Praying to Jesus

TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY said:
This generation can be likened unto a class room whereupon a man stood to teach .
And as he taught his students
HE reminded them of the very question once asked .
Class , WHO Then can be saved . JESUS said with man this is impossible but not with GOD .
And so inclusive sally and her twin allie raise their hands and say we know , we know .
So the teacher says What does that mean .
ANd lil ally and her sister sally says , WELL it means that since JESUS came to pay the price of the sins of the world
EVERYONE IS SAVED even if they dont believe and deny HIM as the ONLY way to GOD .
to which the teacher says very good my inclusive twins .
WHO wants to offer up another opinoin says the teacher . and emergent billy bob says
It means it dont matter what we really do , and that no matter what we beleive or do , we can hold our rainbow high
it dont matter we are saved .
and the teacher says very good emergent billy .
And who else wants to give an answer ... to which islam frank says , OH I KNOW
it means no matter what we believe we still serve the same GOD if we jus love and thus we are saved
if we just love no matter if we believe or not .
VERY good says the teacher .
Then the teachers notices little fundie bible holder johnny sitting in the back room
of the class looking very worried and having tears flowing from HIS eyes .
THEN the teacher says , okay you pesky thing would you like to tell me why you have tears in your eyes .
I mean i know you fundie bible holders are haters and dont love anyone .SO why
are you crying and weeping so much .
TO which little johnny says .
What it means is that MAN cannot save himself , and GOD has chosen HOW to save man SO HE sent HIS SON to be the savoir of the world ,
HE provides the only way tobe saved . that we must believe in JESUS
and that JESUS dont hold rainbows or honor sins , HE frees us from sin .
TO WHICH THE CLASS AND TEACHER JUST ERUPT in laughter as they holler YOU HATING MONSTER . You hater , you are condemning
all other religoins . to which johnny says , ITs not i who condemn them , i remind them of the dire
need to repent and to beleive on JESUS THE CHRIST . if they reject HIM they condemn themselves .
TO which the class screams in rage , YOU hater , you monster , you piece of trash anti christ who dont know CHRIST or GOD OR LOVE
BUT On the day of the LORD , i tell us all its gonna be little johnny who is comforted
and that class and that teacher who do weep and mourn . BIBLE TIME FOLKS .
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HalleluYAH Brother

DO THIS NOW = DO NOT DELAY

Print this out by the thousands and start handing them out on the street and at churches

and Post it on EVERY Forum

Just DO NOT give out you location for they will come hunting for you
 
Runningman said:
Hebrews 5:7 says Jesus cried out and prayed to God for salvation from death. While it's true Jesus did die, he was saved from eternal death in Sheol by God. Yes I am saved as well.
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who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.

This scripture NEVER includes "His Soul suffering death"
AND it does not include AFTER He died on the Cross while His Flesh BODY was in the Grave/Tomb = GET IT
 
TomL said:
That is an absurd argument

Ignoring the fact the bible affirms that man as God

John 20:28–29 (NASB 2020) — 28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you now believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”





Um there is no rider at Rev 19:1

And you just keep ignoring the points of identification

Revelation 1:13–18 (KJV 1900) — 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Revelation 19:11–16 (KJV 1900) — 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Revelation 17:14 (KJV 1900) — 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.




So Jesus judges

Hello

Um there is no lord of hosts here

Revelation 19:11–16 (NASB 2020) — 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many crowns; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. 13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. 15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. 16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written: “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

the lamb wages war

Revelation 17:14 (NASB 2020) — 14 These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”

and its seems he has a host with him



God knows everything possible to know. Not everything is possible to know however if in fact the father did not know







We are in the book of revelation not Isaiah

Christ wears a robe

Revelation 1:13 (NASB 2020) — 13 and in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and wrapped around the chest with a golden sash.

Revelation 19:13 (NASB 2020) — 13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
Revelation 19:16 (NASB 2020) — 16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written: “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

The father is never stated to waer a robe nor is called the word

Let alone his onwn word







Jesus is clearly identified as the word in scripture

Never is the Father called the word of God

even less would he be called his own word




Except the passage identifies Christ



Revelation 1:12–18 (NASB 2020) — 12 Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me. And after turning I saw seven golden lampstands; 13 and in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and wrapped around the chest with a golden sash. 14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire. 15 His feet were like burnished bronze when it has been heated to a glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters. 16 In His right hand He held seven stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun shining in its strength. 17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, 18 and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.

Jesus not the Father, is the son of man

Jesus not the Father died in his humanity not the Father


Um there you go again denying scripture

Revelation 17:14 (NASB 2020) — 14 These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”

And the identification of the one with the Sword coming out of his mouth rebuts your winepress claim

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

The Holy Bible: King James Version (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version.; Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Re 19:15–16.
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Yet another revelation point of comparison

Revelation 19:11–16 (KJV 1900) — 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Guess who in revelation is stated to rule them with a rod of iron

Revelation 12:5 (KJV 1900) — 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


That should put the final nail in the coffin of your denial that this passage refers to Christ
 
Selah said:
@DavidTree, @TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

I don’t know where I got this. I found it in my study notes folder. But this is good stuff.

The Millennium: Fulfilment of God’s Covenants

The Millennium will be the fulfilment of all God’s covenants with Israel. In the Abrahamic covenant there were promises concerning the land and the blessing of the seed (Genesis 12.1-3, 6-7, 13.14-17, 15.1-21, 17.1-14, 22.15-18). The promises concerning Israel’s possession of, and inheritance in, the land are enlarged and confirmed in Deuteronomy 30.1-10. This is often called the Palestinian covenant. In the Davidic covenant there were promises concerning the royal house, kingdom and throne (2 Samuel 7.12-16, Psalm 89.3-4). Note the same key words occur in Luke 1.31-33 in relation to the Lord Jesus. All of these promises were unconditional and will be fulfilled during the Millennium.
A further covenant will also find fulfilment in the Millennium, namely the New covenant. This includes the forgiveness of sins, the giving of a new heart and the filling of the Spirit (Jeremiah 31.31-34, 32.35-39, Ezekiel 11.19-20, 37.26, Romans 11.27). Although this covenant was made with ‘the house of Israel’ and ‘the house of Judah’, believers today enjoy these blessings. Ezekiel 11.19-20: And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh: That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
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All of God's promises are conditional EXCEPT the Sending of His SON
We must believe His Word = Abraham believed the Lord and He credited to Abraham Righteousness

If we go back and look at the promises you will see God giving these promises on condition of following HIM into the Promised Land.

This is why the first generation DIED In the Wilderness Joshua and Caleb were the only Two from the first generation to enter the promised land.

Question: Moses was NOT permitted in - WHY?
 
DavidTree said:
HalleluYAH Brother

DO THIS NOW = DO NOT DELAY

Print this out by the thousands and start handing them out on the street and at churches

and Post it on EVERY Forum

Just DO NOT give out you location for they will come hunting for you
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Me and another sister have done that before . I have written things and she has had them printed out on her computer
and we do hand them out and some can even just mail them out and etc .
If you think we should i will get my sister to print this out on her computer and mail some to us .
We can get these handed out . leave them at parks
on church doors and etc . Its been done before my friend . I also go to the park
and every now and again me and this sister from the uk
I read the bible aloud by phone , to which she has it connected to her speakers
and she rides around the UK letting my voice be heard reading the bible .
As well as anyone in the park where i am at can hear me reading it as they walk by .
TIME is short david . Time is short and times are gonna get real bad against the true lambs too .
WE must do what we can now my friend .
 
DavidTree said:
who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.

This scripture NEVER includes "His Soul suffering death"
AND it does not include AFTER He died on the Cross while His Flesh BODY was in the Grave/Tomb = GET IT
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exactly . this cry was to see if the CUP of HIS sufferings COULD have passed from him .
But even then HE still said NEVER THE LESS YOUR WILL BE DONE and not mine .
Folks like to take things out of text my friend . but lambs know better .
 
TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY said:
Me and another sister have done that before . I have written things and she has had them printed out on her computer
and we do hand them out and some can even just mail them out and etc .
If you think we should i will get my sister to print this out on her computer and mail some to us .
We can get these handed out . leave them at parks
on church doors and etc . Its been done before my friend . I also go to the park
and every now and again me and this sister from the uk
I read the bible aloud by phone , to which she has it connected to her speakers
and she rides around the UK letting my voice be heard reading the bible .
As well as anyone in the park where i am at can hear me reading it as they walk by .
TIME is short david . Time is short and times are gonna get real bad against the true lambs too .
WE must do what we can now my friend .
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Brother,
God will use that post to HELP people to STOP and THINK

You are operating in His Gift inside you.
 
TomL said:
Yet another revelation point of comparison

Revelation 19:11–16 (KJV 1900) — 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Guess who in revelation is stated to rule them with a rod of iron

Revelation 12:5 (KJV 1900) — 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


That should put the final nail in the coffin of your denial that this passage refers to Christ
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and still another

Revelation 19:11–16 (KJV 1900) — 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Jesus is faithful and true

Revelation 3:14 (LEB) — 14 “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: “This is what the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the originator of God’s creation, says:
 
DavidTree said:
Have you submitted to the FATHER's Will which is in HEAVEN to be done on earth?

If YES = What did you do?
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For this is the will of the FATHER, that ye BELEIVE ON HIM WHO HE DID SEND . THAT RIGHT THERE MY FRIEND .
THE WILL OF GOD IS TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
Truth is those who BELIEVE NOT the testimony that GOD gave of CHRIST , calls GOD a BIG OL LIAR .
the all inclusive fake all religons doo doo false love can take THAT and put it in that peace pipe .
JESUS IS GETTING DENIED and its ends on my watch . THIS HARLOTS fake love one world religoin doo doo
cometh of man , NOT GOD , it cometh of the dark one and it leads only to perdition .
The WILL OF THE FATHER is , not that one beleives whatever junked out fake religon they want too .
And just do some lovey do works . No sir , that be of anti christ .
THE father , HIS WILL is to BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
truth is , WHO IS A LIAR , HE who DENIES THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST , as do every other religoin ,
he is what . what is he . what does john call such a man . ANTI CHRIST . so ever wonder why i dont heed the pope or scores of others
who try and get us to find common ground and sell lies like everones truth is equal , every religoins truth is no better than the other ones .
WHAT AN ANTI CHRIST LIE from DARKNESS and yet more and more jus sup this lie up .
EVER heard of a strong delusion to beleive a lie and be damned . MARVEL NOT that its at work right now .
 
DavidTree said:
All of God's promises are conditional EXCEPT the Sending of His SON
We must believe His Word = Abraham believed the Lord and He credited to Abraham Righteousness

If we go back and look at the promises you will see God giving these promises on condition of following HIM into the Promised Land.

This is why the first generation DIED In the Wilderness Joshua and Caleb were the only Two from the first generation to enter the promised land.

Question: Moses was NOT permitted in - WHY?
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take note , attention one and all , there are some IFS in that bible . I Suggest we beleive what follows those ifs
and actually beleive ALL things written .
IF ye continue in HIS goodness otherwise YE too shall be cut out .
IF YE KEEP in memory that which i have preached unto you , LEST ye have believed IN VAIN .
IF that which you have heard from the beginning shall remain in YOU , YOU shall continue in the FATHER and in THE SON
BE a whole lot more that can be delievered david . and i means a whole lot more .
FOLKS aint read they bibles and if they do , they read it through the lens of said scholar or teacher who TWISTS IT
to fit what THEY BELIEVE rather than what IT ACTUALLY SAYS .
IF a man BELIEVES IN ME
IF a man BELIEVES IN ME
SOUNDS conditional to me .
What must we do to be saved . A CONDITOIN .
BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
HOLD the faith in HIM FIRM TO THE END .
MANY other places this can be seen . many . HOW can ONE be saved . CONDITION . YE MUST BELIEVE ON HE WHOM
GOD THE FATHER DID SEND . and i didnt make that up , I REPEAT IT , BUT IT WAS NOT ME WHO FIRST said it .
IN fact i am gonna say something .
GO into the world my friends and preach the gospel to every creature
HE that believeth shall be saved but he who believes not shall be Damned .
Before the arrows of hatered come flying against me
KNOW THIS EVERYONE . WHILE I DO AGREE WITH THIS and I KNOW IT TO BE THE TRUTH .
I DIDNT SAY IT FIRST . JESUS DID . so haters , you hating ON JESUS who preached this reminder .
 
armour up . This final hour battle is coming down in full force .
And many will believe a lie and will be damned too .
They reject the love of the truth whereby they could be saved
and for this cause GOD gonna send a strong delusoin to believe a lie that they might be damned .
Folks , bess stop heeding these men that try and supplant the lie that other religoins serve the same GOD as we do .
Cause , well that is a lie . TIME to preach and remind all of the dire and absolutely necessary NEED to beleive on JESUS THE CHRIST .
and do remind them that JESUS IS not the minstir of sin . put the rainbows down folks and stop supporting sins
cause JESUS DONT SUPPORT SIN , HE came rather to set us free from sin .
It used to be taught a long time ago that our identity is HID in CHRIST . WE now identify with him and in him .
Rather odd that today
i see lots of christains that rather IDENTIFY WITH SIN , NOT CHRIST .
example . HOMOSEXUAL CHRISTAIN . that is called making your identity IN SIN and WITH SIN .
USED To be we were taught rather TO not let inquity once be named among us .
TODAY i see its name all the time . WE got prosperity christians , homosexual , transgender and etc .
A lamb DONT INDENTIFY WITH SIN , we actually even hate our own sin within our flesh .
I mean whats next , HEY i am a MURDERING CHRISTAIN . STOP allowing abominations and wicked pratices to take
over churches . STOP fearing these people who justify sin , RATHER rebuke them .
Hate not your neighbor in your heart , you shall in any way correct him and not allow sin upon him . DO KEEP THAT IN MIND folks .
 
DavidTree said:
If you never did the FATHER's Will on earth as it is in HEAVEN , then you are not saved.

Do you know what the FATHER's Will is???
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Lil bible holding johnny knows the answer . he be raising his hand . i do , by grace i do know the answer .
To which the inclusive teacher says , SHUT THINE MOUTH lil johhny we have had enough hate out of you .
Any guesses on what lil johnny was gonna say that was gonna TICK mr inclusvie off . THIS is the WILL of THE FATHER
that YE BELIEVE ON HE WHOM GOD DID SEND . bingo lil johnny . bingo .
 
I imagine that if a lot of folks had a REDO on the day of the LORD
you know what would i have done differently before i died .
They gonna think man , i wish i had heeded them fundametal bible holding JESUS BELEIVING CHRISTAINS about HAVING to believe ON JESUS THE CHRIST and that he were no ministir of sin .
BUT THERE WILL BE NO REDO on that day . TWO GROUPS people . TWO . either you sheep or a goat . and believe you me
no matter how much these minstirs of today try and omit and or air conditoin the lake of fire ,
OH ITS REAL . prepared for the devil and his angels , and all who LOVED A LIE and etc . oh its real .
BUT GOOD NEWS . BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and its , ETERNAL LIFE .
 
TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY said:
Lil bible holding johnny knows the answer . he be raising his hand . i do , by grace i do know the answer .
To which the inclusive teacher says , SHUT THINE MOUTH lil johhny we have had enough hate out of you .
Any guesses on what lil johnny was gonna say that was gonna TICK mr inclusvie off . THIS is the WILL of THE FATHER
that YE BELIEVE ON HE WHOM GOD DID SEND . bingo lil johnny . bingo .
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i have am still waiting on a response to that post
 
DavidTree said:
If you never did the FATHER's Will on earth as it is in HEAVEN , then you are not saved.

Do you know what the FATHER's Will is???
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John 6:40 (KJV 1900) — 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY said:
While i do love you . this is not at all true and not even close to it .
That was fullfilled WHEN CHRIST AROSE my friend and later the SPIRIT came upon the first apostels .
The promise of i will write my laws upon their hearts and in their minds . IS UPON the heart
of EVERY LAMB RIGHT NOW as we both speak . Fullfilled by and IN JESUS THE CHRIST , IN THE SPIRIT
by whom we now walk . What has not yet been done away is the fact we still walk in earthen bodies
and that flesh is still contrary . One day , and prayerfully very soon i might add , that too will be done away
and Death will be swallowed up in victory . BUT THE PROMISE of this in my heart and in their minds
WE GOT IT RIGHT NOW . lets learn to WALK IN IT AND BY IT . in other words LETS WALK BY THE SPIRIT
whereby the righteousness of the law would be fullfilled in us . HEED the SPIRIT and not the flesh my dear friend .
And no i dont think you are a devil or evil . You just misunderstood this is all . I KNOW false ones . believe me i examine
folks long before i just holler one is false . BUT believe me , there are many false ones amongst us . and that too is a fact .
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The “One day” you’re referring to is the Millennium, the Day of the Lord. On that Day, all things will be fulfilled. God says:

"I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely, For My anger has turned away from him. I will be like the dew to Israel; He shall grow like the lily, And lengthen his roots like Lebanon. His branches shall spread; His beauty shall be like an olive tree, And his fragrance like Lebanon. Those who dwell under his shadow shall return; They shall be revived like grain, And grow like a vine. Their scent shall be like the wine of Lebanon.

- Hosea 14:4-7

Selah
 
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TomL said:
John 6:40 (KJV 1900) — 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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jw, RCC and most will agree with this verse

There is one verse/passage that a jw and similar is told by their Controllers: "NEVER do that"

That one passage is the defining moment unto salvation.
AND even still, unless it comes from a heart of faith whom God is calling - it is just outward.
 

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