The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[praise_yeshua]

"At every turn you seek to dishonor Christ"

You are wrong to be nice about it. You're at least using a false accusation or slander. At worst, you're lying. In any case you shouldn't talk bad about people. I love Jesus so much.

You're lying about Jesus Christ. I'm not being nice. Just telling the Truth. Damnation isn't nice.

 

[Runningman]

Who said I used the "J". That is how it is written in English. You know very little about linguistics.

Pay attention. All you're doing it copying and pasting. Pronunciations in Hebrew is very difficult. Think.... late 9th century.

There isn't a J in Hebrew. The names have a J added for English because they were Romanized in the translation. Why would you try to deny something that is easy to look up and prove you wrong about? Are you trying to muddy the waters regarding the meaning of Jesus' real name?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Using your reasoning, you are saying that Jesus said to don't pray to him.

Jesus never taught anyone to pray to him or asked for it.

Here's who you need to pray to:

Matthew 6
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

You're not paying attention at all. I posted the Scripture that says otherwise.

Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

You need to reconcile this in your comments.

Jesus was highly exalted and given a name which is above every name. You don't like this at all. I can tell.

 

[Runningman]

You're lying about Jesus Christ. I'm not being nice. Just telling the Truth. Damnation isn't nice.

Then you are lying about me lying. No damnation is not nice. When will you repent?

 

[praise_yeshua]

There isn't a J in Hebrew. The names have a J added for English because they were Romanized in the translation. Why would you try to deny something that is easy to look up and prove you wrong about? Are you trying to muddy the waters regarding the meaning of Jesus' real name?

I never denied anything Jesus is Latinized. Get it right. Not "Romanized".

Roman isn't a language..... geesh....

 

[Runningman]

You're not paying attention at all. I posted the Scripture that says otherwise.

Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

You need to reconcile this in your comments.

Jesus was highly exalted and given a name which is above every name. You don't like this at all. I can tell.

Yes, according to your reasoning you quoted John 14:14 to support the bad theology of praying to Jesus, but when Jesus commented again on the same topic, you immediately try to avoid the fact that, according to your reasoning, that Jesus taught to not pray to him.

Read it again.

John 16
23And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

 

[Runningman]

I never denied anything Jesus is Latinized. Get it right. Not "Romanized".

Roman isn't a language..... geesh....

Then back to square one where you argued against the Bible:

"Yeshua means YHWH is salvation... Jesus' name isn't YHWH. Hope that helps."

 

[praise_yeshua]

Then you are lying about me lying. No damnation is not nice. When will you repent?

You lied about Jesus Christ. Does Jesus have a name which is above every name?

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Yes, according to your reasoning you quoted John 14:14 to support the bad theology of praying to Jesus, but when Jesus commented again on the same topic, you immediately try to avoid the fact that, according to your reasoning, that Jesus taught to not pray to him.

Read it again.

John 16
23And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

In that day? Do you pay attention to what you read. The context is "in that day".

 

[praise_yeshua]

Then back to square one where you argued against the Bible:

"Yeshua means YHWH is salvation... Jesus' name isn't YHWH. Hope that helps."

So there is a Roman language. You're copying and pasting. I know the subject. You don't. Copying and pasting is a witness to your failures.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

You're unlearned and inexperienced.

We are all unlearned and inexperienced, and you can also learn a lot from @Runningman, as I do.

Arrogance turns our arguments as irrelevant as if we were discussing whether Real Madrid or Barcelona play better football.

 

[Runningman]

In that day? Do you pay attention to what you read. The context is "in that day".

That day has already passed. Jesus taught to not pray to him according to you.... Matthew 6:6,9 is still there. There are no other teachings on prayer in the Bible. You are to pray to the Father.

 

[Runningman]

So there is a Roman language. You're copying and pasting. I know the subject. You don't. Copying and pasting is a witness to your failures.

Repetition is a teacher. Here's the truth...

"Yeshua means YHWH is salvation... Jesus' name isn't YHWH. Hope that helps."

 

[Runningman]

You lied about Jesus Christ. Does Jesus have a name which is above every name?

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

According to Scripture, Jesus was "given" his name that is above every name, but obviously he isn't above the one who gave him his name.

The Father is above all, including Jesus, according to Scrpture.

Ephesians 4
6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

I can read. No need to imply I'm sinful yourself. Use your own standard "You have no knowledge of the intimate life of".....

Hypocrite.



You're not anyone's "savior". @Runningman can answer for himself. He doesn't need you. Physician, heal thyself.

I don't want to bother you without need.
I'm just pointing out to you, and our readers, that you made an undue judgement upon @Runningman.

It will help you to apologize publicly for having accused your brother @Runningman of seeking to dishonor Christ, as you have no knowledge of his intimate life.

 

[praise_yeshua]

We are all unlearned and inexperienced, and you can also learn a lot from @Runningman, as I do.

Arrogance turns our arguments as irrelevant as if we were discussing whether Real Madrid or Barcelona play better football.

So what have you learned from me?

Don't act like you're being reasonable and treating everyone equally. You're not. You have an agenda. That agenda is to discredit Jesus Christ.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't want to bother you without need.
I'm just pointing out to you, and our readers, that you made an undue judgement upon @Runningman.

It will help you to apologize publicly for having accused your brother @Runningman of seeking to dishonor Christ, as you have no knowledge of his intimate life.

You don't speak for him. He said no apology is needed. Can you read?

Either way, we do not have a compatible theology. What do you expect?

 

[praise_yeshua]

According to Scripture, Jesus was "given" his name that is above every name, but obviously he isn't above the one who gave him his name.

The Father is above all, including Jesus, according to Scrpture.

Ephesians 4
6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

No. They are subservient to one another. That is what Unity is. Being Subservient to one another.

I guess you've never considered yourself a servant to anyone right? Is that why you can't understand the Subservient nature of the Holy Trinity....

Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Notice the "heaven" part.....

Equals. Co-equals

I bet you think you're better than your son? Right? You're the "master" right and even your son must obey you.....

Geesh. What a demoniac teaching straight out of hell.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Is lying slanderous?

To lie is a very different thing that to make a mistake.

The person who lies knows the truth, but intentionally tries to deceive someone to gain something for a temporary (and often false) personal benefit... something that generally goes in detriment of others.

So, when addressing a possible mistake from someone, it is very irresponsible, and definitely not Christian, to say they are lying when we have no evidence of the intentions of that person.

 

[praise_yeshua]

To lie is a very different thing that to make a mistake.

The person who lies knows the truth, but intentionally tries to deceive someone to gain something for a temporary (and often false) personal benefit... something that generally goes in detriment of others.

Not true. Many people repeat lies they do not understand. It is nonetheless a lie.

So, when addressing a possible mistake from someone, it is very irresponsible, and definitely not Christian, to say they are lying when we have no evidence of the intentions of that person.

Intent is your delusional requirement.