Thomas... My Lord and my God

[Runningman]

so you decide scripture is bankrupt and from that you decide against the Triune evidence in scripture and call it false doctrine. wonderful.

It doesn't show any verses after Jesus died of him resurrecting himself.

 

[mikesw]

It doesn't show any verses after Jesus died of him resurrecting himself.

now you deny the resurrection. what next?

 

[Runningman]

now you deny the resurrection. what next?

That isn't what I said. Jesus was resurrected, but Jesus didn't resurrect himself. After Jesus died, no one went around teaching Jesus resurrected himself or was even involved in his own resurrection. Wow, looks like no one wanted anyone to get the idea that Jesus was God.

 

[mikesw]

That isn't what I said. Jesus was resurrected, but Jesus didn't resurrect himself. After Jesus died, no one went around teaching Jesus resurrected himself or was even involved in his own resurrection. Wow, looks like no one wanted anyone to get the idea that Jesus was God.

it is true the Sadducees and Pharisees did not want people to recognize the divinity of Christ. And certainly God does not ask people to join the Sadducees and Pharisees in denying Christ today. Stop saying that God cannot resurrect himself when incarnate.
I know why it is impossible for a unitarian to write a book contesting the passages showing the Triune nature of God. Of course the first reason is that the arguments will fail. The other reason is that they would be sharing the verses that testify against their view. It seems like Peterlag knows these verses but he only uses little verses that he thinks he can argue his view from.

 

[Runningman]

it is true the Sadducees and Pharisees did not want people to recognize the divinity of Christ. And certainly God does not ask people to join the Sadducees and Pharisees in denying Christ today. Stop saying that God cannot resurrect himself when incarnate.
I know why it is impossible for a unitarian to write a book contesting the passages showing the Triune nature of God. Of course the first reason is that the arguments will fail. The other reason is that they would be sharing the verses that testify against their view. It seems like Peterlag knows these verses but he only uses little verses that he thinks he can argue his view from.

No one in the Bible said Jesus resurrected himself after he died because they knew Jesus wouldn't have been able to survive his own death and sacrifice in order to do such a thing. You must believe God raised Jesus from the dead in order to be saved. Romans 10:9

 

[mikesw]

No one in the Bible said Jesus resurrected himself after he died because they knew Jesus wouldn't have been able to survive his own death and sacrifice in order to do such a thing. You must believe God raised Jesus from the dead in order to be saved. Romans 10:9

Duh. Jesus did survive after his body died. Maybe you heard that he still lives. Nothing says that Jesus has to be alive on earth to initiate the resurrection of himself. That is just silly talk.
I do believe God raised his incarnate self from the dead.
Maybe you can write a book addressing the passages that demonstrate the Triune nature of God so you can show how you interpret those against the essence of God.

 

[Peterlag]

That is the single most arrogant, boastful, prideful, egotistical, and WRONG statements I have read in this forum in a long time. You cannot fill a cup that is already full.

I have noticed we graduate from all the other subjects be it accounting, mechanics or dentistry. We study the books and complete the course that brings us to the required accomplished task which is the ability to know how to do something. We study a map to learn how to get someplace.Thus, our study ends with us able to get from point A to point B, fix a tooth, balance the financial numbers or build the car. How come we spend our entire lives studying the Bible and yet nobody seems to graduate?

What I believe I have been able to graduate from is the following verse...

1 Corinthians 1:9
God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

This cannot be achieved if we do not know the attributes and characteristics of the resurrected Christ Jesus.

 

[Peterlag]

So you deny what Scripture says in favor of your own opinion? 'Nuff said!

I always find it interesting that anything I say is my opinion and everything you say is the Word of God. That was the context that was written to someone else that you picked up out of context and twisted it into I deny the Scriptures.

 

[mikesw]

I always find it interesting that anything I say is my opinion and everything you say is the Word of God. That was the context that was written to someone else that you picked up out of context and twisted it into I deny the Scriptures.

Peterlag has been proven wrong too many times and thus, in kindness, the points are identified merely as his opinion.

 

[Runningman]

Duh. Jesus did survive after his body died. Maybe you heard that he still lives. Nothing says that Jesus has to be alive on earth to initiate the resurrection of himself. That is just silly talk.
I do believe God raised his incarnate self from the dead.
Maybe you can write a book addressing the passages that demonstrate the Triune nature of God so you can show how you interpret those against the essence of God.

Jesus didn't survive his death or else he was not sacrificed. Scripture teaches that Jesus' body, soul, and spirit all were sacrificed and required resurrection.

Isaiah 53
10Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush Him
and to cause Him to suffer;
and when His soul is made a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days,
and the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.

1 Corinthians 15
44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam a life-giving spirit.