The Spirit of Power

Ozias

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A major point of confusion about the Holy Spirit concerns the differences between His activity in the Old Testament and His work in the New Testament and in the lives of Christians today. The activity of the Holy Spirit goes all the way back to creation: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was with out form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep”(Gen.1:1–2).

The unformed world is described as dark, empty, and formless. Carl Sagan, in his work Cosmos, makes the dogmatic assertion that the universe is cosmos, not chaos, which is the difference between order and confusion. In biblical categories, it is the difference between pure darkness and light, between a vacuous universe ultimately empty of anything significant and that which is filled and teeming with the fruit of the Creator. In the beginning verses of the book of Genesis we find a dramatic proclamation of cosmos, yet the world was without form, and darkness was over the face of the deep.

However, in the next clause of Genesis1:2, we meet the Holy Spirit for the first time: “And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.” Another word for hovering is brooding. This is the idea that was communicated when God sent the angel Gabriel to visit the peasant girl Mary in Nazareth to tell her that she was about to become a mother. Mary asked the angel, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?” (Luke1:34). The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you”.

The verb used to describe the Holy Spirit’s coming upon Mary carries the same connotation as the term used in Genesis 1 to describe the creative power of the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit came into the formlessness and hovered or brooded. As a hen broods over her eggs in order to bring forth life, so the Spirit produced order and substance and light. God, as the New Testament says, is not the author of confusion (1Cor. 14:33).He does not generate chaos. The Spirit of God brings order out of disorder; He brings something out of nothing; He brings light out of darkness.

As we read the Old Testament, we cannot help but be struck by both God’s majesty and His power. When an earthquake occurs or a tornado sweeps through the Plains states, we see pictures of the devastation and feel overwhelmed by the power of nature. But those things are nothing compared to the transcendent power of the Lord of all nature. His power exceeds that of anything that happens on this planet. We see this power manifested in the Old Testament primarily by the Holy Spirit, who in the Greek language is called the dynamis of God. The word dynamis is translated as “power.” It is the word from which we get the English word dynamite. The Holy Spirit is shown to be the Spirit of power.​
 
The Bible says our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit 1 Cor 6:19 and we have this treasure in our earthen vessels that the excellency of power may be of God and not of ourselves. 2 Cor 4 : 7 Ephesians 3:20 states as well, "Now unto him who is able to do exceedingly, abundantly above all that we ask or think according to the power which works within us. We tend to think God needs to answer our prayers from Heaven. Really though he's in our spirits. If we'd daily acknowledge this and act like it we might be surprised to see him manifest himself in way we never dreamed could happen.
 
The Bible says our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit 1 Cor 6:19 and we have this treasure in our earthen vessels that the excellency of power may be of God and not of ourselves. 2 Cor 4 : 7 Ephesians 3:20 states as well, "Now unto him who is able to do exceedingly, abundantly above all that we ask or think according to the power which works within us. We tend to think God needs to answer our prayers from Heaven. Really though he's in our spirits. If we'd daily acknowledge this and act like it we might be surprised to see him manifest himself in way we never dreamed could happen.
Sometimes I forget that He really lives in me and that God is all powerful . That is something to contemplate.
 
Sometimes I forget that He really lives in me and that God is all powerful . That is something to contemplate.
I think is more common than you think in Christianity.

Romans 8
Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. 9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
 
I think is more common than you think in Christianity.

Romans 8
Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. 9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
Romans 8 is my all time favorite chapter in scripture. I appreciate you sharing it with me.
 
For me personally, the most wonderful part of the book of Romans is 8:5, where Paul summarizes how you change from the inside out; how you change deeply. “Those who live in accordance with the Spirit,” he says, “have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.” To grow in Christ and to be changed into people like Christ, we need to set our minds on spiritual things, on things above. We need to learn how to meditate and think about the gospel until it becomes real to our hearts and the foundation of everything we do.

I have always believed that at the heart of Romans 8 you have the secret to really using the gospel in your heart to change yourself in a profound way; and that the rest of Romans will show you what that change will look like in a practical way. I hope that you will find your heart thrilled by the gospel, your mind shaped by the gospel, and your life changed by the gospel.

I'm not ashamed of the Gospel...I'm not ashamed of the one I love.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone believing--both to Jewish first, and to Greek.
Romans 1:6
 
For me personally, the most wonderful part of the book of Romans is 8:5, where Paul summarizes how you change from the inside out; how you change deeply. “Those who live in accordance with the Spirit,” he says, “have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.” To grow in Christ and to be changed into people like Christ, we need to set our minds on spiritual things, on things above. We need to learn how to meditate and think about the gospel until it becomes real to our hearts and the foundation of everything we do.

I have always believed that at the heart of Romans 8 you have the secret to really using the gospel in your heart to change yourself in a profound way; and that the rest of Romans will show you what that change will look like in a practical way. I hope that you will find your heart thrilled by the gospel, your mind shaped by the gospel, and your life changed by the gospel.

I'm not ashamed of the Gospel...I'm not ashamed of the one I love.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone believing--both to Jewish first, and to Greek.
Romans 1:6
That was such a very good post. The Holy Spirit has been on my mind this morning. I've been thinking about how the Spirit–filled life is marked by purpose, power, and effectiveness. It is not something that we do, but something that we are because of who is living and working inside us. God desires for each of His children to live a Spirit–filled life, and He expects us to be led by the Spirit on a daily basis.

"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me." John 4:4

The Spirit–filled life is also not something that a person can study from books. The Spirit–filled life is experienced. It is lived out by real people in real life facing real, and sometimes difficult, circumstances and situations. The Spirit–filled life is not based on emotions, although we are likely to feel various emotions as the Spirit works in us and through us to produce the character of Christ Jesus and to mirror the ministry of Christ Jesus in our life and the world.
 
The Bible says our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit 1 Cor 6:19 and we have this treasure in our earthen vessels that the excellency of power may be of God and not of ourselves. 2 Cor 4 : 7 Ephesians 3:20 states as well, "Now unto him who is able to do exceedingly, abundantly above all that we ask or think according to the power which works within us. We tend to think God needs to answer our prayers from Heaven. Really though he's in our spirits. If we'd daily acknowledge this and act like it we might be surprised to see him manifest himself in way we never dreamed could happen.
I have found this to be true in my life experience with Jesus.
 
Romans 8
CONTEXTUAL INSIGHTS

This chapter is the climax of Paul's argument begun in his theme statement of Rom. 1:16-17. It starts with "no condemnation" (legal standing) and ends with "no separation" (personal fellowship).
Theologically, it moves from justification (Romans 4-5) through sanctification (Romans 6-7) to glorification (cf. Rom. 8:29-30).

This is Paul's theological development of God's giving of His Spirit to believers (cf. John's presentation in John 14:12-31; 16:7-16). The Spirit is the agent of the PASSIVE VERB in Rom. 8:14 that relates to the gospel becoming active in the lives of fallen humans.

The Spirit will abide with them and in them and will begin to form Christ in them. Romans 8 uses the term spirit, pneuma, over 21 times while it is totally absent in Romans 7 (as well as Romans 3-6 and occurs only three times in Romans 1-2; it is difficult to be certain when pneuma refers to the human spirit or the Holy Spirit).


In life there are two perspectives (personal worldviews), two lifestyles, two priorities, two paths (the broad way and the narrow way) that humans follow, here flesh or Spirit. One leads to death; the other to life. This has traditionally been called "the two ways" of OT wisdom literature (cf. Deut. 30:15,19; Psalm 1; Pro. 4:10-19).

Eternal life, Spirit life, has observable characteristics (i.e., after the flesh vs. after the Spirit).

Notice Satan's obvious absence in this entire theological context (cf. Romans 1-8).

He is not mentioned in Romans until 16:20. It is mankind's fallen Adamic nature that is in focus. This was Paul's way of removing fallen mankind's excuse (i.e., "the Devil made me do it!") of supernatural temptation for their rebellion against God. Mankind is responsible!

This chapter is very hard to outline because the thought is developed by weaving several threads of truth together in recurring patterns, but without contextual units.

Verses 12-17 inform the believer about a confident faith assurance
The first is a changed worldview and life style accomplished through the Spirit.
The second is that our fear of God has been replaced by a sense of family love by the Spirit.
The third is an internal confirmation of our sonship by the indwelling Holy Spirit.

The fourth is that this confirmation is even sure in the midst of this fallen world's problems and struggles.

Verses 31-39 are a court scene, which is a typical literary technique of OT prophets. God is the Judge; Satan is the prosecutor; Jesus is the defense lawyer (paraclete); the angels are the spectators; and believing humanity is under Satanic accusations (i.e., Job 1-2; Zechariah 3).
legal terms
against us (Rom. 8:31)
a charge (Rom. 8:33)
justifies (Rom. 8:33)
condemns (Rom. 8:34)
intercedes (Rom. 8:34)
prosecution, "who" (Rom. 8:31,33,34 [thrice],35)
God's provision in Christ (Rom. 8:32, 34b)
no separation from God
earthly circumstances (Rom. 8:35)
OT quote from Ps. 44:22 (Rom. 8:36)
victory (Rom. 8:37,39)
supernatural circumstances or agents (Rom. 8:37-39)

Sun compounds in Romans 8
v. 16 ‒ sun + witness/testify
v. 17 ‒ sun + heir
v. 17 ‒ sun + suffer
v. 17 ‒ sun + glorify
v. 22 ‒ sun + groan
v. 22 ‒ sun + birth pains
v. 26 ‒ sun + take hold of
v. 28 ‒ sun + work with/cooperate
v. 29 ‒ sun +conformed
These compounds denote "joint participation with" or "cooperation with."

Well worth reading-from a man that is unknown by most in the world-written in 49 languages-hermeneutical style and a valuable secondary source that trumps even the Logos Bible Software.

Johann.
 
A major point of confusion about the Holy Spirit concerns the differences between His activity in the Old Testament and His work in the New Testament and in the lives of Christians today. The activity of the Holy Spirit goes all the way back to creation: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was with out form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep”(Gen.1:1–2).

The unformed world is described as dark, empty, and formless. Carl Sagan, in his work Cosmos, makes the dogmatic assertion that the universe is cosmos, not chaos, which is the difference between order and confusion. In biblical categories, it is the difference between pure darkness and light, between a vacuous universe ultimately empty of anything significant and that which is filled and teeming with the fruit of the Creator. In the beginning verses of the book of Genesis we find a dramatic proclamation of cosmos, yet the world was without form, and darkness was over the face of the deep.

However, in the next clause of Genesis1:2, we meet the Holy Spirit for the first time: “And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.” Another word for hovering is brooding. This is the idea that was communicated when God sent the angel Gabriel to visit the peasant girl Mary in Nazareth to tell her that she was about to become a mother. Mary asked the angel, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?” (Luke1:34). The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you”.

The verb used to describe the Holy Spirit’s coming upon Mary carries the same connotation as the term used in Genesis 1 to describe the creative power of the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit came into the formlessness and hovered or brooded. As a hen broods over her eggs in order to bring forth life, so the Spirit produced order and substance and light. God, as the New Testament says, is not the author of confusion (1Cor. 14:33).He does not generate chaos. The Spirit of God brings order out of disorder; He brings something out of nothing; He brings light out of darkness.

As we read the Old Testament, we cannot help but be struck by both God’s majesty and His power. When an earthquake occurs or a tornado sweeps through the Plains states, we see pictures of the devastation and feel overwhelmed by the power of nature. But those things are nothing compared to the transcendent power of the Lord of all nature. His power exceeds that of anything that happens on this planet. We see this power manifested in the Old Testament primarily by the Holy Spirit, who in the Greek language is called the dynamis of God. The word dynamis is translated as “power.” It is the word from which we get the English word dynamite. The Holy Spirit is shown to be the Spirit of power.​
The sometimes forgotten one in the trinity.
 
No doubt about it... Romans 8 is the best chapter in the Bible.
I've always found myself my favorite verses depends on what type of trial I'm going through but Rom 8 of course is very good. Some people like Psalm 91,. or Psalm 23 or all of John 3. Hahha....I think if people got in a fuss about it I think the best chapter in the Bible might be 1 Cor 13 the LOVE chapter to get them out of their strife. . I do agree though Rom 8 is very good! :)
 
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