What Does “Another Gospel” Mean?
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Not blaming sinful nature~but, your question is utmost important: "So then, why did Adam sin?"
Your question shows the difference shows between the two covenants. Jim, as you well know, God alone is immutable, he neither can sin, or even be tempted to do so, his infinite holy nature hates sin, and the sinner. Neither angels, or man, who are created beings, posses that glorious attribute of immutability, an attribute which only the Everlasting God posses. This is one of the many truths we learn from the fall of angels and man.
Under the New Covenant, God's mercy and power secured our free gift of eternal life through the faith and obedience of His Son, Jesus Christ, which is the message of the true grace of God/the gospel as preached by the first church.
We are born with a sinful nature, and sin will will serve, unless, and until God's mercy is given to us freely on the behalf of Jesus Christ, according to the will of God, if we are indeed part of the election of grace.
I never said Paul's conversion was not unique, for indeed it was, yet in his regeneration, we all are quicken to life/born of God in the same manner, so, the question is when was Paul quicken to life? That's is hidden from us.
civic
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Unlike you and I Paul was set apart by God from his mother womb( Galatians 1:15 ) like we read with both John the baptist and Jesus. We read this about no other Apostle except Paul.
I'm considering how to answer your (Jeremiah) post without leaving the threads purpose of addressing the true gospel vs another gospel.
I want to spend time watching the inauguration of our 47th President.
For our nation, our president, and vice president. He has many enemies that would love to see him dead.
civic
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2025 should be a real interesting year in our countries history. Yes we should all be praying for wisdom in leading the world according to Gods plan.I'm considering how to answer your (Jeremiah) post without leaving the threads purpose of addressing the true gospel vs another gospel.
I want to spend time watching the inauguration of our 47th President.
praise_yeshua
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Not correct. It is the good news of Jesus Christ. Get it right.
praise_yeshua
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Unique in calling but not unique in substance.
praise_yeshua
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I believe such words are often misunderstood.
I'd reference the event as being similar to Samuel and Hannah. Paul spoke of being a Hebrew of Hebrews. A faithful man because of his fathers/mothers. To me, obviously, dedicated.
I would agree that this very seldom happens. If it were not for Hannah, Samuel would have been what?
Calvinists always seek to see themselves unique in the purpose of God when in reality they are just like everyone else.
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praise_yeshua
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Paul had faith, what He lacked was repentance.
This is the very reason that John the Baptist came preaching repentance.
It took seeing the death of Stephen and God's purpose in the early church playing out before his own eyes to recognize what God was doing.
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This thread is not about Calvinism, nor, Arminianism ~ give us your understanding of the true gospel...better yet, please address:
Four simple questions, can answer them according to God's testimony?
There is no way to address your post without redirecting this thread from it original purpose. For now I will only say this,
The Seed of Abraham is Christ and His elect.
Galatians 3:16“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”
Galatians 3:27-29
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
atpollard
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Are any two conversions IDENTICAL?
No, I think ALL are unique.
The MEANS God used to reach Paul was uncommon, but only unique in its details.
- God has laid other enemies low before raising them up as servants
- Paul was not the first or last to claim God spoke to them
- God has sent believers to minister to those in need of Truth
- Those passionate against God have become equally passionate for God once they saw the truth
praise_yeshua
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Then I will reference you by name.
The Gospel is the message of Jesus Christ as preached by the apostle Paul. I believe what Paul preached.....
There is no other definition.
Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Simple answer. Are you trying to complicate it?
praise_yeshua
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John came preach a Baptism that was different than what was preached after the ascension of Jesus Christ. There are several other difference but it certainly experiences are certainly similar now.
praise_yeshua
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Within Protestant theology there is no Gospel that does not adhere to the proper Ordus Solutis that is preached by the Protestant traditions.
civic
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Paul was the last person Jesus appeared to in person.
atpollard
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Not according to Muslim converts to Christianity in the world today.
[... Or the Book of Mormon, but they are an unreliable witness]
Dizerner
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atpollard
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Jesus spoke with Ananias and ordered him to heal Paul.
(1205) Francis of Assisi reported a vision in which Jesus spoke to him: "Francis, Francis, go and repair My house which, as you can see, is falling into ruins." ... which led him to renounce his merchant family, embrace poverty and form the Franciscan order.
(1372) Julian of Norwich was on her deathbed and had been given her last rites when she reported a series of visions of Jesus, followed by a sudden recovery. Twenty years later she wrote about these visions in her book "Revelations of Divine Love” ... she saw the image of Christ and her understanding that Christ still dwells in the souls of those who love him (celebrated in the Anglican Church).
I am not in a position to authenticate or refute it ... I merely cannot put Jesus (God) into a box and say "never". He spoke to me (no visions) and THAT ENCOUNTER changed everything for me.
(1205) Francis of Assisi reported a vision in which Jesus spoke to him: "Francis, Francis, go and repair My house which, as you can see, is falling into ruins." ... which led him to renounce his merchant family, embrace poverty and form the Franciscan order.
(1372) Julian of Norwich was on her deathbed and had been given her last rites when she reported a series of visions of Jesus, followed by a sudden recovery. Twenty years later she wrote about these visions in her book "Revelations of Divine Love” ... she saw the image of Christ and her understanding that Christ still dwells in the souls of those who love him (celebrated in the Anglican Church).
I am not in a position to authenticate or refute it ... I merely cannot put Jesus (God) into a box and say "never". He spoke to me (no visions) and THAT ENCOUNTER changed everything for me.
