Thomas... My Lord and my God

[Fred]

I did answer the question properly. But you did not like the answer when I said...

Jesus was made the Lord

That ignores whether or not the Father is the 'Lord" of every Christian.

Clue up.

 

[Doug Brents]

Here's Romans 6:1-4. Show me what verse says when we are made new in Christ our spirit is resurrected?

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Forgive me. I didn't review the passage before I posted it. Continue on to verses 5-7.

 

[Peterlag]

Forgive me. I didn't review the passage before I posted it. Continue on to verses 5-7.

Here's Romans 6:5-7. Show me what verse says when we are made new in Christ our spirit is resurrected?

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

 

[Peterlag]

That ignores whether or not the Father is the 'Lord" of every Christian.

Clue up.

You got nothing.

 

[Fred]

You got nothing.

Keep telling yourself that.

 

[Runningman]

No I don't really care about what they call me. I just want fairness if I can get it. But now I never thought that somebody might be hitting a report button.

Yeah it happens. There is someone who regularly reports me on a different forum every time I attempt to interpret his writings. Imagine having a Bible discussion, you reply, but it turns out the other person baited you and switched into victimized "Christian" mode with a persecution complex. I mean, sometimes you just gotta roll with it and pray for them to grow thicker skin.

 

[mikesw]

What's your point though?

here's the link on the virgin birth topic: #VirginBirthSignificance

Jesus can be called God's Son by virtue of the virgin birth where God's Spirit overshadowed Mary. The virgin birth is senseless without the divinity of Christ. If there were not something more than humans bearing humans, then it would have been Joseph as the father of Jesus.

 

[Peterlag]

Yeah it happens. There is someone who regularly reports me on a different forum every time I attempt to interpret his writings. Imagine having a Bible discussion, you reply, but it turns out the other person baited you and switched into victimized "Christian" mode with a persecution complex. I mean, sometimes you just gotta roll with it and pray for them to grow thicker skin.

I'm only here to help if I can. I count them being nasty to me as a sign I'm correct on how I see the Scriptures. The majority has never been right at anytime in history on the subject of the Scriptures. When I was younger I used to say to myself if I'm following the larger group on a biblical subject then I will probably be following the wrong side. The fools use that against me. They say we follow what most of the world does and you follow the smaller group.

 

[Doug Brents]

Here's Romans 6:5-7. Show me what verse says when we are made new in Christ our spirit is resurrected?

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Was Jesus separated from the Father because of our sin that was placed upon Him on the cross? Yes.
That means His spirit died on the cross just as our spirit dies when we sin.

Was Jesus resurrected from the dead, both physically and spiritually, by the Holy Spirit? Yes.
And as verse 5 here says, our spirit is resurrected by the same Holy Spirit in the same manner that Jesus was resurrected.

 

[Runningman]

I'm only here to help if I can. I count them being nasty to me as a sign I'm correct on how I see the Scriptures. The majority has never been right at anytime in history on the subject of the Scriptures. When I was younger I used to say to myself if I'm following the larger group on a biblical subject then I will probably be following the wrong side. The fools use that against me. They say we follow what most of the world does and you follow the smaller group.

Don't let them give you the wrong idea. There are literally maybe 12 trinitarians who galavant the Internet on every forum they can find and argue against God and insult people everday day. It may be tempting to think they are all like that, but they aren't. There are some genuine truth-seekers in their organization who mean well and will readily believe what the Bible says about God. It's rewarding on a personal and spiritual level to see trinitarians convert to Christianity when they finally see that there is no God but the Father. Many of them are shocked that they have read the Bible a 100 times but never really noticed that there isn't a trinity to begin with.

Younger people are easier to talk to about this subject and have fewer obstacles to overcome. I used to lead a ministry of prayer and Bible study. Almost all of them eventually formed their own ministries and became active in evangelism as well. Unitarianism is very easy to understand, is Biblical, and easy to evangelize with. People can understand that Jesus is a man who God empowered and annointed, but God being a man doesn't make any sense either from a common sense perspective or a Biblical perspective.