dwight92070
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So you think that all of God's gifts are supernatural? Well, they all come from Him, but they are not all supernatural. "Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, ..." James 1:17You know what, dwight. The key word in your question is "genuine." I was thinking about your question today and wanted to ask you how strong a dose of the Holy Spirit did you receive, or have you never been baptized in the Holy Spirit yet where you have been given supernatural powers. As I may have told you, I was in church for 30 years, and the last 6 of those were actually seeking and failing to receive that baptism of fire and inner relationship with God. Before that I was raised in a denomination that believed those supernatural gifts were actually from the devil, not God. Those denominations are dangerous to our soul. Therefore, I believe there may be many in the whole church, and especially in the cessationist type denominations who refuse to seek God to the point of Him being found. They have been taught to be afraid. But Jesus said, "fear not."
When Jesus baptized me with fire, that fire burned away all major past sins and desires from my nature. I think it was because I could also from that Wednesday night prayer service on hear God's voice regularly. He even told me what to pray, and all I had to do was repeat the words He said, and I received the answer to the prayer (100% in 48 years. I think someone in the church that does not have this supernatural relationship with God, knowing Who He is could fall silent and not be in the Spirit as they chose to stop being in His presence.
People like to bring up saints in the Bible who sinned. But we will all sin until we have been baptized with the Spirit. Peter denied knowing Jesus, but it wasn't until after Jesus was raised from the dead did He give the apostles the Holy Spirit, then the power baptism (the second baptism) on the Day of Pentecost.
Paul says that some have the gift of service, teaching, exhorting, giving, leading, and showing mercy. Romans 12:7-8 Of course these are in addition to the 9 supernatural gifts
How strong a dose of the Holy Spirit did I receive? You mean on a scale from 1 to 10? I don't know. All I know is that Jesus baptized me in His Holy Spirit in August of 1971. Where is the scale to even measure that?
Yes, I was raised in a denomination, but I wasn't saved until 2 years after I left home. Growing up in that denomination they never even talked about the gifts of the Holy Spirit, either pro or con. In fact, I never even heard of them until later.
Actually it was the blood of Jesus that cleansed you of your past sins, not fire. I'm glad you agree with me now, saying it was your PAST sins that were taken away, not your present or future sins. Where does the Bible say that He takes away our sinful desires? We are told to "reckon ourselves as dead to sin" by faith and to resist the devil and our own lust and to "take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ." 2 Corinthians 10:5.
Peter sinned EVEN AFTER he was filled with the Holy Spirit. Paul had to rebuke him and apparently Peter submitted to that rebuke. So what happened? Peter's life and even his occasional sin didn't stop, just because he received the power of the baptism of the Holy Spirit - unlike your claim. Well, maybe you're actually stronger and more spiritual than Peter.
Again, your "gift" of hearing "God's voice" regularly, even telling you what to pray, then you repeat it and receive His answer 100% of the time - for the last 48 years, is beyond what even Paul and Peter and James and John ever claimed. So obviously, you're "gift" is far greater than anything that they ever received - OR you're hearing the voice of a demon.