No doubt. I have no issues, with you as a brother or sister in Christ. I just am also sharing why I disagree in generally with the so called “trinity” which means little to nothing in the aspect of knowing the one God sent, or knowing Jesus the one whom he had sent in the actual reading of all the Gospels out loud to themselves, and then thinking about what they read… I was doing a reading through gospels in a month reading chapters a day and recording it for people to watch… but alas my problems continue to plague me and I have yet to try again, along with teaching which was just a joy in learning not only for myself but trying to expand on things founded to get in to mix a little better…
God be with you.
