Praying to Jesus

Oh my goodness, you won't answer either. OK, I will answer my own simple questions first, then I will reply to your post concerning IS. 1 which is a very revealing chapter defining the problems with this world's religions.

"after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts".

So how did men receive God's Law "in the First Covenant", according to Scriptures?"

The answer: Heb. 7: 11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

So this is true, Yes? You believe these words, Yes? So before "After those days", before the New Prophesied Priest of God should come, men received God's Word from the Levite Priests, through the Levitical Priesthood "after the order of Aaron", who had exclusive possession of the Oracles of God. Do you believe this?

But, according to Scriptures, this priesthood covenant became problematic, as it is written.

Mal. 2: 7 For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is "the messenger of the LORD" of hosts.

8 But ye are departed out of the way; "ye have caused many to stumble at the law"; ye have corrupted "the covenant of Levi", saith the LORD of hosts. 9 Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.

So what did God promise?

Heb. 8: 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

8 For finding fault "with them", (Corrupt Priests who were teaching for doctrines the commandments of men, and not God) he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

The Priesthood was changed, we all have the Oracles of God in our own homes now, in our own hearts. No longer do we "Receive God's Laws" through the Levitical Priesthood, or any earthly religion. We now have, as promised, access to His Oracles directly.

Isn't this truth?

And the next question.

"For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

And how was forgiveness of Sins provided for in the First covenant, according to Scriptures?

The answer: Lev. 4: 27 And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; 28 Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned.

29 And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering "in the place" of the burnt offering.

30 And the (Levite) priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar. 31 And he (Levite Priest) shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat is taken away from off the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the (Levite) priest shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour unto the LORD; and the (Levite) priest shall make an atonement for him, "and it shall be forgiven him".

This is true according to Scriptures, Yes? You believe these words, Yes? So before "After those days", before the New Prophesied Priest of God should come, men received forgiveness of sins through the Levite Priests, through the Levitical Priesthood sacrifices and burnt offerings for sin, "after the order of Aaron", who had exclusive possession of the Temple and the Alter and the Oracles of God. But, according to Scriptures, this priesthood covenant was only temporary, as it is written.

Heb. 10: 1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, "but a body hast thou prepared me":

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, (Priesthood Covenant) that he may establish the second. (Priesthood Covenant)

So the 2 things that changed in God's definition of His Own New Covenant, are:

#1. The manner in which men receive God's Laws.

#2. The manner in which sins are forgiven.

But even though the Scriptures clearly show this, this isn't what is taught by this world's religions, Is it?

This is why many have to dance around the answer to this question, because the true answer brings questions to the teaching that Jesus came to abolish or "nail to His Cross", the very Laws God said HE would write on the hearts of His People.

This is why, in my view, the questions I asked concerning God's own definition of His Own New covenant are so important to seek the answer to. After all, we are warned about the "many" deceivers who come in Christ's Name.

I hope you will consider what is written on the topic.
on the surface level this actually is the truth . But beware that this is not used to try and twist something else .
however what i read here appears to be true .
 
Yes Brother, the wolves in sheeps clothing are EVERYWHERE = they are not limited to the RCC but are in every denomination of man.
David study man brought something . I have no idea who he is or what he teaches .
I do know that men can often bring truths and yet later use said truths to imply a lie .
However i did read what he left in a long letter and thus far that would be true .
But you know him far better than i do . Have you seen him using truth to support lies . I honestly do not know him .
 
Have you ever heard the expression the devil wears prada .
What most folks dont realize is that he and his men can wear WOOL .
That they fail to beleive can happen . But david , IT DO HAPPEN and it happens a lot too .
Remember this saying .
LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar . EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH . folks we need to learn them scrips very well .
As you already know this my friend . But to repeat this message , this reminder is a good thing .
ALWAYS keep this at the Forefront of your mind = satan knows scripture better then man AND he know show to make twists and turns.

BEWARE the men who post scripture but then add just a little twist of sour lemon to make a splash in you rdrink!
 
Yes and amen Scripture is accurate. So does "After He was raised from the dead,"sound like Jesus raised himself from the dead to you?
sure does . HE said he has the power to lay it down and to raise it up again .
SO yeah , it sure do .
Just cause after the fact he was raised from the dead many seen him or etc
DONT contradict the fact HE said I have power to lay it down and to raise it up again .
It almost seems like you are grasping at straws in a whirlwind
when you should be seeker shelter from said whirlwind .
IN other words stop trying to find things you THINK support your view
when in truth its real simple . IF JESUS SAID IT , well JUST BELIEVE IT . sure one might not understand it
BUT ONE SHOULD SURELY BELIEVE IT . start with that mindset .
 
David study man brought something . I have no idea who he is or what he teaches .
I do know that men can often bring truths and yet later use said truths to imply a lie .
However i did read what he left in a long letter and thus far that would be true .
But you know him far better than i do . Have you seen him using truth to support lies . I honestly do not know him .
There are members on here who do not believe ALL that God has spoken.

If you read @Studyman response to the scriptures i post, you will see = look at yesterdays.
 
Good Morning

PLEASE read scripture carefully and BELIEVE what is written = God said the old covenant BEGAN on Passover in Egypt

ABC's of TRUTH

“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when:
A - I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
B - not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
C - in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt,
D - Don't forget this: My covenant which they broke, = D stands for Death

Passover took place the day before HE brought them out of Egypt. It's in your own Bible. So even by your faulty logic, Passover was not the Covenant God made with Israel "In the Day" that HE brought them out of Egypt.

Here is what the Bible says about the "First Covenant" that God promised to change. Please carefully read and then "Believe" what is written.

Heb. 9: 1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.

3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;

4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.

6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing "the service of God".

7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:

8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all "was not yet made manifest", while as "the first tabernacle" was yet standing:

Hebrews 7-10 speaks exclusively about the Covenant God promised to change, the Priesthood. Passover was not mentioned even once, because it has nothing to do with the Levitical Priesthood. This is because it wasn't part of the Covenant that became old and was ready to vanish..

But will you believe what is written and be corrected, or will you continue to justify your adopted religion, in spite of Scriptures?
 
ALWAYS keep this at the Forefront of your mind = satan knows scripture better then man AND he know show to make twists and turns.

BEWARE the men who post scripture but then add just a little twist of sour lemon to make a splash in you rdrink!
I agree david . this is why i do ask . I , as you , as we should , do not trust in man but rather in GOD .
because correct you are my freind . People can quoate truth and yet
and yet ......................
they gonna splash stuff in that , well ITS NOT TRUTH . What specifically have you SEEN
him imply or say that is contrary to the TRUTH . I will try and help.
 
Passover took place the day before HE brought them out of Egypt. It's in your own Bible. So even by your faulty logic, Passover was not the Covenant God made with Israel "In the Day" that HE brought them out of Egypt.
RETURN to God's EXACT words = "In the day I took them"

“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when:
A - I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
B - not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
C - in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt,


D - Don't forget this: My covenant which they broke, = D stands for Death
 
There are members on here who do not believe ALL that God has spoken.

If you read @Studyman response to the scriptures i post, you will see = look at yesterdays.
Where is it . because you are spot on right about something . MOST do not BELIEVE ALL THINGS JESUS TAUGHT
but can cut copy and paste stuff .
All i can say is if one believeth the pick and choose of what he says mindset , they are in deadly and grave danger
and are being led astray . IT can easily be seen too . what post was it .
 
I agree david . this is why i do ask . I , as you , as we should , do not trust in man but rather in GOD .
because correct you are my freind . People can quoate truth and yet
and yet ......................
they gonna splash stuff in that , well ITS NOT TRUTH . What specifically have you SEEN
him imply or say that is contrary to the TRUTH . I will try and help.
Look at Posts 386 and 388
 
Passover took place the day before HE brought them out of Egypt. It's in your own Bible. So even by your faulty logic, Passover was not the Covenant God made with Israel "In the Day" that HE brought them out of Egypt.

Here is what the Bible says about the "First Covenant" that God promised to change. Please carefully read and then "Believe" what is written.

Heb. 9: 1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.

3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;

4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.

6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing "the service of God".

7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:

8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all "was not yet made manifest", while as "the first tabernacle" was yet standing:

Hebrews 7-10 speaks exclusively about the Covenant God promised to change, the Priesthood. Passover was not mentioned even once, because it has nothing to do with the Levitical Priesthood. This is because it wasn't part of the Covenant that became old and was ready to vanish..

But will you believe what is written and be corrected, or will you continue to justify your adopted religion, in spite of Scriptures?
The true desire of GOD was always OBEDIANCE .
actually look again my friend . Passover was part of that covenant . ye shall keep it .
Now as far as the blood of bulls and of goats , GOD has far more desire in OBEDIANCE .
Did i speak to you of the blood of bulls and of goats . HE TOLD THEM OBEY ME . see . it was to OBEY HIM .
which includes the keeping of passover as it do with any thing else HE said .
 
Passover took place the day before HE brought them out of Egypt. It's in your own Bible. So even by your faulty logic, Passover was not the Covenant God made with Israel "In the Day" that HE brought them out of Egypt.
RETURN to God's EXACT words = "In the day
Jeremiah 30:24 "The fierce anger of the Lord shall not return, until He have done it, and until He have performed the intents of His heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it."
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We are living in the "Latter Days" now = TODAY

Acts ch2

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only [e]the third hour of the day.
16But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.
19I will show wonders in heaven above
And signs in the earth beneath:
Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
21And it shall come to pass
That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.’
 
on the surface level this actually is the truth . But beware that this is not used to try and twist something else .
however what i read here appears to be true .

What is important is the Scriptures, in my view. And it isn't always easy trusting them "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" in the world God has placed us in with so many religious philosophies, doctrines and traditions of men. And HE does warn us about them, and they will be used to try the Faith of those who place their faith in Him.

I am here, not seeking to justify the philosophies of one or more of this world's religious sects or businesses. I am here to post, examine and discuss what is actually written. Something I am passionate about even, or as I should say, especially if what is written exposes a darkness in me.

Thanks for the reply.
 
RETURN to God's EXACT words = "In the day

We are living in the "Latter Days" now = TODAY

Acts ch2

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only [e]the third hour of the day.
16But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.
19I will show wonders in heaven above
And signs in the earth beneath:
Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
21And it shall come to pass
That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.’
Take note that says whoever CALLS upon the NAME of the LORD shall be saved .
CALLS upon THE NAME of the LORD shall be saved .
I have manifest thy name unto them . A man can cry to GOD all day long
but if that man denies THE CHRIST of GOD , that man WONT BE SAVED .
I have given them YOUR NAME . Phillilp , oh phillip ,
what had phillip asked and what did JESUS answer back to him . Shew us the father
Phillip , HOW long have i been with you and yet you have not known me . HE who has seen ME has SEEN THE FATHER .
WHO so ever calls upon GOD and denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST , Will hear but one thing
OH , I NEVER KNEW YOU ye who worked inquity .
Who so ever CALLS on the NAME of the LORD shall be saved . take note that didnt say budda , allah or any other religoin .
And if even a jew denies THE CHRIST , they have DENIED GOD . this is a fact the church had better relearn and fast .
Ecumincialism and very crafity men have led this people astray .
TELL me this . IF WE DENY JESUS , DO YOU THINK that means OH WE DID NOT DENY GOD .
WHO here can say that . i sure cant . IF WE DENY JESUS , WE DO DENY GOD . so its gospel time again in the house .
 
David study man brought something . I have no idea who he is or what he teaches .
I do know that men can often bring truths and yet later use said truths to imply a lie .
However i did read what he left in a long letter and thus far that would be true .
But you know him far better than i do . Have you seen him using truth to support lies . I honestly do not know him .
Here is the answer to your question:

Studyman says: Hebrews 7-10 speaks exclusively about the Covenant God promised to change, the Priesthood. Passover was not mentioned even once, because it has nothing to do with the Levitical Priesthood. This is because it wasn't part of the Covenant that became old and was ready to vanish..
Passover is the MOST integral part of the old covenant and is COMMANDED in the Levitical preisthood.
 
Take note that says whoever CALLS upon the NAME of the LORD shall be saved .
CALLS upon THE NAME of the LORD shall be saved .
I have manifest thy name unto them . A man can cry to GOD all day long
but if that man denies THE CHRIST of GOD , that man WONT BE SAVED .
I have given them YOUR NAME . Phillilp , oh phillip ,
what had phillip asked and what did JESUS answer back to him . Shew us the father
Phillip , HOW long have i been with you and yet you have not known me . HE who has seen ME has SEEN THE FATHER .
WHO so ever calls upon GOD and denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST , Will hear but one thing
OH , I NEVER KNEW YOU ye who worked inquity .
Who so ever CALLS on the NAME of the LORD shall be saved . take note that didnt say budda , allah or any other religoin .
And if even a jew denies THE CHRIST , they have DENIED GOD . this is a fact the church had better relearn and fast .
Ecumincialism and very crafity men have led this people astray .
TELL me this . IF WE DENY JESUS , DO YOU THINK that means OH WE DID NOT DENY GOD .
WHO here can say that . i sure cant . IF WE DENY JESUS , WE DO DENY GOD . so its gospel time again in the house .
JESUS prayed: FATHER, I have given them YOUR Name

at the Name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 
Take note that says whoever CALLS upon the NAME of the LORD shall be saved .
CALLS upon THE NAME of the LORD shall be saved .
I have manifest thy name unto them . A man can cry to GOD all day long
but if that man denies THE CHRIST of GOD , that man WONT BE SAVED .
I have given them YOUR NAME . Phillilp , oh phillip ,
what had phillip asked and what did JESUS answer back to him . Shew us the father
Phillip , HOW long have i been with you and yet you have not known me . HE who has seen ME has SEEN THE FATHER .
WHO so ever calls upon GOD and denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST , Will hear but one thing
OH , I NEVER KNEW YOU ye who worked inquity .
Who so ever CALLS on the NAME of the LORD shall be saved . take note that didnt say budda , allah or any other religoin .
And if even a jew denies THE CHRIST , they have DENIED GOD . this is a fact the church had better relearn and fast .
Ecumincialism and very crafity men have led this people astray .
TELL me this . IF WE DENY JESUS , DO YOU THINK that means OH WE DID NOT DENY GOD .
WHO here can say that . i sure cant . IF WE DENY JESUS , WE DO DENY GOD . so its gospel time again in the house .
Post 395 has been updated
 
The true desire of GOD was always OBEDIANCE .
actually look again my friend . Passover was part of that covenant . ye shall keep it .
Now as far as the blood of bulls and of goats , GOD has far more desire in OBEDIANCE .
Did i speak to you of the blood of bulls and of goats . HE TOLD THEM OBEY ME . see . it was to OBEY HIM .
which includes the keeping of passover as it do with any thing else HE said .

This is true, Passover is a Covenant. But it wasn't part of the Temporary Priesthood Covenant God made with Levi on behalf of Israel, through which Israel received God's Laws, and though which Israel received atonement of sins. A Priesthood covenant which became old and was ready to vanish "After those days", which I understand to mean, "After the Prophesied Priest "After the Order of Melchizedek" should come.

I agree 100% with you regarding the importance of a man "Yielding himself" a servant to obey God.
 
What is important is the Scriptures, in my view. And it isn't always easy trusting them "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" in the world God has placed us in with so many religious philosophies, doctrines and traditions of men. And HE does warn us about them, and they will be used to try the Faith of those who place their faith in Him.

I am here, not seeking to justify the philosophies of one or more of this world's religious sects or businesses. I am here to post, examine and discuss what is actually written. Something I am passionate about even, or as I should say, especially if what is written exposes a darkness in me.

Thanks for the reply.
Passover is the MOST integral part of the old covenant and is COMMANDED in the Levitical preisthood.


Now the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying, 2“This month shall be your beginning of months; it shall be the first month of the year to you. 3Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying: ‘On the tenth of this month every man shall take for himself a lamb, according to the house of his father, a lamb for a household. 4And if the household is too small for the lamb, let him and his neighbor next to his house take it according to the number of the persons; according to each man’s need you shall make your count for the lamb. 5Your lamb shall be without[a] blemish, a male of the first year. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats. 6Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight. 7And they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat it. 8Then they shall eat the flesh on that night; roasted in fire, with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. 9Do not eat it raw, nor boiled at all with water, but roasted in fire—its head with its legs and its entrails. 10You shall let none of it remain until morning, and what remains of it until morning you shall burn with fire. 11And thus you shall eat it: [c]with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the Lord’s Passover.
 
RETURN to God's EXACT words = "In the day

We are living in the "Latter Days" now = TODAY

Acts ch2

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only [e]the third hour of the day.
16But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

17And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.
19I will show wonders in heaven above
And signs in the earth beneath:
Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
21And it shall come to pass
That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.’
What does GOD desire . OBEDIANCE .
What did GOD the FATHER tell them on that moutain .
THIS is my well beloved SON , HEAR HIM . HEAR HIIM .
HEAR HIM .
i suggest we do and never let those who Follow false religons
even the jews who do have torah , believe there is no need to have BELEIVED on HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
cause the last time i checked
JESUS sure didnt seem to give those who DENIED HIM a pass . He said things like
ITS GONNA BE WORSE For you on the day of judgemnt that EVER it was for SODOM .
He who denies ME , HE who rejects ME , REJECTS HE WHO SENT ME .
HE who is of GOD hears us , HE who is NOT of GOD does not Hear us .
SO dont buy what the pope and a heap of the protestant realm is trying to sell .
cause what ryhmes with sell . THEY SELL A LIE
unto this people and they call it Love . but what ryhmes with sell .
IS the place whereunto that lies shall surely lead them . sell , hell
THERE Is no escape for those who deny JESUS is the CHRIST
for those who try and make him into the minstir of sin .
Cause JESUS is not the minstir of sin , the jesus they try and sell this people IS
but that is why i didnt capitilize that jesus . cause IT AINT JESUS THE CHRIST .
 
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