Who is the creator

Is 44:24=Jehovah, your redeemer, i Jehovah. is correct translation.--myself= the only one with the power and wisdom to create anything.
Correct, and when he came in ... "FLESH" .... "Lord" he is that same creator. scripture, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" notice the verses said, equal ... "WITH" .... and not equal ... "TO" ... which would indicate another separate and distinct PERSON. but it do not say that. it says equal "WITH" indicating the same ONE PERSON, but in an ECHAD of himself. supportive scripture, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." the LORD, I, One person. he said "I, I, I am he. again one person, now this,
Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." again, I, I, I, one person is "ALSO". and also means in addition to. see it now? "WITH" indicate God is the ECHAD of himself, or the EQUAL SHARE of his OWN-SELF. meaning he is the EQUAL SHARE of himself in flesh. or as the bible sys, the "DIVERSITY" of his own self in flesh... as the OFFSPRING or the Son of God.

101G.
 
GINOLJC, to all.
sure, Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," this confirms Genesis 1:27 ..... right after Genesis 1:26.
he, is a single person, and the he is God. because our brother Mark confirms this. Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." Mark recorded the same conversation. this is why we have four Gospels to confirm the other. if you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. because common reasoning .... knowing this, allow one to return to Genesis 1:26 to find out why the designations "US" and "OUR" was used.

hope this help.

101G
Nope, that doesn't help. At least it doesn't help in the way you want it to help.
 
It was a SCATHING criticism of the anti-trinitarian denial of Biblical truth … but after writing it, it seemed less appropriate for the “JW” section of the site. It is one thing when a fight finds you, and another thing to go into their house and start a fight. ;)
It is one thing when a fight finds you, and another thing to go into their house and start a fight
JESUS went into satan's house and kicked his u-no-watt
 
Nope, that doesn't help. At least it doesn't help in the way you want it to help.
what 101G wants is not on the table.... what is on the table is you not believing the word of God......

101G.
 
@Jim
understand 101G believes what the Lord Jesus, God almighty says. 101G is a diversified oneness, meaning God a plurality of himself..... and no one else.

this term, "DIVERSITY" is in the bible. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." this term "OFFSPRING" is the Greek word,
G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man), diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
Root(s): G1096

also this "diversity" is expressed in the OT as the above definition states, "kin". scripture, Zechariah 13:7 "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones." this man that is God's FELLOW is The Lord Jesus himself. for the term "FELLOW" is the Hebrew word:
H5997 עָמִית `amiyth (aw-meeth') n-m.
1. companionship.
2. (hence, concretely) a comrade or kindred man.
[from a primitive root meaning to associate]
KJV: another, fellow, neighbour.
kindred.....man? who is concrete? meaning in flesh? YES. the Lord Jesus, .... "another" of himself in flesh...... this is just too easy not to understand. but 101G can only lead one to the water of LIFE, but they can only die of thirst on their on because of ...... unbelief.

101G
 
So is Jesus divine? If so, what does that mean to you?
The million dollar question …

that if thou mayest confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and mayest believe in thy heart that God did raise him out of the dead, thou shalt be saved, for with the heart doth [one] believe to righteousness, and with the mouth is confession made to salvation;” - Romans 10:9-10 [YLT]

… upon whose answer hangs “salvation”.
 
@Jim
understand 101G believes what the Lord Jesus, God almighty says.
@101G

Understand that is such an egocentric narcissistic statement. It means, of course, that anyone who disagrees with your absurd view of things doesn't believe what God says.

Understand that leads me to pretty much disregard most of what you have to say.
 
The million dollar question …

that if thou mayest confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and mayest believe in thy heart that God did raise him out of the dead, thou shalt be saved, for with the heart doth [one] believe to righteousness, and with the mouth is confession made to salvation;” - Romans 10:9-10 [YLT]

… upon whose answer hangs “salvation”.
GREAT, agreed, for 1 John 5:20 "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life."

101G.
 
@101G

Understand that is such an egocentric narcissistic statement. It means, of course, that anyone who disagrees with your absurd view of things doesn't believe what God says.

Understand that leads me to pretty much disregard most of what you have to say.
Fine...... lol, (smile). 😇

101G.
 

No exceptions meaning everything created​

Was done by Him and for Him. This includes the angels which Christ created and whom also worship Him now in heaven(see Rev 5).

Col 1:16-17
For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities — all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

We see above that creation of all things(panta- no exceptions and is all inclusive) were made by Him and solely for Him. They were created for His good pleasure. And without Him nothing was made that was made(see John 1:1-3).

Also since we see He is before all things created then logic and reason dictates that He is Eternal and not part of any creation. He is distinct and separate from created as the Creator.

Here we see that Paul completely exhausts the creation categories:

1)all things created
2)things in heaven
3)things in the earth
4) things visible
5)things invisible
6)thrones,dominions,rulers,authorities
7)the above mentioned things rule out any exceptions

Now we also see from the Apostle Paul that He(Christ) is BEFORE all things and that all things in Him subsist or are held together.

Now tell me Who other than the Almighty God known as YHWH is before all things, created all things and holds the very universe together?

The answer none but God. And Paul tells us in the context that Jesus is the very image of the invisible God. He made the unknown known, the invisible God became visible in the flesh. This is the Incarnation where we see in Christ God was manifest in the flesh. God became man as John's prologue so eloquently spells out in verses 1-18.

So can you like the Author of Hebrews, Paul, Thomas, Peter and John confess Jesus is your God, your Creator?

Angels were created as per Colossians 1:16-17 below who are the created angels , the principalities and powers with rank and order below. And we know only God created them and has the power over them. And Christ is God, their Creator who rules over them.

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Ephesians 1:20-21
which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

Ephesians 3:10
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The angels are His to command.

Matt 13:41
41
"The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,

Matt 24:30-31
30
"And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31"And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Matt 25:31-33
31
"But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32"All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.

2 Thess 1:7
when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire,

1 Tim 5:21
I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in a spirit of partiality.

Heb 1:6
He says,
"AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."


Rev 5:11-12
11
Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands, 12saying with a loud voice,
"Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing."

The four living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and worshiped.

Who has the power over demons ?


Only God has the power and authority over the demons,spirits and angels. It is clear the demons recognized Jesus identity as God in the flesh.


Luke 9:1
And He called the twelve together, and gave them power and authority over all the demons and to heal diseases.

Matt 8:29
What business do we have with each other, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?"

Mark 5:7
"What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God, do not torment me!"

Luke 10:17-18
The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name." 18 And He said to them, "I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.

Satan was once a good angel. He rebelled against God and left heaven along with the other evil angels. Some say he was hurled from heaven.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


hope this helps !!!
You will not like it when God shows the world he is with the JW,s.
 
Correct, and when he came in ... "FLESH" .... "Lord" he is that same creator. scripture, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" notice the verses said, equal ... "WITH" .... and not equal ... "TO" ... which would indicate another separate and distinct PERSON. but it do not say that. it says equal "WITH" indicating the same ONE PERSON, but in an ECHAD of himself. supportive scripture, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." the LORD, I, One person. he said "I, I, I am he. again one person, now this,
Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." again, I, I, I, one person is "ALSO". and also means in addition to. see it now? "WITH" indicate God is the ECHAD of himself, or the EQUAL SHARE of his OWN-SELF. meaning he is the EQUAL SHARE of himself in flesh. or as the bible sys, the "DIVERSITY" of his own self in flesh... as the OFFSPRING or the Son of God.

101G.
God didn't come--No where in the bible does it teach God came down here as a mortal. Its fact--God sent his son.( John 3:16-17)
 
Then the Scripture Itself declares that JESUS is LORD = YHWH
No it doesn't, twisting it does. The true God shares many things with his son. He GAVE his son all authority and the judging. That means 2 things-1) he didn't have those things before they were given to him. 2)Only one greater can give those things.
 
God didn't come--No where in the bible does it teach God came down here as a mortal. Its fact--God sent his son.( John 3:16-17)
another ERROR on your part... SCRIPTURE, Isaiah 35:4 "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you."

now, are you going to stick with your false statement?

101G.
 
Gods power goes through Jesus( Acts 2:22)--Jesus only does the Fathers will, only teaches what the Father tells him to teach. Jesus obeys his God and Father.
ERROR, do you even KNOW the GREAT COMMISSION? LISTE N and LEARN, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" Matthew 28:20 "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

Now K, THINK, if the Lord Jesus have "ALL" POWER.... in HEAVEN and EARTH, why do he have to go through anyone? he has it all.

101G.
 
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