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jeremiah1five
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Too much spiritualizing.
You go so deep your voice changes.
jeremiah1five
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Everything about salvation is a "Jewish" subject. Up until the destruction of the Temple the "Jewishness" of salvation was understood from the context of a Jewish mindset. Even the New Covenant writings were written to the Jew. The Gospels as well so that [Israel] may "believe this Jesus was their long-awaited Messiah." Everything in the "Gentile" understanding isn't always understood in the context of "Salvation is of the Jews" and many things in Jewish understanding has been stolen, borrowed, used and given a new understanding by Gentiles that is unmoored from Jewish thought.
Yes.
Correct. The belief of rapture was taught only about 160 years or so ago by a "Plymouth Brethren" named John Nelson Darby. Scofield picked it up and added to it and with his dispensationalism carried it further to pretty much what it is today.
God can do whatever He wants, but in my mind if He removes Israel's blindness - and He will - then Israel will need direction in those days and the two witnesses will be literal Jews (Israel will not heed any Gentiles) and they will do what Saul originally did before God blinded Israel and show through the Law, Psalms, and Prophets that this Jesus was their long-awaited Messiah and they will "mourn in Him whom they've pierced."
Not only that but if all Scripture has been disseminated with Gentile mindset these nearly 2000 years and if the Gentile Church is truly on the planet with Israel, and the two witnesses do exactly what I have said above, then this means there will be doctrinal correction presented and it will most likely be to correct Gentile beliefs about this "so-great salvation" and if what I say is true, and the Scripture is true that God has USED Gentiles to make His Bride Israel jealous, well, how would you feel knowing you've been used - by God or anyone? You won't like it. There's already a level of Jewish hatred coming from Gentile believers with a backdrop of Replacement Theology ingrained in Gentile doctrine, and if you'll notice in this country and around the world many peoples are supporting Hamas against Israel. Zechariah says God is going to bring EVERYONE against Israel in 'those days' - including Gentile Christians - and God does not defend Israel for Israel's sake, but for His Name's sake.
In Revelation it says Christ returns and His vesture is "dipped" in blood. The word means "stained." That would be the blood of the vanquished and those He literally destroys with His hands pouring out the wrath of God as King and Conqueror of the Jewish people and the world. Isaiah paints two portraits of the coming Redeemer of Israel. One is as Suffering Servant. That reality played out in an extreme. Now play out "Conqueror" to the extreme. Submission is a word that will rule the day. That day. It won't be pretty.
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101G
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GINOLJC, to all.
no, we all are to walk in the Spirit as well as worship in the Spirit. John 4:23 "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him." John 4:24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."
so what's wrong with Spirituality?
101G.
101G
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ERROR, this is why the Gospel was preached, not borrowed, or taken from Judaism, no, but made BETTER. for Judaism was only a shadow and type of things to come, which now is obsolete. no more animal sacrifices, and all those nonsenses and useless moral laws removed, and no more physical temple to make sacrifices and to worship. all now been done in Spirit and TRUTH.
and as for salvation, it was preached even before Israel became a Nation.
as said, the OT was only a shadow and type of things to come, and yes God had to straighten out Israel First. for the Promise was for all men, and not for the Jews only, for salvation is for all men. 1 John 4:14 "And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world." 1 John 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." hello....
now, as for hearing a Gentile, the apostle Paul held dual citizenship. an Israelite, (born) and Roman (in Knowledge)...... and the FACE of the Church changed in leadership when Paul placed Timonthy in a LEADERSHIP ROLE, as well as TITUS, (smile). and just like Peter he had to be convinced that God is no respecter of Persons. and this is evident, as Peter said to Captain Cornelius, and please NOTE: and his whole household of Gentiles occupance. for both, God gave visions to.
and again, the two witness, are NOT neither Jews, the Lord Jesus is not Jewish, (he's "OUT"), of the tribe of Juda and NOT "FROM", the tribe of Juda. who is of Israel, as with John the Baptist, Levi. now to be sure of the Lord Jesus, Hebrews 7:14 "For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood." so, our Lord sprang ..... "OUT" of Juda, and not, "FROM" Juda...... (smile).
YIKES!101G.
GeneZ
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Why are you so big on this "Jewish" thing?
Its an overemphasis as if you are having an obsession with it.
I am curious as to why you keep making it always into a Jewish thing.
I am asking that as a Jew from birth. Lived in Israel for a while. WHY?
Jews will have their future on the New Earth.
Christians will have their Home in Heaven.
We are not one and the same....
GeneZ
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It simply took that long to finally have the revelation of what it means revealed.
It does not mean it was invented by anyone. Might as well say the same thing for the Reformation then!
He has not removed the blindness of Jews yet. But, that means only of those Jews He will REMAIN being Jews for eternity.
But He does remove the blindness now for those Jews whom He has chosen to become a new creation in Christ!
I know that for a fact. I was born a Jew.
When I unknowingly believed in Christ my whole world was turned Topsy Turvy leaving me totally mystified and confused.
I was not brainwashed into expecting a change after accepting Christ.
God knew how to prevent that notion from being used against me and left me confused for a season.
I had an inner transformation that removed me from my old ways of comfortably relating to the world.
I was a changed person inside but could not know why. Could not know, because I did not know what
regeneration did to a person. For I had not been exposed to any Christian doctrine about regeneration,
and did not know that regeneration brings a real change within that takes place. For me it was not all joy.
It was quite painful and isolating... I could not longer relate to people as I had prior to regeneration.
How could I fake that? I was still a Jew as far as I was concerned.
When I went into the Army I had "Jewish" on my dog tag.
When reading and accepting the salvation message in the tract I was not expecting anything to happen to me
after accepting the message.
Then, out of nowhere, month or so later, the Lord gave me a powerful life changing dream/vision.
One that I had no way of understanding at the time I had it.. It was not until ten years after having
it given to me was I shown what it meant.
That dream/vision was about the Bible college that I later found myself attending.
I attended to become grounded in Christianity. Again, that took place ten years after having the vision.
And, I might add.
That Bible college did not exist when I was given that vision.
I thought I was still a Jew when the dream given to me and at the time did not know what to make of it.
I just simply knew it was something supernatural and for some reason accepted it.
When in the school ten years later I had to be to be reminded by the Holy Spirit how
I took that tract from someone on campus when in college.
That happened during the Viet Nam war era...
While walking to my next class I took the tract and simply decided to ask for salvation as presented in the tract.
After, I totally forgot about it. Not until it was brought back to remembrance years later while in the Bible college.
That was when it finally it all made sense why I had the vision and mysteriously found myself where I had been shown...
I do not understand why you are pushing such an UNBALANCED emphasis on Judaism over Christianity as you are.
For some reason, I have a feeling you were not even Jewish. That its some sort of over compensation at work in you.
"A false balance is an abomination to the LORD, but a just weight is his delight." Proverbs 11:1
In my opinion... you really would be helped by finding a good pastor-teacher....
I say that because too much you say leaps out of and away from the full council of God's Word.
Shalom.. grace and peace from my God ..............
jeremiah1five
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Nothing.
When applied correctly.
jeremiah1five
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It was immediate when the Trinity was revealed with the Advent of the Son, but it was in the Hebrew Scriptures all the time.
Darby was in error and it is a doctrine of man.
The Reformation was an act of God and it started with one man.
Then another, and another, and another, and...
It was a return to the Scripture. Rapture was a taking out of Scripture something not there. Same thing occurred with the JW's and Mormons. The 1800s saw an explosion of false doctrine and false 'churches.'
The Abrahamic Covenant is an eternal promise to Abraham and his seed. There is no requirement of faith, and it is a promise God will keep regardless of who He had and has to kill in the desert and thereafter. Because of His eternal Covenant and Promises He physically destroyed those that worshiped the golden calf, but because of His Covenant they are saved eternally.
There's a reason why Saul says, "and ALL Israel shall be saved."
Covenant is with Israel proper. The promises may have gone through Jacob, but Esau will be in glory with his grandfather Abraham just the same.
Interesting. Things made sense with me.
Christianity is Judaism Completed.
Christ began building His Church in Acts 2 with 3000 Jews. Then, He added to the Church daily such as should be saved. So, if 3000 is the median number then by weeks end 21,000 Jews were born-again and filled with the Holy Spirit. You should embrace your Jewish heritage. I honor you. And your military service. Thanks.
You know, I reached out to someone here for the eventual purpose to get to know them and pick their brain outside this forum about something the Lord, I believe, brought to my thinking. I wouldn't post it 'cold' unless I've tested it and got feedback. But it's so revolutionary I've never heard or read anyone come to such a conclusion as I have, and the funny thing is at least I can today say 51% (at least) it is correct. It just simmers in my mind until the Lord adds, or if it wasn't the Lord, remove it from consideration.
Yeah, I know. But God is bringing more light of understanding to His Word in these last days. I'm just one of many He's doing this with. I only know in part. And He's given me command to 'speak' on that which He's given me. Being in the minority is not too bad. Every great doctrine we have God gave to one man. Then another, and another, until we have major doctrine.
GeneZ
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Johann
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7:14 "our Lord was descended from Judah" This is another perfect active indicative. The verb "descend" means "sprang from" and is used forHebrews 7:14 "For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood." so, our Lord sprang ..... "OUT" of Juda, and not, "FROM" Juda...... (smile).
1. the rising of the sun (cf. Matt. 5:45)
2. the movement of the planets
3. plant shoots
4. metaphorically, for human descent (cf. Zech. 6:12; Isa. 11:1; Jer. 23:5-6)
Here it refers to Jacob's prophecies about his sons in Genesis 49 (esp. 49:10).
"Judah" Jesus was from the Davidic royal line of Judah (cf. Gen. 49:8-12; 2 Sam. 7:12-16; Isa. 9:6,7). Convincing Jews that Jesus was high priest was so difficult because He was not of the priestly tribe of Levi like Moses and Aaron.
7:15 "if" This is a first class conditional sentence which is assumed to be true from the author's perspective or for his literary purposes. Another priest has come and is from the line of Melchizedek.
7:16
NASB"not on the basis of a law of physical requirement"
NKJV"not according to the laws of a fleshly commandment"
NRSV"not through a legal requirement concerning physical descent"
TEV"not by human rules and regulations"
NJB"not in virtue of a law of physical descent"
Jesus' priestly authority does not rest in what tribe/family He descended from, but from His possession of eternal, indestructible life (i.e., Melchizedek's parents are not named in Genesis 14 and the word "forever" is used in Ps. 104:4). Jesus has the endless life of God (as well as the oath and promise of God).
NASB, NRSV,
NJB"an indestructible life"
NKJV"an endless life"
TEV"a life that has no end"
This seems to be related to the rabbinical exegetical (Midrash) implication from Ps. 110:4b that Melchizedek had no parents and, therefore, was eternal (cf. Heb. 7:6,8).
7:17 "For it is attested of Him" This is a quote from the Septuagint of Ps. 110:4 (as is Heb. 7:21).
According to Levitical law, our Lord had no title to the priesthood at all. As to the flesh, He sprang from the tribe of Judah, not from that of Levi; but this does not in any way militate against His Priesthood since it is of an altogether different order. He is consecrated, not in accordance with a legal enactment, but in all the might of resurrection “after the power of an endless life.” As Priest forever after the order of Melchisedec, He has brought in a new and better regime than that of the law. And so the commandment going before has been set aside. It was weak and unprofitable in the sense that it could not accomplish that for which it was proposed; namely, to give man a righteous standing before God, inasmuch as the flesh or the carnal mind is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So it was useless as a ground for blessing. It made nothing perfect; therefore it had to give way to the introduction of a better hope by which we draw nigh to God. This better hope is founded upon the principle of grace of which Melchisedec is the exemplification. And so by divine oath Jesus has become the surety of a better covenant.
In Heb_7:23-28 the contrast is between the dying priests of the old order and the ever living High Priest at God’s right hand. There was a constant succession of priests in olden days, for death was continually taking its toll of them. But our Lord’s Priesthood is unchangeable because He continues “unto the ages,” the strongest expression in the Greek language for eternity.
Shalom
Johann
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Abraham was circumcised. But Abraham was not a Jew.
Abraham descended from Noah, Shem and Eber. Abraham was an Eberite. Abraham became the father of one branch of the Semitic race. Abraham’s father was Terah. Terah lived in Chaldea and was an idolater. The word “Jew” in the Bible has a double meaning. Abraham’s grandson, Jacob (Israel), had twelve sons.
The fourth son was Judah. Speaking of the Jews, as a race they were Judahites. But when Jesus Christ said, “salvation is of the Jews”, He was not thinking of just one of the twelve tribes. The Israelites were all Jews by religion. Galatians 1:14.
Jesus Christ was a Jew by race and by religion.. He is called the “Lion of the tribe of Judah.” Revelation 5:5.
Fallen humans all stand before the Bible (i.e., God's revelation) and are judged by it. It is beyond our mental abilities, but we must be able to comprehend it in order to be able to properly respond to it. Believers interpret it differently (some poorly), but all are responsible for the truths they understand. It reveals God; it reveals human rebellion; it reveals divine redemption. Our eternities are related to these truths, not the how and when of creation and the events of Genesis 1-11. They are primarily the Who and why, which are so crucial.
God have mercy on us all (and He has)!
Abraham descended from Noah, Shem and Eber. Abraham was an Eberite. Abraham became the father of one branch of the Semitic race. Abraham’s father was Terah. Terah lived in Chaldea and was an idolater. The word “Jew” in the Bible has a double meaning. Abraham’s grandson, Jacob (Israel), had twelve sons.
The fourth son was Judah. Speaking of the Jews, as a race they were Judahites. But when Jesus Christ said, “salvation is of the Jews”, He was not thinking of just one of the twelve tribes. The Israelites were all Jews by religion. Galatians 1:14.
Jesus Christ was a Jew by race and by religion.. He is called the “Lion of the tribe of Judah.” Revelation 5:5.
Fallen humans all stand before the Bible (i.e., God's revelation) and are judged by it. It is beyond our mental abilities, but we must be able to comprehend it in order to be able to properly respond to it. Believers interpret it differently (some poorly), but all are responsible for the truths they understand. It reveals God; it reveals human rebellion; it reveals divine redemption. Our eternities are related to these truths, not the how and when of creation and the events of Genesis 1-11. They are primarily the Who and why, which are so crucial.
God have mercy on us all (and He has)!
jeremiah1five
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Just being biblical.
I obsess my Lord. The Lord is Jewish. He hails from the tribe of Judah. Judah hails from Jacob. Jacob hails from Isaac and Isaac from Abraham.
Anyone who claims to be born-again Christian and hates or otherwise is indifferent towards the Hebrew/Jewish people that profession is a lie. One cannot love Christ and His God and hate to Jewish people. And I'd be the first to call out such person a liar.
Just being biblical. I am grateful and thankful that through God's covenant with Abraham that I am blessed. As a presumed Gentile and born-again I know my place at the Lord's table and Marriage Supper. And the fact that I am born-again and received the Promised Spirit and that I can cry "Abba, Abba," and that through their exile I may have Hebrew blood in me somewhere in my family line does not escape me.
I have every indication I may have root in the tribe of Benjamin. Maybe Israel lives in me.
Jews will have pre-eminence everywhere.
jeremiah1five
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No. I certainly do not look like your picture next to your name.
Whew!
101G
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again, addressing the OP. no Israel will be along side the Gentiles during the Church age .... which we're in now. the Gentiles was only to wait for the Gospel to come, which it did.
Revelation 11:2 "But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months."
42 month is 3 1/2 years the lifetime of the ministry of the TWO witnesses. the Lord Jesus and John the Baptist.
for 3 1/2 years the Gentiles is to be without word of God, Matthew 10:5 "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: Matthew 10:6 "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
the Gentiles was to wait for the Gospel for the Jews rejected the Messiah, but God already knew it. Isaiah 42:1-4 and Isaiah 51:5 Isaiah 42:1 "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles." Isaiah 42:2 "He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street." Isaiah 42:3 "A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth." Isaiah 42:4 "He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law."
Isaiah 51:4 "Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people." Isaiah 51:5 "My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust."
and as for the holy city, (which is directed at the religious elders/Leaders, who sit in Moses set, shall they, (the two witness), tread under foot forty and two months. here tread is the Greek word
G3961 πατέω pateo (pa-te'-ō) v.
to trample.
{literally or figuratively}
[from a derivative probably of G3817 (meaning a “path”)]
KJV: tread (down, under foot)
another word for "trample" when used as a verb, "To conquer or be victorious over", is put an end to. again Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." this word "to cease" means "put an end to", or "bring to an end" and this is what the Lord Jesus did. put or brought and end to the sacrifice and the oblation. THIS HAS THE TWO WITNESSES WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. not only did the Lord Jesus brought an end to sacrifice, he overturned the moneychangers' tables, healed on the sabbath, ect.... he just as "trample" states, "put an end to".
this no doubt what Daniel was speaking about in the 42 months or three and a half weeks. Daniel 9:26 "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined."
Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
what did Daniel say? Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
the Street is called straight, and the pathway is holiness. Isaiah 35:8 "And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein."
what did God say? Isaiah 51:5a "My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people"
the two witnesses, John the Baptist, (the Elijah to come), and the Lord Jesus, (the LAW GIVER as was with Moses).
101G.
jeremiah1five
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Not John the Baptist. It is appointed unto man once to die.
Elijah and Enoch are the only two people who have not died. But they will in Revelation 11 thus fulfilling Scripture which CANNOT be broken.
Revise your understanding.
101G
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no, you just need to read the bible. listen and Learn. Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:2 "For by it the elders obtained a good report." Hebrews 11:3 "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." Hebrews 11:4 "By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh." Hebrews 11:5 "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God." Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Hebrews 11:7 "By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith." Hebrews 11:8 "By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went." Hebrews 11:9 "By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:" Hebrews 11:10 "For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God." Hebrews 11:11 "Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised." Hebrews 11:12 "Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable." Hebrews 11:13 "These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth."
all have died, including Enoch who was translated as Elijah was. translated is TRANSPORTED. it is the Greek word,
G3346 μετατίθημι metatithemi (me-ta-tiy'-thee-miy) v.
1. to transfer.
2. (literally) to transport.
3. (by implication) to exchange.
4. (reflexively) to change sides.
5. (figuratively) to pervert.
[from G3326 and G5087]
KJV: carry over, change, remove, translate, turn
Root(s): G3326, G5087
note definition #2. transport. other words "MOVED" from one part of the planet to another so their lives would not be taken where they was at. this is nothing NEW. it happen in the New testament too. Philip and the Ethiopian Eunuch, ...Listen, and Learn. Acts 8:34 "And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?" Acts 8:35 "Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus." Acts 8:36 "And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?" Acts 8:37 "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." Acts 8:38 "And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him." Acts 8:39 "And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing." Acts 8:40 "But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea."
Here, "Caught up" is the Greek word,
G726 ἁρπάζω harpazo (har-pa'-zō) v.
to seize.
{in various applications}
[from a derivative of G138]
KJV: catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force)
Root(s): G138
where have we seen this word used at before? 1 Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:" 1 Thessalonians 4:17 "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
and in Elijah case he was caught up or transported in the AIR, the First heaven, and not the third heaven where God dwells.
please read your bibles with UNDERSTANDING, via the Holy Spirit.
101G.
GeneZ
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Actually, Abraham was a Gentile who *became* the very first Jew.
Became the first Jew when he circumcised himself by God's command.
All Jews by race descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Abraham is the first Jew.
Abraham was the father of the Jewish race.
Moses was the father of the Jewish nation.
When God introduced Himself to Moses at the burning bush, this is how He addressed Himself.
Then he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.”
At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God." Exodus 3:6
grace and peace ...............
jeremiah1five
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13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; Gen. 14:13.
Gentiles are not Hebrew and Hebrews are not Gentile.
jeremiah1five
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Yes, but two men have not died in faith: Enoch and Elijah.
Revise your understanding and bring it into compliance with Scripture.
