Who is Jesus?

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Peterlag said:
And Peter answered that question with you are the Christ, (Messiah) the son of God. Peter did not
say you are God.
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I couldn't help but notice Peter didn't say Jesus was "a" son of God; no, he said
"the" son of God.

Now it could be that Peter was thinking of 1Chron 17:11-14 whereby Solomon
became a unique son of God; which implies that each succeeding monarch in
Solomon's line of kings held that distinction. Maybe, I don't know for sure, but it
got me to thinking.

God has many sons, but Jesus is the only one among those many that is God's
actual paternal descendant, i.e. Jesus is God's sole biological son instead of one of
His many adopted sons. (John 1:14, John 3:16, John 3:18, and 1John 4:9)

My own paternal son doesn't look much like me, but in spite of our physical
differences, he is just as much a human being as I because he is the progeny of a
human being. So if Jesus really and truly is God's paternal descendant, then Jesus
is just as much a divine being as God because he is the progeny of a divine being--
in point of fact, the progeny of the one true divine being.

Most adults are familiar with the birds and the bees, viz: we are aware that like
produces like, to wit: birds produce birds and bees produce bees. Well; if God were
to reproduce, He would produce more of His own kind just as when I reproduced, I
produced more of my own kind, viz: divine produces divine just as human produces
human.

I don't know how God went about reproducing Himself, but I'm pretty well
convinced that Jesus is a very special theophany. None of the Old testament's
theophanies had genealogies, whereas Jesus does, viz: he is just as biologically
related to Adam as he's biologically related to God. Pretty amazing.
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That's My King​

Song by​

CeCe Winans
Mm
I wish I could tell you, wish I could describe it
But I can't contain it, can't keep it to myself
There aren't enough colors to paint the whole picture
Not enough words to ever say what I've found
Wonderful and beautiful
And glorious, and holy
He is merciful and powerful
Who we talking about?
That's my King
We declare the glory
Give Him all the honor
Altogether worthy
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
There's no one before You
Yes, we will adore You
All of this is for You
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Jesus, You're my King
Ay-ay
I'm not letting the rocks cry without joining the chorus
There aren't enough notes to make the harmony
It's the song of the angels (angels)
Through all of the ages (ages)
It's all of the earth and heaven's symphony
Wonderful and beautiful
And glorious, and holy
He is merciful and powerful
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
We declare the glory
Give Him all the honor
Altogether worthy
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
There's no one before You
Yes, we will adore You
All of this is for You
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
That's my King
Is He your King tonight?
That's my King, that's my God
That's my Shepherd, my Protector
That's my King, that's my Rock
That's my Anchor, my Defender
That's my King, that's my God
That's my Shepherd, my Protector
That's my King, that's my Rock
That's my Anchor, my Defender
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
We declare the glory (hey)
Give Him all the honor
Altogether worthy
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
We declare the glory (yeah)
Give Him all the honor
Altogether worthy
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
There's no one before You (hey)
Yes, we will adore You (hey)
All of this is for You (who?)
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King (King of kings)
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King (King forever)
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King (God, You reign)
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Come on and give Him praise
He is the King of kings
He is the Lord of lords
He is the everlasting Father

Songwriters: Taylor Agan, Lloyd Nicks, Kellie Gamble, Jess Russ. For non-commercial use only.
 
Hosanna said:

That's My King​

Song by​

CeCe Winans
Mm
I wish I could tell you, wish I could describe it
But I can't contain it, can't keep it to myself
There aren't enough colors to paint the whole picture
Not enough words to ever say what I've found
Wonderful and beautiful
And glorious, and holy
He is merciful and powerful
Who we talking about?
That's my King
We declare the glory
Give Him all the honor
Altogether worthy
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
There's no one before You
Yes, we will adore You
All of this is for You
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Jesus, You're my King
Ay-ay
I'm not letting the rocks cry without joining the chorus
There aren't enough notes to make the harmony
It's the song of the angels (angels)
Through all of the ages (ages)
It's all of the earth and heaven's symphony
Wonderful and beautiful
And glorious, and holy
He is merciful and powerful
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
We declare the glory
Give Him all the honor
Altogether worthy
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
There's no one before You
Yes, we will adore You
All of this is for You
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
That's my King
Is He your King tonight?
That's my King, that's my God
That's my Shepherd, my Protector
That's my King, that's my Rock
That's my Anchor, my Defender
That's my King, that's my God
That's my Shepherd, my Protector
That's my King, that's my Rock
That's my Anchor, my Defender
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
We declare the glory (hey)
Give Him all the honor
Altogether worthy
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
We declare the glory (yeah)
Give Him all the honor
Altogether worthy
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
There's no one before You (hey)
Yes, we will adore You (hey)
All of this is for You (who?)
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King (King of kings)
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King (King forever)
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King (God, You reign)
Who we talkin' about?
That's my King
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Come on and give Him praise
He is the King of kings
He is the Lord of lords
He is the everlasting Father

Songwriters: Taylor Agan, Lloyd Nicks, Kellie Gamble, Jess Russ. For non-commercial use only.
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That's a good one, so is this one.

 
101G said:
sure in the ECHAD of ordinal First and Ordinal Last. listen and learn. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." see that I, I, I, a single person is "WITH" the Last. is this two persons? let the bible .... God himself tell us. Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." I, I, I, a single person who is First/Father/Creator/LORD, and is "ALSO" the Last/Son/Redeemer/ Lord.

please note "ALSO" means in addition; too. got that? it's the same one person in the ECHAD of First and Last, listen, John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW? the Word who is "WITH" God is "GOD"..... the same one person as here. Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:11 "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea." Revelation 2:8 "And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;" Revelation 22:13 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

see, 101G did not have to tell you, God did in his word. please learn what THE 259 ECHAD means.

101G.
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LORD=YHWH( or YHVH) =Yahweh=Jehovah- Jesus is Yeshua, not Yahweh.
Small g god in the Greek lexicons=100% fact to the word.
 
dwight92070 said:
There are two passages in the New Testament that, taken a certain way, would seem to indicate that he did. One is in Ephesians 4:9 where it says that Christ descended into the lower parts of the earth. This probably means that he descended to the earth, which is the lower parts. The "of" there doesn't mean that he is going under the earth. So I don't think that text warrants the interpretation that he descended into hell.

The other text is 1 Peter 3:18-20 where it says that Christ went to speak to the spirits who are now in bondage. That is, they have died—having lived in the days of Noah—and they are now in bondage; and Christ went to speak to them. Some take that to mean that between Good Friday and Easter Christ went to hell and he preached the gospel there. But I don't think that is the meaning of this text either. I think it means that when these people were alive in the days of Noah, in the Spirit Christ spoke to them through the preaching of Noah; and now they are in prison.

So my conclusion is that there is no textual basis for believing that Christ descended into hell. In fact, he said to the thief on the cross, "Today you will be with me in paradise."
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Ephesians 4:7 "But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ." Ephesians 4:8 "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men." Ephesians 4:9 "(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?" Ephesians 4:10 "He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)" Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death." Acts 2:25 "For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:" Acts 2:26 "Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:" Acts 2:27 "Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."

so, the Lord Jesus went into hell. that "DAY", and was in hell for two more days. so he could not be with the thief that Day, or when spoken, "Today".

101G.
 
Keiw1 said:
LORD=YHWH( or YHVH) =Yahweh=Jehovah- Jesus is Yeshua, not Yahweh.
Small g god in the Greek lexicons=100% fact to the word.
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ERROR, Listen and Learn. Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
the "LORD", all caps is your YHWH( or YHVH) =Yahweh=Jehovah .... correct. now this the same chapter only 5 verses below. Psalms 110:5 "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."

that same "Lord" at his, (the LORD) Right IS
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113
Compare: H3068, H1167, H1168

notice definition #2 The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” . yes, the same person, only diversified or EQUALLY SHARED in flesh.

so again, there is no "god" .... with him, him who is JESUS.... (Oh this is so easy).

101G
 
Keiw1 said:
LORD=YHWH( or YHVH) =Yahweh=Jehovah- Jesus is Yeshua, not Yahweh.
Small g god in the Greek lexicons=100% fact to the word.
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ieue is the transliteration
and it means He who gives breath

josephus notes the four letters are vowels
 
The four hebrew letters for ieue, individually, mean "He who gives Breath".


“A mitre also of fine linen encompassed his head, which was tied by a blue ribbon, about which there was another golden crown, in which was engraven the sacred name [of the Almighty]: it consists of four vowels.” ——Josephus, 75 AD, The War of the Jews, Book 5. 5. 7.
 
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David was the beginning of Israel's monarchs (2Sam 7:8-14, 1Chron 22:7-10).
So then, as their paterfamilias, David would normally be superior to them all.

In addition; David holds the rank of firstborn among any and all the monarchs we
could possibly name (Ps 89:20-27) In that position, there would normally be no
human power higher than David's. In point of fact; David was as close to
becoming a divine being as any man has ever been . . until Messiah.

A Psalm Of David: "The Lord says to my lord: Sit at my right hand until I make
your enemies a footstool for your feet." (110:1)

There are two distinctly different Hebrew words translated by the English word
"lord" in that verse.

The first is Jehovah (a.k.a. Yahweh) which is a name restricted to God's use. (Isa
42:8)

The second is 'adown which is a common word for superiors in the Old Testament;
both human and divine, for instance: Sarah referred to her husband as 'adown
(Gen 18:12).The people of Heth addressed Abraham as 'adown (Gen 23:5-6).
Abraham's trusted servant referred to him as 'adown (Gen 24:12). Rachel
addressed her father Laban as 'adown (Gen 31:35). Jacob addressed Esau as
'adown (Gen 33:8). And God is spoken of as 'adown too, e.g. Isa 1:24 and Isa 3:1
et al.

The fact of the matter is: the 'adown in Ps 110:1 is Messiah.

● Matt 22:41-45 . . .While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them:
What do you think about Messiah? Whose son is he? They replied: The son of
David. He said to them: How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him
Lord? For David says: The Lord said to my lord: Sit at my right hand until I put
your enemies under your feet. If then David calls him Lord, how can Messiah be
David's son?

Ps 110:1 presents a quirky theological difficulty. Normally none of David's paternal
descendants outrank him. But here in this Psalm is one of his paternal descendants
that not only outranks him, but is also in a position to rule David as a subject, which
implies that David is no longer God's firstborn among monarchs because the distinction
has been transferred to one of David's sons.

* In scripture; the honor, the privileges, the rights, the responsibilities, and the duties
of primogeniture aren't set in concrete, i.e. they are quite transferrable from a senior
to a junior-- for example Ishmael to Isaac (Gen 20:11-12) Esau to Jacob (Gen 25:23)
Reuben to Joseph (Gen 49:3-4, 1Chr 5:1) Manasseh to Ephraim (Gen 48:13-14) and
of course David to Messiah. (Ps 110:1, Matt 22:42-45)

There is yet one more element to factor in to this discussion. According to Ps 110:1
Messiah is seated at God's right hand, which implies that Messiah has been promoted
to divinity, i.e. he's a divine monarch instead of a normal monarch. Whether Messiah
is intrinsically divine is irrelevant. The thing is: he has the God-given right to be revered
as a divine monarch, even by his father David; who would normally be his son's superior
had his son not attained divinity. (cf. Isa 52:13, Dan 7:13-14, Phil 2:7-11)
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The following is from "Know What You Believe" by Paul E. Little written in 1973. He also wrote several other books: "Know Why You Believe", "Know Who You Believe" , "How to Give Away Your Faith".

Jesus was not only fully God - He was also fully man, fully human. If He were not fully human, He could not have represented us on the cross, and He could not be the High Priest who comforts and strengthens us.
If Jesus were not fully God, He could not be our Savior. A perfect life qualified Him to become the sacrificial offering for sin. Old Testament types all insist on the purity of the victim for sacrifice.
Saving faith has always reached out to One who is perfect man and true God.
 
Peterlag said:
Peter did not say deity nor is the word deity even mentioned in the Bible.
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Even the High Priest knew that to claim to be the Messiah, the Son of God, which Jesus did - was a claim to be God. Matthew 26:63-65 and Mark 14:61-63 Jesus also told him that he would see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of power, and coming with the clouds of heaven. The High Priest in both passages accused Jesus of blasphemy - basically making Himself equal with God - just like the apostle John tells us He did in John 5:18.

If Jesus was not God, then He really was guilty of blasphemy, but since He is God, there is no blasphemy.
 
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FAQ: Did Jesus have God's blood in his flesh instead of human blood?[font]

REPLY: According to Lev 17:11, the life of the flesh is in the blood. Well then, had
there been God's life in Jesus' flesh instead of human life, then Jesus would've
been precluded from inheriting David's throne because Jesus would've failed to
satisfy the biological requirement of Ps 132:11 which says:

"The Lord has sworn in truth unto David; and He will not turn from it: "Of the fruit
of your body will I set upon your throne"

Plus: Acts 2:29-30 & Rom 1:3 would be easily proven false statements.

One of the oldest creeds in the church states that Jesus is fully God and fully Man.
Well that creed would be grossly mistaken if something other than David's life was
in Jesus' flesh. Plus: on numerous occasions Jesus referred to himself as "Son of
Man" which, likewise, would be patently false were David's life not in his flesh.
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101G said:
ERROR, Listen and Learn. Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
the "LORD", all caps is your YHWH( or YHVH) =Yahweh=Jehovah .... correct. now this the same chapter only 5 verses below. Psalms 110:5 "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."

that same "Lord" at his, (the LORD) Right IS
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113
Compare: H3068, H1167, H1168

notice definition #2 The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” . yes, the same person, only diversified or EQUALLY SHARED in flesh.

so again, there is no "god" .... with him, him who is JESUS.... (Oh this is so easy).

101G
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Psalm 110:1 by Gods will=YHWH said to my Lord( Jesus)
 

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