Is anyone else a Seer?

[David Koberstein]

Normally it is what to pray according to His will. That is why I've received100% of what I've prayed by just praying what He says to me.

Also, I'll ask Him questions expecting an answer, and He gives me the answer to my question. James 1:5-6 And it is not what I've ever learned before as you pointed out our natural reasoning. And He doesn't contradict Scripture like the doctrines of the church for the last 1900 years has done.

After 47 years of Him interrupting my own thoughts with His words, I've come to recognize when He is speaking. Especially if He includes a vision.

This is totally bogus and demonic. Adonai speaks to people through His Word not some make believe vision. Nobody receives 100% of what that they ask from Adonai, not even Moses, Abraham or Yeshua. You are a fraud and a fake. You think people are stupid enough to believe you? I know you crave attention and thar why the

I meant the ceremonials in the 10 commandments.

You need to be specific when communicating with a Jew . As talented as we are we still can't read minds.
Shalom

 

[Dizerner]

Some people really love to hug their shadows.

God help 'em.

 

[David Koberstein]

Some people really love to hug their shadows.

God help 'em.

Oh well. What can I say?
Shalom

 

[dwight92070]

You are missing the point. The Sabbath was set aside by God to be able to spend exclusive time with man. You say you rest in Him daily, but your time is not all devoted to him that day. Sabbath gives us time to learn more of Him--that is the rest that is spoken of. I'm sure David loves the Lord daily, but he knows Sabbath is special. It was commanded by God--it is not a ceremonial law, as there are no ceremonial laws in the 10 commandments. If God set aside a day for us, it must be important.
I wouldn't trade my Sabbath time for anything.

If the Sabbath is not a ceremonial law, then why does Paul lump it in with other ceremonial laws in Colossians 2:16-17?

"Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food and drink or in respect to a festival (annual) or a new moon (monthly) or a Sabbath Day (weekly) - things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ."

 

[David Koberstein]

The Talmud has many terrible things to say about Jesus. For example, that a sorcerer raised Him from the dead and that He was boiling in hot excrement. If I was a Jew, I would not be proud of the terrible things said there. This goes way beyond hypocrisy - it's blasphemous.

This is the antisemitism that exists in the church today fueled by antisemitic people like you.
You need to read Michael Browns book
"Christian Antisemitism"
Confronting the lies in today's Church
Shalom

 

[Quintus5]

If the Sabbath is not a ceremonial law, then why does Paul lump it in with other ceremonial laws in Colossians 2:16-17?

"Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food and drink or in respect to a festival (annual) or a new moon (monthly) or a Sabbath Day (weekly) - things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ."

There are ceremonial Sabbaths too. The Sabbath is a memorial of Creation.

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Ceremonial Sabbaths​

1. Origin: These were specific days of rest and worship tied to the Jewish festival calendar, as outlined in Leviticus 23 and elsewhere in the Torah.
2. Purpose: Often commemorated specific events or pointed forward to Christ and His redemptive work. They were symbolic and fulfilled in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.
3. Examples:
   • Feast of Trumpets: A day of rest on the first day of the seventh month (Leviticus 23:23-25).
   • Day of Atonement: A solemn Sabbath of rest on the tenth day of the seventh month (Leviticus 23:26-32).
   • Feast of Tabernacles: The first and eighth days of this feast were Sabbaths (Leviticus 23:39).
4. Regularity: These Sabbaths were not weekly but occurred on specific dates in the Jewish calendar. They could fall on any day of the week.
5. Temporary Nature: Many Christians believe that these ceremonial Sabbaths were part of the Mosaic covenant and were fulfilled in Jesus (e.g., Colossians 2:16-17).

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Key Differences​

Aspect	Weekly Sabbath	Ceremonial Sabbaths
Establishment	Creation week (Genesis 2:2-3)	Mosaic Law (Leviticus 23)
Frequency	Weekly, every seventh day	Occasional, tied to festivals
Purpose	Memorial of creation and redemption	Symbolic foreshadowing of Christ
Fulfillment	Continues as a moral commandment	Fulfilled in Christ, seen as no longer binding (Colossians 2:16-17)

 

[dwight92070]

This is the antisemitism that exists in the church today fueled by antisemitic people like you.
You need to read Michael Browns book
"Christian Antisemitism"
Confronting the lies in today's Church
Shalom

So right away you pull out the race card. I love the Jewish people, which is why I chose to live on a kibbutz and volunteer to work for them for the summer of 1975. It was Kibbutz Einat, which was about 15 miles northeast of Tel Aviv. I have no idea if it's still there or not. There were about 600 people on the kibbutz. Schmoolik (sp?) and Rivka were the married couple in charge of the volunteers. An elderly lady, Pecia (sp?), who was a holocaust survivor, with her serial number tattooed on her arm, gave us a few Hebrew lessons. The kibbutz had orchards of pear trees and oranges, and they also had cotton fields right next to the airstrips at the airport in Tel Aviv. They also had dairy cattle, a bakery, and made shoes and had a fruit packing plant. We celebrated the 50th anniversary of their kibbutz with them with a special meal with actual pieces of chicken - we normally had very little meat in our meals. We got up one morning to see one of the buildings on fire and scores of men were racing around to put it out. We never found out what caused it. I accidentally fell from a ladder in the orchards when I was thinning a pear tree, and I broke a bone in my elbow. Schmoolik took me to a Tel Aviv hospital, where they put a cast on my arm, all paid for by the kibbutz. They also blessed us with at least a week long tour of Israel. (It probably was more like 2 weeks) We went to Mt. Carmel, Acco, the Sea of Galilee, Nazareth, Bethlehem, Jerusalem, the Dead Sea, Masada, Eilat on the Red Sea, and more. We slept in sleeping bags on the shore of the Sea of Galilee and also on the shore of the Red Sea. It was an amazing adventure and I am extremely grateful for it. I actually sold my car to pay for the round-trip airline ticket on El-AL airlines.

But all of that aside, does this mean that you, as a Jew cannot allow any criticism of the Talmud, even if it is warranted?

 

[David Koberstein]

So right away you pull out the race card. I love the Jewish people, which is why I chose to live on a kibbutz and volunteer to work for them for the summer of 1975. It was Kibbutz Einat, which was about 15 miles northeast of Tel Aviv. I have no idea if it's still there or not. There were about 600 people on the kibbutz. Schmoolik (sp?) and Rivka were the married couple in charge of the volunteers. An elderly lady, Pecia (sp?), who was a holocaust survivor, with her serial number tattooed on her arm, gave us a few Hebrew lessons. The kibbutz had orchards of pear trees and oranges, and they also had cotton fields right next to the airstrips at the airport in Tel Aviv. They also had dairy cattle, a bakery, and made shoes and had a fruit packing plant. We celebrated the 50th anniversary of their kibbutz with them with a special meal with actual pieces of chicken - we normally had very little meati in our meals. We got up one morning to see one of the buildings on fire and scores of men were racing around to put it out. We never found out what caused it. I accidentally fell from a ladder in the orchards when I was thinning a pear tree, and I broke a bone in my elbow. Schmoolik took me to a Tel Aviv hospital, where they put a cast on my arm, all paid for by the kibbutz. They also blessed us with at least a week long tour of Israel. (It probably was more like 2 weeks) We went to Mt. Carmel, Acco, the Sea of Galilee, Nazareth, Bethlehem, Jerusalem, the Dead Sea, Masada, Eilat on the Red Sea, and more. We slept in sleeping bags on the shore of the Sea of Galilee and also on the shore of the Red Sea. It was an amazing adventure and I am extremely grateful for it. I actually sold my car to pay for the round-trip airline ticket on El-AL airlines.

But all of that aside, does this mean that you, as a Jew cannot allow any criticism of the Talmud, even if it is warranted?

No. The Talmud is not a perfect book. I don't refer to it very often. I use my CJB or my TLV
Bible and the Jewish Didache for study.
I do have Messianic commentaries I also consult.
Another burr under my saddle so to speak is why do you Christians celebrate Messiah's birth on a pagan holiday? Why do you show and speak of a wooden manager? The feeding troughs (manager) in the Middle East during that time was made of stone and held together with clay and mud for the purpose of holding grain and water.
Shalom

 

[dwight92070]

No. The Talmud is not a perfect book. I don't refer to it very often. I use my CJB or my TLV
Bible and the Jewish Didache for study.
I do have Messianic commentaries I also consult.
Another burr under my saddle so to speak is why do you Christians celebrate Messiah's birth on a pagan holiday? Why do you show and speak of a wooden manager? The feeding troughs (manager) in the Middle East during that time was made of stone and held together with clay and mud for the purpose of holding grain and water.
Shalom

Now you're beginning to sound like the scribes and Pharisees. You "strain out a gnat and swallow a camel". Do the pagan's own the calendar? Doesn't the Old Testament say - "This is the day that the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it."? Psalm 118:24 Every day is literally made by the Lord. Should we refrain from rejoicing or celebrating on December 25, because the pagans used that as their holiday? Who cares what they did or what they do now? We have the freedom to celebrate Christ's birth whenever we want? In fact, if the pagans are using that day for evil, then if we use it for good, aren't we, in a sense, overcoming evil with good? And it has worked, because I would say that more people celebrate Christ's birth worldwide today on December 25th, than those who celebrate anything else or nothing at all. But again, it's foolish to try to adjust our holidays, so that none of them fall on a day that the pagan's celebrate something else. In fact, I would guess that some pagan's, somewhere in the world, would celebrate every day of the year. I'm sure you know that the days of the week are named after pagan gods. Should we stop using Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday ... etc? Of course not.

The Hebrew word for manger means: a manger or a feeding trough. The Greek word for manger means: a manger.
Who cares if it was wood or stone? The Bible doesn't tell us either way. Isn't the birth of Jesus more important than what His manger was made of?

Aren't these trivial matters to be concerned about? Like a gnat? Why would you waste time on such unnecessary information?

 

[David Koberstein]

Now you're beginning to sound like the scribes and Pharisees. You "strain out a gnat and swallow a camel". Do the pagan's own the calendar? Doesn't the Old Testament say - "This is the day that the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it."? Psalm 118:24 Every day is literally made by the Lord. Should we refrain from rejoicing or celebrating on December 25, because the pagans used that as their holiday? Who cares what they did or what they do now? We have the freedom to celebrate Christ's birth whenever we want? In fact, if the pagans are using that day for evil, then if we use it for good, aren't we, in a sense, overcoming evil with good? And it has worked, because I would say that more people celebrate Christ's birth worldwide today on December 25th, than those who celebrate anything else or nothing at all. But again, it's foolish to try to adjust our holidays, so that none of them fall on a day that the pagan's celebrate something else. In fact, I would guess that some pagan's, somewhere in the world, would celebrate every day of the year. I'm sure you know that the days of the week are named after pagan gods. Should we stop using Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday ... etc? Of course not.

The Hebrew word for manger means: a manger or a feeding trough. The Greek word for manger means: a manger.
Who cares if it was wood or stone? The Bible doesn't tell us either way. Isn't the birth of Jesus more important than what His manger was made of?

Aren't these trivial matters to be concerned about? Like a gnat? Why would you waste time on such unnecessary information?

If you are erroneous in the small and trivial biblical matters you will be the same way with the weighty matters of Scripture.
We used to have All Saints Day. So who perferted that to Halloween?
Christians given the chance will prefert anything biblical or otherwise.
Shalom

 

[dwight92070]

It's spelled "perverted" and "pervert".

What day a Christian chooses to celebrate Christmas, or if they choose to not celebrate it, is NOT a Biblical matter.
Nor is the building material for a manger a Biblical matter - or else the authors would have told us what it was made from and why that is important.
Please show me where the Bible tells us to celebrate All Saints Day.
It sounds to me like you have a perverted sense of what's important to God and what isn't.

 

[David Koberstein]

It's spelled "perverted" and "pervert".

What day a Christian chooses to celebrate Christmas, or if they choose to not celebrate it, is NOT a Biblical matter.
Nor is the building material for a manger a Biblical matter - or else the authors would have told us what it was made from and why that is important.
Please show me where the Bible tells us to celebrate All Saints Day.
It sounds to me like you have a perverted sense of what's important to God and what isn't.

I have a sense on what has been perverted and/or misconstrued as fact. I also have a view if you ate spreading falsehoods on small unimportant matters are you to be believed on larger or weighty matters.
Shabbat Shalom

 

[dwight92070]

I agree with your second sentence. But celebrating Christmas on December 25 and thinking that Jesus' manger was made out of wood is NOT spreading falsehoods. You have no proof whatsoever that His manger was made of stone. You can check history and guess that it was, but that doesn't prove it. Unless you or I were there, we don't know. Once again, who cares?

 

[David Koberstein]

I agree with your second sentence. But celebrating Christmas on December 25 and thinking that Jesus' manger was made out of wood is NOT spreading falsehoods. You have no proof whatsoever that His manger was made of stone. You can check history and guess that it was, but that doesn't prove it. Unless you or I were there, we don't know. Once again, who cares?

I guess you never been to Isra'el. The feeding troughs are made out of stone not wood, because they have to hold water and grain.
My 8 year old nephew in Hebrew school knows that why don't you? Yeshua was NOT born on December 25th a pagan holiday. He was probably born on or near Rosh Hashanah the Jewish New Year that is celebrated in late September or early October depending on the lunar calendar. Other Rabbis believe he was born in late spring or early summer. Once again I care, especially when it comes to Truth.
Shabbat Shalom

I agree with your second sentence. But celebrating Christmas on December 25 and thinking that Jesus' manger was made out of wood is NOT spreading falsehoods. You have no proof whatsoever that His manger was made of stone. You can check history and guess that it was, but that doesn't prove it. Unless you or I were there, we don't know. Once again, who cares?

 

[praise_yeshua]

I guess you never been to Isra'el. The feeding troughs are made out of stone not wood, because they have to hold water and grain.
My 8 year old nephew in Hebrew school knows that why don't you? Yeshua was NOT born on December 25th a pagan holiday. He was probably born on or near Rosh Hashanah the Jewish New Year that is celebrated in late September or early October depending on the lunar calendar. Other Rabbis believe he was born in late spring or early summer. Once again I care, especially when it comes to Truth.
Shabbat Shalom

Obviously you were not there when the events happened yourself. Always judging what was by what is.... isn't always true.

This is why I celebrate our Sabbath every day in Christ. The "stone" the builders rejected. Obviously a "rock of offence" to you.

 

[dwight92070]

David, you're more concerned about winning an argument than the truth, and ridiculing any who disagree with you. Mangers were also made from wood, even for water. Does your 8 year old know that? Obviously you don't care about the truth because you deny that any mangers were made from wood.

What Is a Manger Used For? - Christianity FAQ

Aug 29, 2023 · In ancient cultures, mangers were often made from readily available materials like wood, stone, or clay. Their basic design—a rectangular or circular container, often elevated off the ground—has remained largely unchanged over the years, a testament to its functional effectiveness.

You have no evidence that Jesus was not born on December 25th, nor do I claim He was. Nor do I care.
You're just like the Pharisees who "strain out a gnat and swallow a camel."

There are more important things in our walk with God. These things don't matter.

 

[David Koberstein]

David, you're more concerned about winning an argument than the truth, and ridiculing any who disagree with you. Mangers were also made from wood, even for water. Does your 8 year old know that? Obviously you don't care about the truth because you deny that any mangers were made from wood.

What Is a Manger Used For? - Christianity FAQ

Aug 29, 2023 · In ancient cultures, mangers were often made from readily available materials like wood, stone, or clay. Their basic design—a rectangular or circular container, often elevated off the ground—has remained largely unchanged over the years, a testament to its functional effectiveness.

You have no evidence that Jesus was not born on December 25th, nor do I claim He was. Nor do I care.
You're just like the Pharisees who "strain out a gnat and swallow a camel."

There are more important things in our walk with God. These things don't matter.

Your still spreading false narratives. There is no wooden manager in Israel during that time and during the current time. I have visited there with a Jewish pastor. You are all about lies and distortion of truth. You connect Yeshua's birth with a pagan holiday.
How low can you go? You also connect His resurrection with another pagan holiday Easter.
Give me a break. While the Rabbis do not know the exact date of his birth but they have a pretty good idea when He was born and it is not on your pagan holiday of Christmas.
Are you getting ready for your next pagan holiday of Easter?
Shalom

David, you're more concerned about winning an argument than the truth, and ridiculing any who disagree with you. Mangers were also made from wood, even for water. Does your 8 year old know that? Obviously you don't care about the truth because you deny that any mangers were made from wood.

What Is a Manger Used For? - Christianity FAQ

Aug 29, 2023 · In ancient cultures, mangers were often made from readily available materials like wood, stone, or clay. Their basic design—a rectangular or circular container, often elevated off the ground—has remained largely unchanged over the years, a testament to its functional effectiveness.

You have no evidence that Jesus was not born on December 25th, nor do I claim He was. Nor do I care.
You're just like the Pharisees who "strain out a gnat and swallow a camel."

There are more important things in our walk with God. These things don't matter.

 

[dwight92070]

That we can agree on. Before I met my wife, she was involved with the Pentecostal and Assembly of God folks. She told me it was all fake and for show.
Shalom

That is true for many, but there are some genuine believers as well. It largely depends on the pastor. If he encourages emotional expression, then that's what the people give him. If not, they don't. Many make the pastor their "idol" on a pedestal, which is cult-like. Jack Hibbs has a cult-like following. I don't know what denomination he is. The same with David Jeremiah, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, Steven Furtick, Kenneth Copeland, and the list goes on.
But there are some decent Pentecostal churches - those who have abandoned their plastic pep-rally style worship services, and worship Him in Spirit and truth.

 

[dwight92070]

As I said before, I lived on Kibbutz Einat, 15 miles northeast of Tel-Aviv, for the entire summer of 1975, so don't tell me I haven't been there. However, looking for mangers to see what they were made from was not high on my priority list. That's something you apparently did, so you could have a reason to condemn Christians who often portray a nativity scene with a wooden manger. As I said, we visited many sites, Tel Aviv, Akko, Nazareth, the Sea of Galilee, the Jordan River, Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Mt. Carmel, Eilat, the Dead Sea, Masada. I don't recall seeing any mangers at all. There were none (that I saw) on the kibbutz. Although historically there were wooden mangers and stone and clay, no Christian that I know believes that the nativity scene is a totally accurate picture of what it was really like when Jesus was born. Nobody knows for sure, no, not even the Jewish people.
This may surprise you, but the Jews do not have a corner on Biblical knowledge. In fact, if they have not accepted Jesus as their Messiah and Lord, then they do not even understand the Old Testament, much less the New Testament. Paul tells us that in 2 Corinthians 3:14-16:
"But their (the sons of Israel) minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ. But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away."

So if you want true knowledge about the Bible, either the Old Testament or the New, don't ask a Jewish rabbi, unless he has received Jesus as his Messiah and Lord. Even then, some messianic Jews, before they came to the Lord, were so steeped in rabbinic teaching and the Talmud and the Jewish traditions, etc. that they can't see how the teaching in the New Testament contradicts much of what they have learned. Unfortunately some immature Christians think that the closer they get to Judaism and all things Jewish, the closer they get to God. It's just the opposite. Paul himself was steeped in Judaism but listen to what he said after being saved:

" ...If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless. But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, ..." Philippians 3: 4-9

 

[dwight92070]

Do Christians get a free get out of Hell card on Sundays in church? I know they live hypocritical lives the rest of the week.
Shalom

Again, Christians do not have a corner on hypocrisy. I'm sure the percentage of Jewish hypocrites is almost identical to nonJewish hypocrites.