You still have two persons with an equal share of God thus refuting your own modalist position.
Understanding God Plurality as one Person
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LOL, T....... can you not comprehend? listen, G243 Allos "Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort"
understand, ...... a numerical difference is the same as the Ordinal designation of FIRST/Father/LORD. and the Ordinal designation of LAST/Son/Lord. (smile). this designation of First and Last is in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RABK just as the Hebrew term "Beginning" in Genesis 1:1 states, as well as the Hebrew term "H259 ECHAD/ONE "clearly states in Deuteronomy 6:4 clearly states. and get this, that numerical difference of, of, G243 Allos, and the First and Last in the same one person is clearly stated in Isaiah 63:5 as his, his, his, "OWN ARM" this is just too easy not to understand. ............
YIKES!see, "Diversified Oneness" is biblically Sound, and in the bible in plain sight.. ... 101G just LOVE this knowledge
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You just re-affirmed your belief in at least two persons in the godheadLOL, T....... can you not comprehend? listen, G243 Allos "Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort"
understand, ...... a numerical difference is the same as the Ordinal designation of FIRST/Father/LORD. and the Ordinal designation of LAST/Son/Lord. (smile). this designation of First and Last is in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RABK just as the Hebrew term "Beginning" in Genesis 1:1 states, as well as the Hebrew term "H259 ECHAD/ONE "clearly states in Deuteronomy 6:4 clearly states. and get this, that numerical difference of, of, G243 Allos, and the First and Last in the same one person is clearly stated in Isaiah 63:5 as his, his, his, "OWN ARM" this is just too easy not to understand. ............
see, "Diversified Oneness" is biblically Sound, and in the bible in plain sight.. ... 101G just LOVE this knowledge
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that along with your statement of equal shares of God shows you cannot consistently claim God is but one person
101G
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can you really read with understanding? try reading post #202 again ok.
now the clear example, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." IS THIS TWO PERSONS? if you say yes, then this. Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." just look up what "ALSO" means.... (smile)....
YIKES!101G
No need your other comments sufficient refute your claimscan you really read with understanding? try reading post #202 again ok.
now the clear example, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." IS THIS TWO PERSONS? if you say yes, then this. Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." just look up what "ALSO" means.... (smile)....
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Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort"
that along with your statement of equal shares of God shows you cannot consistently claim God is but one person
BTW both the Father and Jesus are the first and the last
Revelation 1:7–8 (KJV 1900) — 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Revelation 22:12–13 (KJV 1900) — 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
101G
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lol, you have two Gods... checkmate, because the LORD said he, he, he, ONE PERSON is First and the Last. and there is only ONE First and only ONE Last. this shows that you have no understanding of a numerical difference just as G243 Allos states. and as the H259 ECHAD of ONE states ......... (smile) oh my...
KNOW the definition of H259 ECHAD and G243 Allos THE "ANOTHER", of his OWNSELF. ......
Oh my God. 101G.
101G suggest you read, KNOW, and understand what the terms First and Last, means as well as, Beginning and End, Alpha and Omega, and Root and Offspring means.
Um those were your statementslol, you have two Gods... checkmate, because the LORD said he, he, he, ONE PERSON is First and the Last. and there is only ONE First and only ONE Last. this shows that you have no understanding of a numerical difference just as G243 Allos states. and as the H259 ECHAD of ONE states ......... (smile) oh my...
KNOW the definition of H259 ECHAD and G243 Allos THE "ANOTHER", of his OWNSELF. ......
101G.
101G suggest you read, KNOW, and understand what the terms First and Last, means as well as, Beginning and End, Alpha and Omega, and Root and Offspring means.
Thus you have two persons being God
You checkmated yourself
Nopelol, you have two Gods... checkmate, because the LORD said he, he, he, ONE PERSON is First and the Last. and there is only ONE First and only ONE Last. this shows that you have no understanding of a numerical difference just as G243 Allos states. and as the H259 ECHAD of ONE states ......... (smile) oh my...
KNOW the definition of H259 ECHAD and G243 Allos THE "ANOTHER", of his OWNSELF. ......
101G.
101G suggest you read, KNOW, and understand what the terms First and Last, means as well as, Beginning and End, Alpha and Omega, and Root and Offspring means.
two person here but 1 being
You have two persons who are Gods
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Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort"
that along with your statement of equal shares of God shows you cannot consistently claim God is but one person
BTW both the Father and Jesus are the first and the last
Revelation 1:7–8 (KJV 1900) — 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Revelation 22:12–13 (KJV 1900) — 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
BTW you never addressed the first and last citiations noted above
101G
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nor do you read, or UNDERTSTAND. Last time for you. so pay close attention.
Step #1. First and Last, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." I, I, I, I, I am he, he, he, he, ONE PERSON.... the First ... "WITH" .... Last. now listen to God, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." so how is God with HIMSELF yet also HIMSELF? answer EQUAL SHARED just as Philippians 2:6-8 clearly states. the EQUAL SHARE is the "a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort"
Step #2. a numerical difference = First and Last. of the same sort =SAME "ONE" PERSON. just as Isaiah 41:4 and Isaiah 48:12 reveals.
Step #3. is DIVERSITY of the Godhead in the Bible? yes. scriptures. A. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." the Lord Jesus is BEFORE David/ROOT, and he is also ... "ALSO" ... AFTER David/OFFSPRING.
the term OFFSPRING is the key, it is the Greek word,
G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man), diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
Root(s): G1096
BINGO, diversity. this is the numerical difference. now let's see this in scriptures. 1 Corinthians 12:4 "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit." 1 Corinthians 12:5 "And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord." 1 Corinthians 12:6 "And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all."
this term "diversities", and "differences" are the same Greek word,
G1243 διαίρεσις diairesis (d̮iy-ai'-re-sis) n.
a distinction or (concretely) variety.
[from G1244]
KJV: difference, diversity
Root(s): G1244
BUT THE SAME GOD, which is the SAME "SORT" just as G243 allos clearly states...... (smile)... this is just too easy. 101G just love it.
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101G
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the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last is the Root and the Offspring..... check mate. I, I, I, Jesus... again ONE PERSON.
game over.101G.
Sorry you already noted two personsthe Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last is the Root and the Offspring..... check mate. I, I, I, Jesus... again ONE PERSON.
101G.
Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort"
that along with your statement of equal shares of God shows you cannot consistently claim God is but one person
That barn door has been closed
The issue here is both are stated to be the first and the last
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sorry for yourself. do you know what "SAME... SORT" means?.. please look up the term "SORT", while online, go to dictionary.com and find out what "Sort" means.
but ..................
TomL, TomL this is not for you. Only for those who wish to repent from their ERROR. You been brainwashed into a delusion on three persons. Listen, 2 Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (READ THAT AGAIN) 2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." did not God warn of this? Isaiah 66:4 "I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not."
As said, this is not for you, so don’t stress out over it …. ok.... (smile).
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So you acknowledge His Spirit who is his partner? Or only you acknowledge His Son?
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I dont see how any of the positions are not modalist since the result is one Being, which is a misnomer...
The point is the first commandment, which is enough.
He, His Spirit and His Son have His nature, which He shares to them
and His Spirit and Son are IN Him... so, that link I shared, re the filioque might help..
in that His Son and His Spirit do all that He asks...
The reality is that the current government of the evil realm, in the other reality, is ending...
and that all those to whom He granted Being, fully,
will be together soon in paradise, all the sons and daughters...
where the sons will again be in His Image and will rule with Christ,
and have dominion over their eden land, and will restore their land
which was desolated because of adam...
and the daughters will again be in the image of His Feminine Spirit...
His image = to carry His Attributes, to be like Him, of His nature,
in one's being and core...
p.s.
That is what the stakes of this war with the evil realm
were... in their image of jealousy, they sought to
vampire and steal from us all that God
gave us... which was not to be a
silly ape creature in this dungeon earth...
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For, the two witnesses are the Originals of Eden and
are the two sticks, the blueprints of His Image which we
lost because of Adam after the fall...
that all of us will Receive from Him and be restored to,
which many call being saved or regenerated or resurrection body...
all the same thing. That is our Promise...
are the two sticks, the blueprints of His Image which we
lost because of Adam after the fall...
that all of us will Receive from Him and be restored to,
which many call being saved or regenerated or resurrection body...
all the same thing. That is our Promise...
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Because modalisms assume one person who acts in three different roles
That is not trinitarianism.
