Is anyone else a Seer?

Have you ever been born again of the Holy Spirit? It doesn't sound like it. Jesus said, "You MUST be born again of the Spirit." Otherwise, you won't inherit the Kingdom of God.
Not only have I been born of the Holy Spirit (ruach hakodesh) when I accepted Jesus Christ (Yeshua Hamashiach) as my Savior (moshia, משיח),
Redeemer (go'el, גואל), and eternal King (melech, מלך). Since I am a Jew we as a people were chosen of God. So who are you? Who elected you as the salvation police? Speaking in tongues is like the 8 track tape player that once long ago might have been in vogue, but will cease to ever return. Do you speak in tongues to gain attention? or put on a show? It sure isn't the Messianic faith and it isn't the Christian faith. A woman of the Nazarene denomination once told me she had a second work of grace and hadn't sinned in 40 years. Sounds much like you. We know that no one is without sin and when we say that; we make God out to be a liar. People that speak in tongues could possible be demon possessed or have some psychological impairment that needs medical attention.

Layla tov לילה טוב
Shalom שׁלום
 
That's what I call it. The other seers at the little church call them auras. I don't like to call this glow what psychic mediums call it. That is the demonic counterfeit of this gift. Mediums also see it on anyone. The true gift seems to be only judging a teaching, because I didn't see anything during song service, or announcements - only the teaching.

I've been able to hear God's voice for 47 years. So that is the ear though it is actually heard in my mind. And now I have the gift for the eyes.

1 Corinthians 2:9-10
9 But as it is written:

Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
I'd like to sincerely understand how you discern the very voice of God from your own voice. We all have an inner voice that is connected to our learning and understanding. We reason and discern in the languages of men as we learn naturally in the body. Even spiritual understanding must come to us through the language of men for us to understand. There are exceptions to this. I know what I believe but I sincerely would like to know your understanding of this. Thank you!
 
My day.is the 7th day as commanded in the Torah for rest and worship. The nice thing on Sunday when we go out to eat at a restaurant sometime before noon we don't have to line up or wait for a table. You guys keep worshipping on Sundays and do us Jews ✡️ a favor. LOL I think Christians have a greater measure of hypocrisy than Jews ✡️.
Shalom
If I didn't rest in Jesus every day of my life, I think I'd go nuts. People don't know what they're missing by serving a day instead of Jesus.

I know some of you think I'm already nuts....
 
That's what I call it. The other seers at the little church call them auras. I don't like to call this glow what psychic mediums call it. That is the demonic counterfeit of this gift. Mediums also see it on anyone. The true gift seems to be only judging a teaching, because I didn't see anything during song service, or announcements - only the teaching.

I've been able to hear God's voice for 47 years. So that is the ear though it is actually heard in my mind. And now I have the gift for the eyes.

1 Corinthians 2:9-10
9 But as it is written:

Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

The Bible has a term for that. Judgmentalism and self-righteousness.

Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: (Lk. 18:9 NKJ)

Try this prayer instead:

And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying,`God, be merciful to me a sinner!' (Lk. 18:13 NKJ)
Legalism is "more general" because the rules one puts above Messiah may be from places besides Mosaic law. Some legalists may insist on
kashrut, worshipping on Shabbat, or keeping other parts of the Torah as meritorious for achieving righteousness with God. Less rare, however,
are New Covenant legalists, those who believe that you must contradict torah since you are free in Messiah. They might spy out our liberty,
shocked that we do not eat a pork chop! They might insist that Sunday is now mandatory Shabbat, or say that the resurrection must be
celebrated with Easter, and certainly not to be identified with Passover. Such New Covenant legalists have worked contrary to the Scriptures,
contrary to the plan of God, and in effect hide the Good News from the eyes of the Jewish people. This is not to be condoned. These legalists
would put you into their own form of bondage, thinking it "Christianity" When witnesses of a so called Good News assert that for a Jew to
believe in Jesus, the Messiah of Israel, they should abandon their Jewish heritage, this is wicked legalism. Many such groups in reality have
a different Jesus, a different Spirit, and a different Gospel!
To rebut the claim that real believers must come under any legal system to be made righteous before God. Paul says "listen to the Law!"
In so doing he places disagreement in the historical context of Mosaic torah itself (Genesis 21:8-14; Galatians 4:21). Paul says in Galatians
4:4-5 But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son; born of a woman, born under the Law, so that He might redeem
those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.

Messiah born under this good system redeemed those of us born under the same system. Do you wish to be under that system? If so,
then listen to it and learn. Mosaic torah does not teach you to be under law, but points in a different direction----to cling to Messiah and
the promise fulfilled in Him. To think we are to place ourselves under mere rules and regulations rather than under Messiah is neither
the teaching of the New Covenant nor the Mosaic torah.
It was for freedom that Messiah set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. (Galatians 5:1)
We are free according to God's promise. God's grace, the power of the Holy Spirit and truth of God's word will make us more than
conquerors in Messiah, and able to honor God in all our ways. So be resolute in the pardon of Messiah and turn away from trusting
in mere regulations.
Thus, torah comes full circle, making application of the original instructions to Moses, by the inspired words of Messiah Himself. May God
help us to yield our lives completely to Him., and to learn to truly care for others, May we find rest in our Lord, and proclaim the Good News
of Messiah's triumphant work in His death and resurrection. Faith in Yeshua, His love, sacrifice and grace, is the true bridge to Heaven, and
the key to living a heavenly life here on earth!
Shalom

'Messianic Foundations'
Fulfill Your Calling In The Jewish Messiah
by Sam Nadler
 
I'd like to sincerely understand how you discern the very voice of God from your own voice. We all have an inner voice that is connected to our learning and understanding. We reason and discern in the languages of men as we learn naturally in the body. Even spiritual understanding must come to us through the language of men for us to understand. There are exceptions to this. I know what I believe but I sincerely would like to know your understanding of this. Thank you!
Normally it is what to pray according to His will. That is why I've received100% of what I've prayed by just praying what He says to me.

Also, I'll ask Him questions expecting an answer, and He gives me the answer to my question. James 1:5-6 And it is not what I've ever learned before as you pointed out our natural reasoning. And He doesn't contradict Scripture like the doctrines of the church for the last 1900 years has done.

After 47 years of Him interrupting my own thoughts with His words, I've come to recognize when He is speaking. Especially if He includes a vision.
 
Who elected you as the salvation police?
When someone would rather attack others as you do, that is bad fruit. "They will know we are Christians by our Love."

Also, Matthew 7:
Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

You still have time to repent and grow up and become like Jesus.
 
Normally it is what to pray according to His will. That is why I've received100% of what I've prayed by just praying what He says to me.

Also, I'll ask Him questions expecting an answer, and He gives me the answer to my question. James 1:5-6 And it is not what I've ever learned before as you pointed out our natural reasoning. And He doesn't contradict Scripture like the doctrines of the church for the last 1900 years has done.

After 47 years of Him interrupting my own thoughts with His words, I've come to recognize when He is speaking. Especially if He includes a vision.
Lady you are demonized and crazy.
Shalom
 
If I didn't rest in Jesus every day of my life, I think I'd go nuts. People don't know what they're missing by serving a day instead of Jesus.

I know some of you think I'm already nuts....
You are missing the point. The Sabbath was set aside by God to be able to spend exclusive time with man. You say you rest in Him daily, but your time is not all devoted to him that day. Sabbath gives us time to learn more of Him--that is the rest that is spoken of. I'm sure David loves the Lord daily, but he knows Sabbath is special. It was commanded by God--it is not a ceremonial law, as there are no ceremonial laws in the 10 commandments. If God set aside a day for us, it must be important.
I wouldn't trade my Sabbath time for anything.
 
If I didn't rest in Jesus every day of my life, I think I'd go nuts. People don't know what they're missing by serving a day instead of Jesus.

I know some of you think I'm already nuts....
Yes, read these couple of verses 5-6 in Romans 7 that puts verses 14-25 in context. 5-6 is us now. 14-25 is when we were in the flesh. Romans 8:9 says, but you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God indwells you. And if you do not have the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Him.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

Keeping a day is by the letter, not the Spirit. Abiding in Jesus is every moment 24/7/365. Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith. By abiding in Jesus all the time causes immature fruit to mature by the Spirit. You will notice that as time goes by and you read the Word daily, you do not react to the haters on the forum the same way as you used to. And it wasn't your willpower, it was your new nature that Jesus cleansed.
 
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Yes, read these couple of verses 5-6 in Romans 7 that puts verses 14-25 in context. 5-6 is us now. 14-25 is when we were in the flesh. Romans 8:9 says, but you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God indwells you. And if you do not have the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Him.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

Keeping a day is by the letter, not the Spirit. Abiding in Jesus is every moment 24/7/365. Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith. By abiding in Jesus all the time causes immature fruit to mature by the Spirit. You will notice that as time goes by and you read the Word daily, you do not react to the haters on the forum the same way as you used to. And it wasn't your willpower, it was your new nature that Jesus cleansed.
Are you part of a cult?
Shalom
 
When someone would rather attack others as you do, that is bad fruit. "They will know we are Christians by our Love."

Also, Matthew 7:
Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

You still have time to repent and grow up and become like Jesus.

When someone would rather attack others as you do, that is bad fruit. "They will know we are Christians by our Love."

Also, Matthew 7:
Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

You still have time to repent and grow up and become like Jesus.
You are a fake Christian that gives the Christian faith a black eye. Tongue 👅 talkers are demon possessed. I've seen your rot gut fruit. Your the one that needs to repent get rid of your hocus pocus crap. I believe I am the only person on this forum that uses their real name. Everyone else hides behind some fake name. Wonder why that is? And I wonder what they don't want you to see. Get off the drugs and you won't see hallucinations.
Shalom
 
Yes, read these couple of verses 5-6 in Romans 7 that puts verses 14-25 in context. 5-6 is us now. 14-25 is when we were in the flesh. Romans 8:9 says, but you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God indwells you. And if you do not have the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Him.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

Keeping a day is by the letter, not the Spirit. Abiding in Jesus is every moment 24/7/365. Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith. By abiding in Jesus all the time causes immature fruit to mature by the Spirit. You will notice that as time goes by and you read the Word daily, you do not react to the haters on the forum the same way as you used to. And it wasn't your willpower, it was your new nature that Jesus cleansed.

:)

Back to our conversation about discerning the voice of God.

I believe God spoke to me this morning. He spoke to in the circumstances of my life. I believe does that to His own and even His enemies. I had some circumstances in my family that made me realize some "facts of life" designed to teach us about God. I detail just part of it. I was sitting at a stop light to take a left turn. I had been mediating upon the various Scriptures and teaches I've learned throughout my life. The knowledge that I have gain in living in this environment we call "earth". As I looked up at the stop light. I could not tell what color it was. The sun was actually so bright in that one spot that it was filling the entire stop light. All I could see was a bright circle. I began to worry that I wouldn't be able to actually know when to turn or not. There was one person beside of me in the double lane turn. I wondered if they could see when to turn. I got out my best sunglasses (I had time. It is a busy intersection) and it didn't help. Literally turn signal/stop light was exactly in the right angle to flood the entire stop light so that I couldn't see anything but the sun. The exact angle. I couldn't go forward. I couldn't go backwards to get a better look at the stop light. Even if I did, I don't think I could have changed anything. The light was just so bright and in the perfect position. (Timing). Then I noticed the other turn signal. I eventually got to where I realized I could block out the overwhelming light in my turn signal by looking at the other turn signal.

It is in that moment I believe God Himself (Holy Spirit) spoke to me. I didn't hear an audible voice that wasn't mine. I heard God in the "inner man" that sounds like my own voice. I was imparted knowledge that I wouldn't have had otherwise. The situation, the Scriptures and Spirit all combined at that moment to teach me about our existence.

I believe God intervened in my life to make that happen for ME. I believe He will do the same for anyone else.

I believe that is the cooperation that God seeks in the freedom we have in this life to be who we should become. I wouldn't have that pleasure without Jesus Christ and God's personal touch in my own life and body through the Spirit of God.

I praise Him for it. It is my pleasure to know such a wonderful Savior.
 
Uh, says who.

Pulled this special rule out of the backside did we. :rolleyes:

There is only THE law. Many people don't know exactly what Judaism teaches.

There are aspects of THE LAW.... that provide and establish what we reference as ceremonial things but it can not be separated from the law. Like God is ONE.... the LAW is one.
 
Really? Where are they(the ceremonials)? As a Christian, I'm sure you keep 9 of them--the one you have problems with is the 4th,we already know your thought on this one.

16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,
17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. (Col. 2:16-17 NKJ)

For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, (Heb. 10:1 NKJ)


I call them: Shadow-Huggers.
 
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,
17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. (Col. 2:16-17 NKJ)

For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, (Heb. 10:1 NKJ)


I call them: Shadow-Huggers.
Jesus magnified the law . Remember when he talked about murder and adultery? He magnified them to include hate and even the thought of lust. The 10 Commandments were always in force. that is how everyone is judged.
I don't give hang if you keep Sabbath or no, the Sabbaths referred in the above verse are the ceremonial Sabbaths. Do what you wish.

The concept of ceremonial Sabbaths as opposed to the weekly Sabbath stems from a distinction made in biblical studies, particularly among some Christian groups.

The Weekly Sabbath

  1. Origin: Instituted at creation (Genesis 2:2-3) and codified in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:8-11).
  2. Purpose: A day of rest and worship, set apart by God as holy. It is a memorial of creation and later became associated with redemption (Deuteronomy 5:15).
  3. Regularity: Occurs every seventh day, known today as Saturday in most cultures.
  4. Universality: Seen as a perpetual and moral commandment for all humanity, transcending time and ceremonial laws.

Ceremonial Sabbaths

  1. Origin: These were specific days of rest and worship tied to the Jewish festival calendar, as outlined in Leviticus 23 and elsewhere in the Torah.
  2. Purpose: Often commemorated specific events or pointed forward to Christ and His redemptive work. They were symbolic and fulfilled in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.
  3. Examples:
    • Feast of Trumpets: A day of rest on the first day of the seventh month (Leviticus 23:23-25).
    • Day of Atonement: A solemn Sabbath of rest on the tenth day of the seventh month (Leviticus 23:26-32).
    • Feast of Tabernacles: The first and eighth days of this feast were Sabbaths (Leviticus 23:39).
  4. Regularity: These Sabbaths were not weekly but occurred on specific dates in the Jewish calendar. They could fall on any day of the week.
  5. Temporary Nature: Many Christians believe that these ceremonial Sabbaths were part of the Mosaic covenant and were fulfilled in Jesus (e.g., Colossians 2:16-17).

Key Differences

AspectWeekly SabbathCeremonial Sabbaths
EstablishmentCreation week (Genesis 2:2-3)Mosaic Law (Leviticus 23)
FrequencyWeekly, every seventh dayOccasional, tied to festivals
PurposeMemorial of creation and redemptionSymbolic foreshadowing of Christ
FulfillmentContinues as a moral commandmentFulfilled in Christ, seen as no longer binding (Colossians 2:16-17)

 
Heres some more stuff. Col 2:16-17
This passage comes from a letter written by the Apostle Paul to the church in Colossae. Paul is addressing concerns about false teachings and legalism that were creeping into the church, threatening to draw believers away from the sufficiency of Christ.

Key Themes in the Passage

  1. Legalism vs. Freedom in Christ:
    • Paul emphasizes that Christians are no longer bound by the ceremonial laws of the Mosaic covenant, such as dietary rules ("food or drink") or the observance of Jewish holy days ("festivals, new moons, sabbaths").
    • These elements were part of the Old Covenant, designed to point forward to Christ. Once Christ came, their purpose was fulfilled, and they are no longer binding for salvation.
  2. "Shadow of Things to Come":
    • Paul describes these practices as "a shadow of things to come." In Jewish tradition, these ceremonial laws and festivals symbolized or foreshadowed the work of Christ.
      • For example:
        • The Passover pointed to Christ as the Lamb of God (1 Corinthians 5:7).
        • The Day of Atonement pointed to Christ's work as our High Priest (Hebrews 9:11-12).
    • With the coming of Christ, the "shadow" has been replaced by the "substance," which is Christ Himself.
  3. "Let No One Judge You":
    • Paul encourages believers not to let others impose Old Covenant practices on them as a requirement for salvation or spiritual standing.
    • This reflects a shift from adherence to ceremonial law to a focus on Christ's all-sufficient sacrifice and grace.
  • Thanks Chat.
 
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