Acts 22:16 Paul's salvation

[dwight92070]

[Doug] I don't know of a single prison that won't allow a prisoner, even one in solitary confinement, to go, under guard, to a place where he can be baptized. Even prisoners in solitary can receive ministerial services, and if that prisoner comes to faith in Christ, baptism can be arranged for them.


That's amazing how you know what all prisons will or will not allow. How about China? or Russia? or North Korea? or Iran? Syria? Venezuela? In fact, I doubt that you know what all prisons even here in America will or will not allow.

Do you really think that a prison in a communist country would allow a prisoner to get baptized? I thought you were smarter than that. But, according to you, if they won't let a prisoner get baptized, then that prisoner is lost forever.
Also, according to you, that would be HIS OWN FAULT because he should've gotten saved BEFORE he was arrested.

 

[dwight92070]

Doug "Don't give me the, "they never had a chance" routine."

I'm not the one giving out the "they never had a chance" routine. You are. You say that if they don't get baptized, they'll never have a chance to be saved.
I say "they have a chance until they die" (to put their faith in Jesus), whether they are baptized or not.

 

[MTMattie]

Yes, the truth should be plain as the nose on your face. God said, "Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sin and your will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." In other words "whoever believes and is baptized will be saved".

Maybe that is something that we ought to leave up to God. I think He might be able to figure such things out and do the right thing.



Maybe you should follow your own advice.

Mark 16:16 never tells us what happens to people who believe but are not baptized.
But instead of leaving that up to God, you have to "help Him out" by telling us that such people are lost - not saved.

But that verse DOES NOT say that - you have no authority to suggest that it does.
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You do know that the jury is still out if Mark 16:16 was written by the same author as the Goespel of Mark?

The continuity is not there from from leaving Mark 16:8

 

[MTMattie]

That's silly. No, it's not water that saves us. It is God that saves us when He forgives us and gives us the gift of the Holy Spirit. He said He would do that when we repent and are baptized. He further added that was a promise. Do you believe in God's promises?

I do, but I also now know that you do believe in the water necessity as part of salvation.

Your words speak loud and clear.

Blessings

CRella