The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[civic]

There is the issue of being and then the issue of position. The attributes of being “God”, at a minimum, are being eternally existent and being omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient. This does not preclude a hierarchy of authority among those who are otherwise equal in their nature of being/existence. (ie, being eternal/uncreated).

I am of the opinion that in eternity past, before the dawn of creation, that the idea of hierarchy was unnecessary or irrelevant. Each person is identical and indistinguishable in being, and all are completely harmonic with the thoughts and will of the other. Hierarchy is only necessary in relation to human/temporal reality, not in purely divine/eternal reality. The need for hierarchy is a purely subjective application, not a natural necessity.

Doug

Yes they are conflating roles/ functions with nature.

 

[civic]

To be a sacrifice for our sins. Theology 101.1

Doug

Amazing how the basics are disregarding.

 

[Runningman]

Notice that Paul has to narrow this from the general Godhead to God the Father. It has been normal that all that Jesus does is to glorify the Father. And the Father acts to glorify the Son. There is a coequal relationship in this sense. I'm wondering if you have some argument you want to make beyond the verification of Christ in the Godhead?

Despite only the Father being the only named God in the entire chapter who is God getting the glory, you have created a fantasy about some other nonsense.

 

[Runningman]

To be a sacrifice for our sins. Theology 101.1

Doug

Then why was God already forgiving sins without sacrifices in the OT? Look it up before you ask me.

 

[mikesw]

Despite only the Father being the only named God in the entire chapter who is God getting the glory, you have created a fantasy about some other nonsense.

This just means you have no sufficient argument.

 

[Runningman]

This just means you have no sufficient argument.

I'll take my chances with the Father based on the Bible. You're free to do whatever you want.

 

[TibiasDad]

Then why was God already forgiving sins without sacrifices in the OT? Look it up before you ask me.

It’s not my job to look up the information for your questions. This said, Hebrews 9:22 says, “In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”

Doug

 

[Runningman]

It’s not my job to look up the information for your questions. This said, Hebrews 9:22 says, “In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”

Doug

It's absolutely your job to know the Bible at least. Don't minimize that. Here's one of many to get you started.

Leviticus 14
29And the rest of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall put upon the head of him that is to be cleansed, to make an atonement for him before the LORD.

 

[mikesw]

I'll take my chances with the Father based on the Bible. You're free to do whatever you want.

You sure are daring trusting your interpretation of the Bible, especially when you cannot convince anyone that you have a reasonable idea.