You did agree that I got one right. Here is the evidence:
You need to explain better. Is 101G you or someone else?
The Spirit of Power
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101G
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but not any face to Face,
well you got one right.... now who sits on the throne. A. the Father, or B. the Lord Jesus. Rev chapter 4 and 5 your answer please.
so where did Face to Face come from?... YOU.
Now, did you answer my question? as to who sits on the throne in Rev chapter 4 & 5 A. the Father, or B. the Lord Jesus.
101G.
101G
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Why the mystery?No need to explain.... (smile)....
101G
Wrangler
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John did not write his Gospel to claim Jesus is God incarnate. Trinitarians are obviously reading it into his words.
Words are a thing, not a person.
Boy, you are a gazillion light years away from what John wrote in his Gospel. John wasn't talking about words. He was talking about the Word, the Word of God to be precise.
Permit me to introduce you to the Word of God:
Rev 19:11 And I saw Heaven opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war.
Rev 19:12 And His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns. And He had a name written, one that no one knew except Himself.
Rev 19:13 And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
101G
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I've read enough of your mystery posts. I'll go with the Bible that contains revelations instead of your mysteries. Thank you very much.no mystery, read my posts, or stay tune..... (smile).....
101G.
101G
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ERROR, the Word is the Spirit. listen Carefully. all the OT prophets says something like this. example, 2 Samuel 7:4 "And it came to pass that night, that the word of the LORD came unto Nathan, saying,"
1 Kings 6:11 "And the word of the LORD came to Solomon, saying,"
Isaiah 38:4 "Then came the word of the LORD to Isaiah, saying,"
Jeremiah 1:2 "To whom the word of the LORD came in the days of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah, in the thirteenth year of his reign."
Ezekiel 1:3 "The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him."
Joel 1:1 "The word of the LORD that came to Joel the son of Pethuel."
Just one more, Zephaniah 1:1 "The word of the LORD which came unto Zephaniah the son of Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of Hizkiah, in the days of Josiah the son of Amon, king of Judah."
ARE WE GETTING THE PICTURE. now the question, HOW, and WHO did the "word" of the LORD COME?"
101G say BY and How of the Word of God as in John 1:1. well how do you know this 101G? Genesis 15:1 "After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward."
IN a VISION? well who used Vision by the prophets? answer, Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets." B.A.M. BAM, BAM. The Lord Spoke, and the Word of the Lord came doing WHAT? ..... saying, and the LORD said what? "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets."
now let's see God clearly, the Spirit JESUS speaking to the Prophets of OLD. 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:" 1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."
WHERE WAS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST? ..... IN THEM, THE PROPHET OF OLD. B.A.M. BAM, BAM. and who is that Spirit? 2 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." WHO DID THEY SPEAK BY? LET'S SEE AGAIN, Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets."
CAN ONE GET ANY PLAINER?
101G
101G
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(smile), Lol, Reading without UNDERSTANDING is no reading at all...... (Oh Dear....
YIKES!101G.
Wrangler
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Sure John was talking about words. And 20:31 explains why he wrote his Gospel, which had nothing to do with claiming Jesus was God incarnate.
Your mystery writings gives no understanding to anyone, that's for sure.(smile), Lol, Reading without UNDERSTANDING is no reading at all...... (Oh Dear....
101G.
101G
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John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:29 "Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John 20:30 "And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:" John 20:31 "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name."
John 5:17 "But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work." John 5:18 "Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God."
101G.
101G
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jealous? .... (smile)......
just keep 101G's Motto in your mind, (see the footer).... 
101G.
John 20:31 is immediately after and concludes the importance of us believing that Jesus is "my God!". Thanks so much for pointing out that verse!
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, My Lord and my God!
John 20:29 Jesus said to him, Thomas, because you have seen Me you have believed. Blessed are they who have not seen and have believed.
Why would anyone be jealous of your mystery writings that is "reading without understanding", as you say.jealous? .... (smile)......
101G.
Wrangler
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Appeal to Diversion. You are obviously misinterpreting John and insisting on taking his words to mean something, other than what he meant. That’s why you changed from 20:31 to another verse.
Who is your lord; Thomas or Jesus?
Jesus said he has a God who is the only true God AND this only true God is greater than Jesus.
Jesus did not teach the Trinity. That’s good enough for me. Why is it not good enough for you?
Wrangler
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Deliberate, misinterpretation of scripture. Who is your lord; Thomas or Jesus?
Jesus said he has a God who is the only true God who is greater than Jesus. That’s good enough for me. Why is it not good enough for you?
Azriel
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The Holy Spirit is the third member of the triune Godhead: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. He is inseparable from the Father and the Son; He is of one nature, character, and identity with them. At the same time, He is a unique person; He has a specific identity and function in our lives, just as Jesus has a specific identity and function and the Father has a specific identity and function. The Holy Spirit is present anytime the Father and the Son are present, and they in turn, are present anytime the Holy Spirit is present.
That's exactly what you did.
Jesus, who commended Thomas' proclamation that Jesus is "my God!" Who is your Lord, the Unitarian Jesus?
Jesus voluntarily layed down His life based on the full authority that He received from His Father.
(John 10:17) Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I might take it again.
(John 10:18) No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down from Myself. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it again. I have received this commandment from My Father.
Jesus made himself of no reputation while on Earth:
Php 2:5 For let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
Php 2:6 who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God,
Php 2:7 but made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Himself the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
The root word of ηλαττωσας, which is ἐλάσσων, is to lessen (in rank or influence). That verse has nothing to do with the false ontological idea that the Word of God (Jesus) "was a created Being".
(Heb 2:7) You have made (ηλαττωσας) him a little lower than the angels. You crowned him with glory and honor and set him over the works of Your hands.
