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13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; Gen. 14:13.

Gentiles are not Hebrew and Hebrews are not Gentile.

There were no Hebrews until the Lord called Abraham.

The USA was first referred to as "the colonies."
The name over time evolved into the United States of America.

Likewise.... the word Hebrew evolved into calling them Jews.

That is why we see the book of "Hebrews" which was directed to the Jews.

..............
 
There were no Hebrews until the Lord called Abraham.

The USA was first referred to as "the colonies."
The name over time evolved into the United States of America.

Likewise.... the word Hebrew evolved into calling them Jews.

That is why we see the book of "Hebrews" which was directed to the Jews.

..............
For the purposes of God the Hebrew family line derives from Eber.
 
Was Abraham a Jew or Gentile ?

The short answer is that Abraham was a Gentile who was chosen by God to be the ancestor of the Jewish people.

The term Jew is a shortened form of the word Judah, which was the name of one of the tribes of Israel, the tribe of David and of Jesus (Matthew 1:1). Judah was also the name of the southern half of the kingdom of Israel when it split into two parts (1 Kings 12), because it was dominated by the large tribe of Judah. The first time the word Jew is used in the Bible is during the exile (2 Kings 25:25), and may have been a term coined by the Babylonians or Persians to refer to the people in their midst who had come from the kingdom of Judah. By New Testament times, Jew was a common term, and it has remained in usage unto this day. Obviously, Abraham was never referred to by this term.

The term Gentile is simply from the Latin word for “nation.” When the term Gentiles is used in Scripture, it means “the nations.” If a person is a Gentile, he or she is a member of one of the many nations in the world. When Jew and Gentile are juxtaposed, the contrast is between one who is a member of God’s chosen nation and one who is a member of one of the hundreds of other nations or ethnic groups not chosen for special blessing in the way that Israel was. In this context, Gentile simply means “not Jewish.”

Abraham started out as a member of one of the many nations or ethnic groups that were in existence at the time. (Of course, these are somewhat artificial distinctions, because all people came from Adam and Eve, and all people are related if the genealogy is traced back far enough. However, after Babel, people started to segregate into smaller groups and develop into distinctive ethnic groups, clans, and nations.) Abraham was living in Ur of the Chaldeans. While he was there, God called him:

“The Lord had said to Abram, ‘Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you. I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you’” (Genesis 12:1–3).

At that point, Abraham was called and set apart for God’s purposes. He left his native country and people behind. His descendants would become the great nation of Israel, God’s chosen people, but the line had not been narrowed down yet. Abraham had several sons: Isaac, by his wife Sarah; Ishmael, by a slave of Sarah; and other sons with another wife after Sarah died. However, it was only Isaac who was the chosen one. Isaac had two sons, Jacob and Esau, and only Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel) was the chosen one. All of Jacob’s 12 sons were included as patriarchs in the nation of Israel and became the basis for the 12 tribes. It was at this point that the line had been finally set; however, the wives of Jacob’s sons were still from outside the family.

With the next generation of Jacob’s grandchildren, the descendants of Jacob became a distinct people group, and they were distinguished from the Egyptians among whom they were living as having all descended from one man named Israel. By the time of Exodus 1, they were recognized as a distinct nation.

Technically, no one was called a “Jew” before the exile; however, the people who became known as Jews were a distinct ethnic group by the time of Exodus 1. They were a distinct clan by the time of Jacob and his sons. Abraham was a Gentile, that is, a member of one of the many nations that had developed by his time. The Jews came from Abraham because he was chosen by God from among the nations to be the origin of a new nation. The Jews of Jesus’ day looked to Abraham (not Jacob/Israel) as the head of their race (see Matthew 3:9; Luke 3:8; John 8:39; Acts 13:26; Galatians 3:7). If one is thinking in these terms, it would not be wrong to think of Abraham as “the first Jew,” although that’s not technically correct.got ?

hope this helps !!!
 
Yes, but two men have not died in faith: Enoch and Elijah.
Revise your understanding and bring it into compliance with Scripture.
GINOLJC, to all.
so some men went into heaven before Jesus the Christ? John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." the Lord Jesus is the First fruit. so that right there end any nonesense that some man or men entered into heaven before the Lord Jesus the Christ did.

why don't you do some research on the matter... ok.

101G.
 
GINOLJC, to all.
so some men went into heaven before Jesus the Christ? John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." the Lord Jesus is the First fruit. so that right there end any nonesense that some man or men entered into heaven before the Lord Jesus the Christ did.

why don't you do some research on the matter... ok.

101G.
No, they don't necessarily have to go to heaven.
There is the Garden of Eden guarded by a cherub.
All Hebrew saints that died may have gone there when they died.
As you can see, I have done research. There is no other alternative.
Now Go! Sin no more.
 
No, they don't necessarily have to go to heaven.
There is the Garden of Eden guarded by a cherub.
All Hebrew saints that died may have gone there when they died.
As you can see, I have done research. There is no other alternative.
Now Go! Sin no more.
All Hebrew saints that died may have gone there when they died. LOL, LOL, LOL, ERROR, Listen and Learn,
Genesis 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:" Genesis 3:23 "Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken." Genesis 3:24 "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."

here Keep is the Hebrew term,
H8104 שָׁמַר shamar (shaw-mar') v.
1. (properly) to hedge about (as with thorns), i.e. guard.
2. (generally) to protect, attend to, etc.

[a primitive root]
KJV: beward, be circumspect, take heed (to self), keep(-er, self), mark, look narrowly, observe, preserve, regard, reserve, save (self), sure, (that lay) wait (for), watch(-man).


now please show by scripture this protection has been removed........ I hope you go with the thief on the cross scenario, .... (smile)..... please do.

101G.
 
Was Abraham a Jew or Gentile ?

The short answer is that Abraham was a Gentile who was chosen by God to be the ancestor of the Jewish people.
13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.
Gen. 14:13.

Hebrews do not come from Gentiles and Gentiles do not come from Hebrews.
It's like the designation from God between covenant "sons of God" and non-covenant "daughters of men."

God places distinction between the two. There is a covenant line that threads from Christ all the way to Adam. Eber is the father of the Hebrew people which is why Genesis 14:13 identifies Abram as Hebrew. It was the Hebrews that went into bondage in Egypt not Gentiles. And no Gentiles came out with the Hebrews when they left Egypt. God is very ethnic. And covenantal.
The term Jew is a shortened form of the word Judah, which was the name of one of the tribes of Israel, the tribe of David and of Jesus (Matthew 1:1). Judah was also the name of the southern half of the kingdom of Israel when it split into two parts (1 Kings 12), because it was dominated by the large tribe of Judah. The first time the word Jew is used in the Bible is during the exile (2 Kings 25:25), and may have been a term coined by the Babylonians or Persians to refer to the people in their midst who had come from the kingdom of Judah. By New Testament times, Jew was a common term, and it has remained in usage unto this day. Obviously, Abraham was never referred to by this term.
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The term Gentile is simply from the Latin word for “nation.” When the term Gentiles is used in Scripture, it means “the nations.” If a person is a Gentile, he or she is a member of one of the many nations in the world. When Jew and Gentile are juxtaposed, the contrast is between one who is a member of God’s chosen nation and one who is a member of one of the hundreds of other nations or ethnic groups not chosen for special blessing in the way that Israel was. In this context, Gentile simply means “not Jewish.”
Gentile might refer to that in Latin but the biblical word we must go on is "gôy" found first in Genesis:

2 And I will make of thee a great nation, Gen. 12:2.

It means "massing."

The Gentile (non-covenant) people derive from Ham and Japheth. Recall it was Noah that found grace in the eyes of God. Not his wife nor his sons. Just as God chose Jacob instead of Esau one might be Hebrew (both kids) but the distinction is covenant and non-covenant. Prior to Eber there is no mention of Gentile except to describe a "massing" of people as in Genesis 12:3.
Abraham started out as a member of one of the many nations or ethnic groups that were in existence at the time. (Of course, these are somewhat artificial distinctions, because all people came from Adam and Eve, and all people are related if the genealogy is traced back far enough. However, after Babel, people started to segregate into smaller groups and develop into distinctive ethnic groups, clans, and nations.) Abraham was living in Ur of the Chaldeans. While he was there, God called him:
Abram did not come from Gentiles (non-covenant) but from Shem and Noah who were in covenant and that is the distinction where God is concerned.
“The Lord had said to Abram, ‘Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you. I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you’” (Genesis 12:1–3).

At that point, Abraham was called and set apart for God’s purposes. He left his native country and people behind. His descendants would become the great nation of Israel, God’s chosen people, but the line had not been narrowed down yet. Abraham had several sons: Isaac, by his wife Sarah; Ishmael, by a slave of Sarah; and other sons with another wife after Sarah died. However, it was only Isaac who was the chosen one. Isaac had two sons, Jacob and Esau, and only Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel) was the chosen one. All of Jacob’s 12 sons were included as patriarchs in the nation of Israel and became the basis for the 12 tribes. It was at this point that the line had been finally set; however, the wives of Jacob’s sons were still from outside the family.

With the next generation of Jacob’s grandchildren, the descendants of Jacob became a distinct people group, and they were distinguished from the Egyptians among whom they were living as having all descended from one man named Israel. By the time of Exodus 1, they were recognized as a distinct nation.

Technically, no one was called a “Jew” before the exile; however, the people who became known as Jews were a distinct ethnic group by the time of Exodus 1. They were a distinct clan by the time of Jacob and his sons. Abraham was a Gentile, that is, a member of one of the many nations that had developed by his time. The Jews came from Abraham because he was chosen by God from among the nations to be the origin of a new nation. The Jews of Jesus’ day looked to Abraham (not Jacob/Israel) as the head of their race (see Matthew 3:9; Luke 3:8; John 8:39; Acts 13:26; Galatians 3:7). If one is thinking in these terms, it would not be wrong to think of Abraham as “the first Jew,” although that’s not technically correct.got ?
Abram was not chosen "from among the nations" for "nations" did not exist at the time. The covenant family line began with Adam:
  1. Adam: The first man, created by God.
  2. Seth: Adam and Eve's son, chosen to replace Abel after his death.
  3. Enosh: Seth's son.
  4. Kenan (Cainan): Enosh's son.
  5. Mahalalel: Kenan's son.
  6. Jared: Mahalalel's son.
  7. Enoch: Jared's son, who "walked with God" and was taken by God, avoiding death.
  8. Methuselah: Enoch's son, known for being the longest-lived person in the Bible.
  9. Lamech: Methuselah's son.
  10. Noah: Lamech's son, chosen by God to build the ark and survive the flood.
After the flood, the lineage continues:
  1. Shem: Noah's son, who was chosen to continue the covenant line.
  2. Arpachshad: Shem's son.
  3. Shelah: Arpachshad's son.
  4. Eber: Shelah's son.
  5. Peleg: Eber's son, whose name means "division," possibly indicating a significant event in his time.
  6. Reu: Peleg's son.
  7. Serug: Reu's son.
  8. Nahor: Serug's son.
  9. Terah: Nahor's son, and the father of Abraham.
  10. Abraham (Abram): Considered the father of the nation of Israel, he plays a crucial role in the covenant with God.
Those not in covenant are not called "nations" or "Gentile" ("gôy.") There was another word for "heathen" and "people." It's confusing but requires a little study. The word merely means "massing" and does not necessarily refer to Gentiles for no Gentiles come from out of Abraham.
 
All Hebrew saints that died may have gone there when they died. LOL, LOL, LOL, ERROR, Listen and Learn,
Genesis 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:" Genesis 3:23 "Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken." Genesis 3:24 "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."

here Keep is the Hebrew term,
H8104 שָׁמַר shamar (shaw-mar') v.
1. (properly) to hedge about (as with thorns), i.e. guard.
2. (generally) to protect, attend to, etc.

[a primitive root]
KJV: beward, be circumspect, take heed (to self), keep(-er, self), mark, look narrowly, observe, preserve, regard, reserve, save (self), sure, (that lay) wait (for), watch(-man).


now please show by scripture this protection has been removed........ I hope you go with the thief on the cross scenario, .... (smile)..... please do.

101G.
It doesn't necessarily have to be removed. God can place His dead/alive saints there and once in is guarded from detection. Nothing's changed.
 
Genesis 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:"
Gen 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent told her. 5“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

The serpent’s suggestion in Gen 3:5: that she would be like God, כֵּֽ is a Hebrew prefix, meaning "as/like”

If we go to Strong’s Concordance https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/gen/3/22/ss1/s_3022 at, for Gen 3:22: OF US has no Hebrew reference!! Yet in biblehub.com interlinear for Gen 3:22,
OF US is
4480 [e]
mim·men·nū,
מִמֶּ֔נּוּ

OF: Strong’s 4480 is a part of; hence (prepositionally), from or out of in many senses (as follows):--above, after, among, at, because of, by (reason of), from (among), that is, as a separation!

AND
OF: Brown-Driver-Briggs: מִ mim, Strong’s 4480; is a "preposition expressing the idea of separation", hence out of, from, on account of, off, etc. with verbs expressing (or implying) separation or removal, whether from a person or place, or in any direction, also from guilt, calamity, etc. thus to descend from, the idea of separation, away from, far from, out of, out of Egypt or far from...

How the early Rabbis decided this preposition of separation was in this case one of inclusion would seem to have been a theologically driven (ie, eisegesis) rather than a common usage of this word. In ordinary use, this preposition seems to say the man is become as one OUT FROM (AMONG) us, to know good and evil, a rather predictable statement about a sinner, rather than become as one OF us, knowing good and evil... Since 'knowing' contains the meaning of 'having a practical experience of,' I contend that GOD does not know any evil at all but knows all about it. Thus the notion of becoming like GOD by the practice of, the experience of, evil is just plain wrong.

LIKE GOD is not the same as LIKE ONE OUT OF OR MOVED FROM US though the English like GOD and like one of us makes them seem to be exactly the same!

Thus God is not saying they must be removed from the tree of life because they are like HIM but because their new knowledge by their experience of evil removes them from HIM ! a much more Christian interpretation of what happens to our relationship with GOD when we sin! Sinful evil people living forever in HIS creation would be anathema to the GOD who is Righteous!!

This verse does not support the idea that GOD is the repository of all knowledge of evil by experience but, though HE knows all about evil HE does NOT know the experience of evil as there is no evil in HIM.
 
Was Abraham a Jew or Gentile ?

The short answer is that Abraham was a Gentile who was chosen by God to be the ancestor of the Jewish people.

The term Jew is a shortened form of the word Judah, which was the name of one of the tribes of Israel, the tribe of David and of Jesus (Matthew 1:1). Judah was also the name of the southern half of the kingdom of Israel when it split into two parts (1 Kings 12), because it was dominated by the large tribe of Judah. The first time the word Jew is used in the Bible is during the exile (2 Kings 25:25), and may have been a term coined by the Babylonians or Persians to refer to the people in their midst who had come from the kingdom of Judah. By New Testament times, Jew was a common term, and it has remained in usage unto this day. Obviously, Abraham was never referred to by this term.

The term Gentile is simply from the Latin word for “nation.” When the term Gentiles is used in Scripture, it means “the nations.” If a person is a Gentile, he or she is a member of one of the many nations in the world. When Jew and Gentile are juxtaposed, the contrast is between one who is a member of God’s chosen nation and one who is a member of one of the hundreds of other nations or ethnic groups not chosen for special blessing in the way that Israel was. In this context, Gentile simply means “not Jewish.”

Abraham started out as a member of one of the many nations or ethnic groups that were in existence at the time. (Of course, these are somewhat artificial distinctions, because all people came from Adam and Eve, and all people are related if the genealogy is traced back far enough. However, after Babel, people started to segregate into smaller groups and develop into distinctive ethnic groups, clans, and nations.) Abraham was living in Ur of the Chaldeans. While he was there, God called him:

“The Lord had said to Abram, ‘Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you. I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you’” (Genesis 12:1–3).

At that point, Abraham was called and set apart for God’s purposes. He left his native country and people behind. His descendants would become the great nation of Israel, God’s chosen people, but the line had not been narrowed down yet. Abraham had several sons: Isaac, by his wife Sarah; Ishmael, by a slave of Sarah; and other sons with another wife after Sarah died. However, it was only Isaac who was the chosen one. Isaac had two sons, Jacob and Esau, and only Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel) was the chosen one. All of Jacob’s 12 sons were included as patriarchs in the nation of Israel and became the basis for the 12 tribes. It was at this point that the line had been finally set; however, the wives of Jacob’s sons were still from outside the family.

With the next generation of Jacob’s grandchildren, the descendants of Jacob became a distinct people group, and they were distinguished from the Egyptians among whom they were living as having all descended from one man named Israel. By the time of Exodus 1, they were recognized as a distinct nation.

Technically, no one was called a “Jew” before the exile; however, the people who became known as Jews were a distinct ethnic group by the time of Exodus 1. They were a distinct clan by the time of Jacob and his sons. Abraham was a Gentile, that is, a member of one of the many nations that had developed by his time. The Jews came from Abraham because he was chosen by God from among the nations to be the origin of a new nation. The Jews of Jesus’ day looked to Abraham (not Jacob/Israel) as the head of their race (see Matthew 3:9; Luke 3:8; John 8:39; Acts 13:26; Galatians 3:7). If one is thinking in these terms, it would not be wrong to think of Abraham as “the first Jew,” although that’s not technically correct.got ?

hope this helps !!!

Word of advice in witnessing to Jews.

Lets not get bogged down with details that only serve to confuse. It makes "gentile" Christians witnessing to Jews look stupid.
The Jews all know Abraham as the first Jew. That is, unless the Jew is a contrary intellectual nit picker, who is a know it all killjoy.

How the the word "Jew" was finally derived does not matter.

Like the first Americans were called "the colonists." Today? We can call them the first Americans.
Abraham, like the colonists, was the first Jew as seen in retrospect.

Abraham was the first Jew. For all Jews descend from Abraham.. Jews know this.

I was a Jew when I became saved. I am now a New Creation in Christ.

But, to the Jew, Paul was a Jew.

grace and peace ...............
 
post scripture to that effect please.

101G.
And the dead who die before Christ shall go to Eden (Psalm 151.)

Look Genius who spiritualizes in places where it's literal and cannot reason it out, if no man has ascended into heaven, then where else is there to go? Purgatory? Eden makes sense.
The true name of the place is Eden the Garden of God.
God's Garden. To be there would be to be in His Presence. Abraham's Bosom can also be Eden.
But the thing is two people have not died and Scripture cannot be broken but fulfilled that it is appointed unto man once to die, right? The two witnesses of Revelation 11 are killed and it these two are Enoch and Elijah then Scripture is fulfilled. Men die ONCE not twice which is what you'll have with John Baptist. And it cannot be Moses either. Men die ONCE. Hello?
 
Gen 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent told her. 5“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

The serpent’s suggestion in Gen 3:5: that she would be like God, כֵּֽ is a Hebrew prefix, meaning "as/like”

If we go to Strong’s Concordance https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/gen/3/22/ss1/s_3022 at, for Gen 3:22: OF US has no Hebrew reference!! Yet in biblehub.com interlinear for Gen 3:22,
OF US is
4480 [e]
mim·men·nū,
מִמֶּ֔נּוּ

OF: Strong’s 4480 is a part of; hence (prepositionally), from or out of in many senses (as follows):--above, after, among, at, because of, by (reason of), from (among), that is, as a separation!

AND
OF: Brown-Driver-Briggs: מִ mim, Strong’s 4480; is a "preposition expressing the idea of separation", hence out of, from, on account of, off, etc. with verbs expressing (or implying) separation or removal, whether from a person or place, or in any direction, also from guilt, calamity, etc. thus to descend from, the idea of separation, away from, far from, out of, out of Egypt or far from...

How the early Rabbis decided this preposition of separation was in this case one of inclusion would seem to have been a theologically driven (ie, eisegesis) rather than a common usage of this word. In ordinary use, this preposition seems to say the man is become as one OUT FROM (AMONG) us, to know good and evil, a rather predictable statement about a sinner, rather than become as one OF us, knowing good and evil... Since 'knowing' contains the meaning of 'having a practical experience of,' I contend that GOD does not know any evil at all but knows all about it. Thus the notion of becoming like GOD by the practice of, the experience of, evil is just plain wrong.

LIKE GOD is not the same as LIKE ONE OUT OF OR MOVED FROM US though the English like GOD and like one of us makes them seem to be exactly the same!

Thus God is not saying they must be removed from the tree of life because they are like HIM but because their new knowledge by their experience of evil removes them from HIM ! a much more Christian interpretation of what happens to our relationship with GOD when we sin! Sinful evil people living forever in HIS creation would be anathema to the GOD who is Righteous!!

This verse does not support the idea that GOD is the repository of all knowledge of evil by experience but, though HE knows all about evil HE does NOT know the experience of evil as there is no evil in HIM.
This is very interesting, especially when you said,
OF: Strong’s 4480 is a part of; hence (prepositionally), from or out of in many senses (as follows):--above, after, among, at, because of, by (reason of), from (among), that is, as a separation!
NOT saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this. do not "of" translates the genitive case of nouns, with various shades of meaning. Of these the subjective and objective are mentioned. so being LIKE God would it not be subjective, instead of Objective? for there is no God beside him. so Adam nor Eve would become a God, which violates scripture. so it would have to be subjective. now as for the experience she gained in knowledge was objective, For they knew they was naked. but the subjective reasoning to this knowledge was in disobedience, which caused the separation, SIN. not the EVIL. Evil is not sin, but the lack of UNDERSTANDING evil can cause one to sin. the devil is not sin, but he's EVIL, and without the Lack of God's Wisdom in his KNOWLEDGE one can sin without understanding it, hence the separation of fellowship, but not the separation of relationship. so what died was righteous fellowship between God and his creation. which was in plan to restore. and the reason why 101G say this is what you also said,
OF: Strong’s 4480 is a part of; hence (prepositionally), from or out of in many senses (as follows):--above, after, among, at, because of, by (reason of), from (among), that is, as a separation!
this "by (REASON OF), is very, very, interesting. and here's why. scripture, Romans 8:20 "For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,"
Made "Vanity" is the Hebrew word, using the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments is, G3153 ματαιότης mataiotes (ma-tai-o'-tees) n.
1. inutility.
2. (figuratively) transientness.
3. (morally) depravity.
[from G3152]
KJV: vanity
Root(s): G3152

1. inutility. means, useless; pointless.
but the second definition speaks volumes. 2. (figuratively) transientness. a person who is staying or working in a place for only a short time.

so, if this knowledge was retained only for a short period of TIME, now we can see why God did not want them to partake of the tree of life to live forever. which is intresting in what you said,
to know good and evil, a rather predictable statement about a sinner, rather than become as one OF us, knowing good and evil... Since 'knowing' contains the meaning of 'having a practical experience of,' I contend that GOD does not know any evil at all but knows all about it. Thus the notion of becoming like GOD by the practice of, the experience of, evil is just plain wrong.
but notice Adam and Eve was not sinners before they ate, only afterward.
This verse does not support the idea that GOD is the repository of all knowledge of evil by experience but, though HE knows all about evil HE does NOT know the experience of evil as there is no evil in HIM.
well he created EVIL, now knowing the experience? Exodus 32:14 "And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people."

Now MAN's Depravity. Jeremiah 18:11 "Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good." Jeremiah 18:12 "And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart."

101G.
 
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