Thomas... My Lord and my God

[synergy]

A will different than God's falls into the category of self-interests.

Jesus never ever had "a will different than God's" (the Father). More degradations of Jesus being spewed out from your heretical mind.

How else do you think Jesus was tempted? Temptation refers to the things that someone wants. Jesus was indeed tempted. Here let's look at it. Let me know if you don't like it.

Matthew 4 NIV
1Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”

4Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.

5Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6“If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“ ‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’
7Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’

8Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

10Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.

11Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

In those verses a temptation was attempted on Jesus which utterly failed to materialize. At no time did Jesus ever demonstrate or possess "a will different than God's" (the Father). This shows just how far you're willing to incorrectly stigmatize Jesus for the sake of your heretical ideas.

 

[Runningman]

Jesus never ever had "a will different than God's" (the Father). More degradations of Jesus being spewed out from your heretical mind.

In those verses a temptation was attempted on Jesus which utterly failed to materialize. At no time did Jesus ever demonstrate or possess "a will different than God's" (the Father). This shows just how far you're willing to incorrectly stigmatize Jesus for the sake of your heretical ideas.

Jesus was tempted to sin according to the Bible, but resisted/overcame all.

 

[synergy]

Jesus was tempted to sin according to the Bible, but resisted/overcame all.

So where did Jesus ever demonstrate "a will different than God's" (the Father) or any "self-interest" as you falsely claimed?

 

[civic]

So where did Jesus ever demonstrate "a will different than God's" (the Father) or any "self-interest" as you falsely claimed?

crickets

 

[Runningman]

So where did Jesus ever demonstrate "a will different than God's" (the Father) or any "self-interest" as you falsely claimed?

The whole Bible Jesus demonstrated he is not God.

Luke 22
42Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

Philippians 2
6Who, existing in the form of God,
did not consider equality with God
something to be grasped,
7but emptied Himself,
taking the form of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
He humbled Himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross.

 

[Peterlag]

Communication happens by use of words. The biblical phrases happen to be words that translators used. Your philosophical preference for so-called "biblical phrases" is of course your choice of pursuit. But that does not hamper us other people from using normal English words. I'm sorry if communication is a difficult concept for you.

Your issue with him as the Son of God may address a limitation of the coverage or wording of the Trinitarian doctrine rather than a failure of it. I'm not able to pursue that now, but that does not decrease his essence of his Father. Until you disprove the verses that point to Christ's divinity, your Unitarian arguments are useless. Your simple "proof" texts do not cancel out the divinity of Christ in the Godhead.

I hope we can still be friends.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Do you believe God can raise from the dead?

Let me answer for you: Yes, you do.

19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
John 2:18–21.

There ya go. Jesus is God and proved it by raising Himself from the dead.

The Son raised Himself from the dead.
The Father raised the Son from the dead.
And the Spirit raised the Son of God from the dead.

Do you deny Jesus is God by raising Himself from the dead?
Yes, you do. This proves you to be an unbeliever.

'Nuff said.