Do Catholics Pray to Mary?

[DavidTree]

It a teaching that some can't understand. We know she bore other children, so in that since she is not a virgin. But...

The perpetual virginity of Mary is a Christian doctrine that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a virgin "before, during and after" the birth of Christ. How long after? Till she had sex with her husband Joseph? That would be my deduction. But...

WE think of her and the virgin birth of Jesus. That's why she is called the Virgin Mary.

Mary being a virgin is 100% TRUTH = BEFORE she completed her wedding Vow with her husband Joseph.

Once Jesus was born, Joseph and Mary became "one flesh" as Commanded by God.

Now, if you can find a declaration of the Holy Spirit from the Gospel, the Apostles or Revelation, then you have a case to present.

Shalom to you @Donald in the Wonderful Name above all names = Lord Jesus Christ

 

[Donald]

Mary being a virgin is 100% TRUTH = BEFORE she completed her wedding Vow with her husband Joseph.

Once Jesus was born, Joseph and Mary became "one flesh" as Commanded by God.

Now, if you can find a declaration of the Holy Spirit from the Gospel, the Apostles or Revelation, then you have a case to present.

Shalom to you @Donald in the Wonderful Name above all names = Lord Jesus Christ

Wither I have a case or not, the Perpetual Virginity of Mary is not going away. But it's defiantly not a hill I would die on.

 

[DavidTree]

Wither I have a case or not, the Perpetual Virginity of Mary is not going away. But it's defiantly not a hill I would die on.

The "Perpetual Virginity of Mary" went away REAL FAST when Joseph and Mary did the 'HOOHA' together.

And JESUS answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Oh YEAH - alot of 'HOOHA'

 

[Donald]

The "Perpetual Virginity of Mary" went away REAL FAST when Joseph and Mary did the 'HOOHA' together.

Oh YEAH - alot of 'HOOHA'

Yes, that's the way human logic looks at it. And yet it is still taught today.

 

[DavidTree]

Yes, that's the way human logic looks at it. And yet it is still taught today.

And JESUS answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

God joined Joseph and Mary in Holy Matrimony

Why are seeking to disobey God???

 

[Donald]

And JESUS answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

God joined Joseph and Mary in Holy Matrimony

Why are seeking to disobey God???

Back up bud, no one is seeking to disobey God.

 

[DavidTree]

Back up bud, no one is seeking to disobey God.

You do when you seek to separate the Holy Matrimony between Joseph and Mary by making a false claim = perpetual virgin

Have you ever read this from the Apostle John = "no lie is of the Truth"

 

[Donald]

You do when you seek to separate the Holy Matrimony between Joseph and Mary by making a false claim = perpetual virgin

Have you ever read this from the Apostle John = "no lie is of the Truth"

To you it's a false claim. But who are you? If you think anything I type into a web Forum would have an effect on on the marriage of Mary and Joseph is my goal you need to rethink that.

"no lie is of the Truth" Man you need a degree in Law to figure that out. Deep I tell ya.

Please do not reply to any of my post from now on. As per the rules.

2g-If a member requests the cessation of all personal contact, then please respect that member's wish.

 

[John Paul]

This is good

 

[Donald]

This is good

It was good but to short. I didn't watch part 2 yet.

My take on praying to Mary is the belief held by most in the catholic faith.

That Mary has a special relationship with Jesus and can advocate for us. Also Jesus has given us His Blessed Mother as our great spiritual mother, a heavenly advocate and who intercedes for us.

17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
Revelation 12:17

Because Mary is the Mother of God we should not be surprised that she is our preeminent intercessor.

 

[John Paul]

I haven't watched part 2 either. But I will

 

[DavidTree]

It's BEST to believe God at His Word so that one does not fall into Judgment

God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle—I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying—a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
1 Timothy 2:4

 

[Duane]

I haven't watched part 2 either. But I will

Do Catholics Pray to Mary? Good ones do. I just watched the video and I'm not sure I understand this whole Idea. In 45 years of being a Christian I have never really given Mary much thought other then being the mother of Jesus. I plan to learn more about this.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Try reading up on Mariology.

Personally I HAVE NO APPETITE for "Religious Fiction".

There's no argument about the miraculous nature of the nativity, or the REAL Mary's submission to and cooperation with God in the production of His Only Begotten Son.

Where the problem comes in is the illegitimate elevation, and FALSE promotion of the Roman Catholic "Mary thing" as something infinitely MORE THAN the REAL Mary, mother of Jesus actually - even reinforced by demonic phantasms of the Catholic "Mary thing" and her heretical and totally PHONY "powers" over her Son, and even totally satanic claims of her/it "Protecting us AGAINST Jesus"!!!! TOTAL BLASPHEMY and denigration of Jesus, and God's characters!!!!

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Why do we Protestants REFUSE to acknowledge that Mary was a very special person?

WE DON'T!!!!

Protestants give the REAL Mary, mother of Jesus the full and proper respect, and admiration that she fully deserves!!!

What we refuse to acknowledge are the totally fictitious, satanic, and BLASPHEMOUS claims about the "CATHOLIC MARY THING" and her supposed intercessory functions - even including to "Protecting us" against Jesus' judgementalism!!!!

 

[Verily]

Personally I HAVE NO APPETITE for "Religious Fiction".

There's no argument about the miraculous nature of the nativity, or the REAL Mary's submission to and cooperation with God in the production of His Only Begotten Son.

Where the problem comes in is the illegitimate elevation, and FALSE promotion of the Roman Catholic "Mary thing" as something infinitely MORE THAN the REAL Mary, mother of Jesus actually - even reinforced by demonic phantasms of the Catholic "Mary thing" and her heretical and totally PHONY "powers" over her Son, and even totally satanic claims of her/it "Protecting us AGAINST Jesus"!!!! TOTAL BLASPHEMY and denigration of Jesus, and God's characters!!!!

Well that settles that, straight form the horses mouth.

 

[Verily]

Funny Bob.

In the early church...when Mary was being proclaimed as a holy person, beyond what we understand to be holy today....
believers were going to their death...martyrdom...for being Christ believers.

Do you think the church was involved in getting a lot of money AT THAT TIME?
(it did happen hundreds of years later).

Why do we Protestants REFUSE to acknowledge that Mary was a very special person?

We seem to love Abraham enough.
Mary carried the Savior in her bossom...
does she not deserve the same love and honor as we give to Abraham?

This seems very wrong to me.

YOU have a mother.
Is she just another woman?
How much more the mother of Jesus?

They may have hang ups.

When Your Mother Didn't Love You​

The unloving mother is more common than you think.​

When Your Mother Didn't Love You

In her latest book, Peg Streep explodes the myth that mothers always love their children.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[GodsGrace]

WE DON'T!!!!

Protestants give the REAL Mary, mother of Jesus the full and proper respect, and admiration that she fully deserves!!!

What we refuse to acknowledge are the totally fictitious, satanic, and BLASPHEMOUS claims about the "CATHOLIC MARY THING" and her supposed intercessory functions - even including to "Protecting us" against Jesus' judgementalism!!!!

I don't see it Bob.
Some do....most don't.
In teaching about incorrect Catholic doctrine...
as a result, Mary is diminished.

The CC teaches that she could protect us from the judgement of Jesus?

How do you know of this?
Anything you could post?

 

[GodsGrace]

They may have hang ups.

When Your Mother Didn't Love You​

The unloving mother is more common than you think.​

When Your Mother Didn't Love You

In her latest book, Peg Streep explodes the myth that mothers always love their children.

www.psychologytoday.com

No wonder not too many babies are born nowadays.

Maybe women read books like this??

Being sarcastic, of course.

 

[Ahar]

No wonder not too many babies are born nowadays.

Maybe women read books like this??

Being sarcastic, of course.

Reminds me of that old saying "Mom always liked you best."