I am not equating "one human nature to one God person (or Being)". That's you changing my words into strawman words so that you can gleefully burn them up. I suggest you read exactly what I wrote so that your production of strawmen can cease.
Is Jesus God?
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John 1 is where most of the "Jesus is God" marbles are. The proper English translation for the Greek word "Logos" (λογος) is Word. The Greek word for Voice is "Fone" (φωνη) which is nowhere found in John 1:1. The Voice translators are either Greek illiterates or they possess an agenda alien to the Bible.
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There are many instances of Theophanies throughout the OT and this is one of them.
Hosanna
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Who is Jesus? He's my King!
“Behold, the [a]virgin shall be with child and give birth to a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel”—which, when translated, means, “God with us.” Matthew 1:23
One of the things that sets Christianity apart from other word religion is that it's based on the remarkable person of Jesus Christ and his dual nature. He is both the Son of God and the Son of man. He was, is, and always will be God. An answer to the question in the title of this thread, He is absolutely God. He is God in His Essence, his nature, and his eternal being. He is fully God, and he is God in every way.
But when the Holy Spirit overshadowed the Virgin Mary, God entered into the human family. When Jesus was born in Bethlehem, He was named Emmanuel, "God with us."
The sacrifice that was made for us in His becoming a man is beyond our comprehension. Think about it for a minute the creator of the universe leading the glory of heaven to be born in a manger to working class parents. The latest side of wonders of Glory to enter this world filled Would send in hate and discontent to redeem unworthy human beings from our sins. See what I'm saying, that kind of love It's hard for us to fully grasp. we do know that Jesus became one of us so that he could understand our weakness and sorrows So he will forever be the God man.
Even if we can never fully understand it this side of eternity we do know this:
If Jesus would do this for us, he must love us very much
“Behold, the [a]virgin shall be with child and give birth to a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel”—which, when translated, means, “God with us.” Matthew 1:23
One of the things that sets Christianity apart from other word religion is that it's based on the remarkable person of Jesus Christ and his dual nature. He is both the Son of God and the Son of man. He was, is, and always will be God. An answer to the question in the title of this thread, He is absolutely God. He is God in His Essence, his nature, and his eternal being. He is fully God, and he is God in every way.
But when the Holy Spirit overshadowed the Virgin Mary, God entered into the human family. When Jesus was born in Bethlehem, He was named Emmanuel, "God with us."
The sacrifice that was made for us in His becoming a man is beyond our comprehension. Think about it for a minute the creator of the universe leading the glory of heaven to be born in a manger to working class parents. The latest side of wonders of Glory to enter this world filled Would send in hate and discontent to redeem unworthy human beings from our sins. See what I'm saying, that kind of love It's hard for us to fully grasp. we do know that Jesus became one of us so that he could understand our weakness and sorrows So he will forever be the God man.
Even if we can never fully understand it this side of eternity we do know this:
If Jesus would do this for us, he must love us very much
Wrangler
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You gotta be kidding me!
Obviously, you don’t know what explicit is. They did not know how he, less than 50, could be alive when Abraham was. Also, how he could rebuild the temple in 3 days. Since you rely on their understanding, to be intellectually consistent, you must reject Jesus doing either of these things.
I suspect you’ll demonstrate how your reliance on the Pharisees understanding changes with the circumstances.
Wrangler
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Using a big word does not address the question at all.
It's very telling that you can't be bothered to learn a word that Theologians have used for 2000+ years to explain the event we're talking about.
How would you explain that declaration of Christ? Let's see who's side you're on. Are you a Christ believer or a Pharisaic doubter?
Bob Carabbio
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John 20:17, Rev 3:12--- 2Cor 1:3, Eph 1:3,17, Col 1:3--1Pet 1:3--Jesus and his real teachers on earth didn't know it.
The Pharisees, who should have known better, refused to believe it.
Aeliana
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Can He heal the sick and raise the dead?
The Israelite spiritual teachers were apostatized when Jesus came. They didn't even recognize their own messiah even though the prophecy's showed him turning upright about when he did. Jesus told them their Father was the devil. He told them off at Matt 23--They were liars about Jesus. They hated him, hate filled hearts do not speak truth.
Wrangler
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You repeat this after what I wrote demonstrating they have different natures! Wow! You are as brain washed as it gets.
Wrangler
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I've already explained it multiple times. Being old does not mean one is the Creator of the created, the begetter of the begotten.
There is only one God, the Father. The Bible tells me so. Why do you insist on violating the 1C?
Wrangler
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From today's devotional reading:
Profound. The mental gymnastics Trinitarians gyrate to escape explicit Scripture is mouth dropping. Trinitarians have no rejection criteria and cannot formulate what set of words would disqualify 3-is-1-ism.
Jesus is not God. YHWH is God and there is no one else. This is Biblical. This is the word of God.
You will know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am Yahweh your God, and there is no one else.
Joel 2:27
Profound. The mental gymnastics Trinitarians gyrate to escape explicit Scripture is mouth dropping. Trinitarians have no rejection criteria and cannot formulate what set of words would disqualify 3-is-1-ism.
Jesus is not God. YHWH is God and there is no one else. This is Biblical. This is the word of God.
They have the same God nature. You continue to project your brainwashed state of affairs.
I wasn't talking about Christ's human nature.
Already answered. They were slowly coming around to understanding the full story of Christ's Divinity. Nevertheless, Christ did declare himself as the OT God to the Pharisees. You refuse to acknowledge that fact.
You continue to evade the fact that Christ did declare himself as the OT God to the Pharisees.
