Just because a gentile becomes Born-Again......

[jeremiah1five]

Sorry that interpretation is found nowhere in scripture

Rev 20:7 says nothing about Jesus Reigning in Jerusalem. Says nothing about gentile Christians surrounding Israel

You have read all that into the passage








There is a catching up of living believers at the time of Christ as seen above





Do you read? I stated living believers are caught up

Scripture reads the same

Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord

I stated nothing about a rapture where living saints are caught up in a secret coming of Christ previous to the tribulation to keep them out of it

No I do not support Hamas

and most of what you state above is simply false

Do you believe the scriptures found in the New covenant

They clearly discount any scenario of Christ reigning from Jerusalem a 1000 years after his return also well as your fantasies about gentile Christians

Being King of the Jews His capital is Jerusalem. Where else do you think the throne of David is? Washington D.C?

 

[jeremiah1five]

You beg the question

Many translations disagree with your claim

other translations

Isaiah 45:7 (ESV) — 7 I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the LORD, who does all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (LSB) — 7 The One forming light and creating darkness, Producing peace and creating calamity; I am Yahweh who does all these.

Isaiah 45:7 (NIV) — 7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (UASV) — 7 I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and create calamity, I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (NASB 2020) — 7 The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating disaster; I am the LORD who does all these things.

BTW did you see the word natural is your own citation

That refers to disasters and calamity

You can't get doctrine from a translation. You need to go to the original languages.
And "evil" is defined with a moral component and calamity has no moral component. Evil does not come in an inanimate object. TV is not evil. There is no morality applied to TV. It is neutral.
Man, however, was created "evil" since there is only ONE God, there is NONE like Him, and He gives His glory to NO ONE. So, if man possessed NO DEIFIC ATTRIBUTES, then he was created fallen short of the glory of God.
The word for that is "sin." which means "missing the mark."
What is the "mark" missed?
The glory of God.

There in only One Person who can stand before a Holy God unblameable and that is the Son. He was holy, He was sinless, He was righteous and did not sin. Thus, man sinned because he was a sinner. The second Adam proves this.
Get your doctrine in line with Scripture. And if you don't know something asking questions is permitted.

 

[jeremiah1five]

There is a word for that. They call it framing

Galatians 3:29 (ESV) — 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

You deny scripture as found in the New testament










Pst that verse did not support you



Ephesians 2:11–22 (KJV 1900) — 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


before

That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
after
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Apparently you deny the New Testament and harbor resentment again those the New Testament states are fellow citizens of the household of God

Your problem is that you don't know Hebrew and biblical history nor the culture of the Jewish people and that's because you are learning from Gentiles. That's the same as being black and learning German history and culture from a Mexican.
First thing to understand is that the Hebrew Scriptures cover from Genesis to Revelation since everything was written by a Jew (OT) and a Jewish Christian (NT) TO and FOR Jews (OT) and Jewish Christians (NT.)
Second thing to know is the Word of God is written to and for believers ONLY. God's Word is represented as a pearl in the bible and not even God casts His pearls written by Jews and Jewish Christians to swine (Gentiles.)
When you accept this truth then you are on a rock foundation and God can build a mansion there.
Holy things for a holy people, God says.

The problem is that you are taking your understanding of the Jewish religion, history, and culture from Gentiles. To understand Jewish history and culture you need to go to a Jew. And the great heresy of Gentiles after Gentiles destroyed the Jewish Temple is that Gentiles were already enemies of the Jews and they saw the destruction of the Jewish Temple as judgment from God and unmoored true, biblical Christianity from its Hebrew roots and created a NEW RELIGION, one that was separated from its Hebrew/Jewish roots.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Ephesians 2:11–3:6 (ESV) — 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit. 1 For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner of Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2 assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6 This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

The are heirs to all the promises

If you knew the Scripture, you would recognize several mentions of the OT Scripture in this passage and several mentions of Hebrew history, culture, concepts, and ideas. But you don't.
Saul wrote to Jewish Christians at Ephesus. IF you are taking Saul's words as meaning there are Gentiles in the Jewish Covenants and that Gentiles - even though Christ died for the covenant people of God - and Saul is teaching Gentiles are in the covenants of God then Saul is teaching contrary to Scripture and is lying to believers everywhere.
So, either rabbi Saul is teaching contrary to Scripture or your understanding and Gentile belief of a Gentile inclusion into the Jewish covenants and its benefits, then you are in error and your doctrine is in opposition to God's Word.
Here's a clue. Saul is not teaching contrary to the Hebrew Scriptures. The error is in what you've been taught as a Gentile being taught Gentile theology, a theology that in many places contrary to the Hebrew Scripture.

 

[TomL]

If you knew the Scripture, you would recognize several mentions of the OT Scripture in this passage and several mentions of Hebrew history, culture, concepts, and ideas. But you don't.
Saul wrote to Jewish Christians at Ephesus. IF you are taking Saul's words as meaning there are Gentiles in the Jewish Covenants and that Gentiles - even though Christ died for the covenant people of God - and Saul is teaching Gentiles are in the covenants of God then Saul is teaching contrary to Scripture and is lying to believers everywhere.
So, either rabbi Saul is teaching contrary to Scripture or your understanding and Gentile belief of a Gentile inclusion into the Jewish covenants and its benefits, then you are in error and your doctrine is in opposition to God's Word.
Here's a clue. Saul is not teaching contrary to the Hebrew Scriptures. The error is in what you've been taught as a Gentile being taught Gentile theology, a theology that in many places contrary to the Hebrew Scripture.

Do you read?

This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

 

[TomL]

Your problem is that you don't know Hebrew and biblical history nor the culture of the Jewish people and that's because you are learning from Gentiles. That's the same as being black and learning German history and culture from a Mexican.
First thing to understand is that the Hebrew Scriptures cover from Genesis to Revelation since everything was written by a Jew (OT) and a Jewish Christian (NT) TO and FOR Jews (OT) and Jewish Christians (NT.)
Second thing to know is the Word of God is written to and for believers ONLY. God's Word is represented as a pearl in the bible and not even God casts His pearls written by Jews and Jewish Christians to swine (Gentiles.)
When you accept this truth then you are on a rock foundation and God can build a mansion there.
Holy things for a holy people, God says.

The problem is that you are taking your understanding of the Jewish religion, history, and culture from Gentiles. To understand Jewish history and culture you need to go to a Jew. And the great heresy of Gentiles after Gentiles destroyed the Jewish Temple is that Gentiles were already enemies of the Jews and they saw the destruction of the Jewish Temple as judgment from God and unmoored true, biblical Christianity from its Hebrew roots and created a NEW RELIGION, one that was separated from its Hebrew/Jewish roots.

Your problem is you do not know or believe the New Testament

Galatians 3:29 (ESV) — 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

You deny scripture as found in the New testament

Ephesians 2:11–22 (KJV 1900) — 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


before

That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
after
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Apparently you deny the New Testament and harbor resentment again those the New Testament states are fellow citizens of the household of God

Romans 9:23–26 (NASB 2020) — 23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon objects of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, 24 namely us, whom He also called, not only from among Jews, but also from among Gentiles, 25 as He also says in Hosea: “I WILL CALL THOSE WHO WERE NOT MY PEOPLE, ‘MY PEOPLE,’ AND HER WHO WAS NOT BELOVED, ‘BELOVED.’ ” 26 “AND IT SHALL BE THAT IN THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAID TO THEM, ‘YOU ARE NOT MY PEOPLE,’ THERE THEY SHALL BE CALLED SONS OF THE LIVING GOD.”

A quote from Hosea

Hosea 2:23 (ESV) — 23 and I will sow her for myself in the land. And I will have mercy on No Mercy, and I will say to Not My People, ‘You are my people’; and he shall say, ‘You are my God.’ ”

Seems your ethnic cleansing is out of step with God's plans

Acts 15:16–18 (NET) — 16 ‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the fallen tent of David; I will rebuild its ruins and restore it, 17 so that the rest of humanity may seek the Lord, namely, all the Gentiles I have called to be my own,’ says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from long ago.

A quote from the septuagint


Amos 9:11 (Brenton LXX En) — 11 In that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and will rebuild the ruins of it, and will set up the parts thereof that have been broken down, and will build it up as in the ancient days:

 

[TomL]

You can't get doctrine from a translation. You need to go to the original languages.
And "evil" is defined with a moral component and calamity has no moral component. Evil does not come in an inanimate object. TV is not evil. There is no morality applied to TV. It is neutral.
Man, however, was created "evil" since there is only ONE God, there is NONE like Him, and He gives His glory to NO ONE. So, if man possessed NO DEIFIC ATTRIBUTES, then he was created fallen short of the glory of God.
The word for that is "sin." which means "missing the mark."
What is the "mark" missed?
The glory of God.

There in only One Person who can stand before a Holy God unblameable and that is the Son. He was holy, He was sinless, He was righteous and did not sin. Thus, man sinned because he was a sinner. The second Adam proves this.
Get your doctrine in line with Scripture. And if you don't know something asking questions is permitted.

Sorry your own quoted lexicon spoke of evil (natural or Moral)

"from [#7489] (ra`a`); bad or (as noun) evil (natural or moral)"

You were self impeached

hello

PS There is nothing in the passage which relates to anyone being unblameable

Read this!

Ecclesiastes 7:29 (ESV) — 29 See, this alone I found, that God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes.

 

[TomL]

Being King of the Jews His capital is Jerusalem. Where else do you think the throne of David is? Washington D.C?

Sorry but once again there is nothing in the passage which stated Jesus was reigning physically in Jerusalem or that Gentile Christians surround Israel or Jerusalem where Christ is

your theology is warped by unreasonable bias

 

[jeremiah1five]

Do you read?

This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

This says nothing about being in covenant.
But it does say about being in the body and that body is Christ.
And again, Gentiles is referring to either proselytes and/or God-Fearers.
This also refers to spiritual blessings not natural blessings such as the promise of land given to Abraham and his seed.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Ephesians 2:11–3:6 (ESV) — 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit. 1 For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner of Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2 assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6 This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

The are heirs to all the promises

So, the Church is going to receive land? Where is this land?
No, the Gentiles being referred here are either proselytes and/or God-Fearers, and these are spiritual promises in Christ's body not covenant.
Can you please provide the Scripture of these promises?

 

[TomL]

So, the Church is going to receive land? Where is this land?
No, the Gentiles being referred here are either proselytes and/or God-Fearers, and these are spiritual promises in Christ's body not covenant.
Can you please provide the Scripture of these promises?

The earth

Matthew 5:5 (ESV) — 5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Romans 4:13 (ESV) — 13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.

 

[TomL]

This says nothing about being in covenant.
But it does say about being in the body and that body is Christ.
And again, Gentiles is referring to either proselytes and/or God-Fearers.
This also refers to spiritual blessings not natural blessings such as the promise of land given to Abraham and his seed.

Heirs to the same covenant promises

Ephesians 2:11–3:6 (ESV) — 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit. 1 For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner of Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2 assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6 This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

The are heirs to all the promises

 

[jeremiah1five]

Your problem is you do not know or believe the New Testament

Galatians 3:29 (ESV) — 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

You deny scripture as found in the New testament

Ephesians 2:11–22 (KJV 1900) — 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


before

That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
after
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Apparently you deny the New Testament and harbor resentment again those the New Testament states are fellow citizens of the household of God

Romans 9:23–26 (NASB 2020) — 23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon objects of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, 24 namely us, whom He also called, not only from among Jews, but also from among Gentiles, 25 as He also says in Hosea: “I WILL CALL THOSE WHO WERE NOT MY PEOPLE, ‘MY PEOPLE,’ AND HER WHO WAS NOT BELOVED, ‘BELOVED.’ ” 26 “AND IT SHALL BE THAT IN THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAID TO THEM, ‘YOU ARE NOT MY PEOPLE,’ THERE THEY SHALL BE CALLED SONS OF THE LIVING GOD.”

A quote from Hosea

Hosea 2:23 (ESV) — 23 and I will sow her for myself in the land. And I will have mercy on No Mercy, and I will say to Not My People, ‘You are my people’; and he shall say, ‘You are my God.’ ”

Seems your ethnic cleansing is out of step with God's plans

Acts 15:16–18 (NET) — 16 ‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the fallen tent of David; I will rebuild its ruins and restore it, 17 so that the rest of humanity may seek the Lord, namely, all the Gentiles I have called to be my own,’ says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from long ago.

A quote from the septuagint


Amos 9:11 (Brenton LXX En) — 11 In that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and will rebuild the ruins of it, and will set up the parts thereof that have been broken down, and will build it up as in the ancient days:

I believe the New Covenant Scriptures except I am not tainted with a Gentile theft-theology that has supplanted Israel in the things of God and have sought to steal everything given to Israel through covenant and prophecies.
The New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation (except the personal letters to Timothy) were written by Jewish Christians TO and FOR other Jewish Christians and the focus of the subject matter in most all of the letters and gospels is to testify of Israel's Messiah and the Hebrew people, their culture, their religion and their people, a discussion of thew New Covenant in order to make sense of the era Israel of twelve tribes find themselves in. And through rabbis like Saul, and fishermen like Peter, James, and John, and Andrew, these men write ABOUT the New Covenant to make sense and understand the things taking place among the Jewish people with regard to their covenants and the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There are NO NEW covenants in the New Covenant writings but much discussion concerning the New Covenant and what Messiah means in light of the existing Mosaic and Abrahamic Covenants of the Jewish nation.
Four gospels written with the goal to inform the Hebrew people that this Jesus was their long-awaited Messiah, Redeemer, and King; and to describe the personal fulfillment of the Mosaic Covenant and what it means to them then and today. But in order to bring in Gentiles God found it necessary to judge His people and again scatter them to the four winds later to be gathered and with a returning King remove their blindness and send two witnessed prophets to lead and guide Israel to their Messiah in preparation to receive Him as prophesied in their Scripture.

And these are the differences between you and me. I accept the Hebrew Scripture from Genesis to Revelation and accept Israel's Messiah as their Lord and King, who will sit on the throne of David at Jerusalem, give Israel their land and cleanse all Gentiles from their Promised Land, and the King of the Jews will reign for one thousand years and deal decisively with the Gentiles. Where I see Israel as the main event and people you see Gentiles as the main event and people. Where I see the covenants in Scripture as between God and the Hebrews, you see the covenants as between God and Gentiles with Israel excluded and replaced.
And there are other differences between you and me.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Sorry but once again there is nothing in the passage which stated Jesus was reigning physically in Jerusalem or that Gentile Christians surround Israel or Jerusalem where Christ is

your theology is warped by unreasonable bias

And othe LORD my God shall come,
And all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day,
That the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD,
Not day, nor night:
But it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day,
That living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
Half of them toward the former sea,
And half of them toward the hinder sea:
In summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth:
In that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem:
And it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place,
From Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto gthe corner gate,
And from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction;
But Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people
That have fought against Jerusalem;
Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet,
And their eyes shall consume away in their holes,
And their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day,
That a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them;
And they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour,
And his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem;
And the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together,
Gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse,
Of the mule, of the camel, and of the ***,
And of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations
Which came against Jerusalem
Shall even go up from year to year
To worship the King, the LORD of hosts,
And to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up
Of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem
To worship the King, the LORD of hosts,
Even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, ethat have no rain;
There shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen
That come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt,
And the punishment of all nations
That come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses,
HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD;
And the pots in the LORD’s house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts:
And all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein:
And in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
Zech. 14:5-21

Let's start here. All these things take place in Israel and Jerusalem. Christ sits on the throne of David in Jerusalem and everyone 'goes up' to Jerusalem to worship the LORD of Hosts at Jerusalem where His House and throne is.
Canaanites were non-Hebrew people and tribes that occupied Canaan when God commanded Joshua to take the land. Instead, Christ will remove/cleanse the land of Israel of ALL Gentiles and Gentiles will be under One Lord and One Law and will go up to Jerusalem to obey one of three Feasts in the Torah of God. If they refuse to go (and this is because Satan is let out of his prison and deceives the Gentile nations to gather them to surround Israel in preparation to attack but fir will come down from heaven and consume them ALL.
So, let's start with the prophecies of Zechariah. Let's see if you are honest with Scripture.

 

[jeremiah1five]

The earth

Matthew 5:5 (ESV) — 5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Romans 4:13 (ESV) — 13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.

Sorry, but the Hebrews/Jews are promised the heathen and the earth. Your replacement theology is in error to the truth of Scripture.


1 Why do the heathen rage,
And the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder,
And cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh:
The Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath,
And vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king
Upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree:
The LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son;
This day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me,
And I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance,
And the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

The above is promised to Israel.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron;
Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings:
Be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear,
And rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry,
And ye perish from the way,
When his wrath is kindled but a little.
Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
Psalm 2:1–Ps 3.

These are prophecies given to Israel. Make distinction. Your error is showing.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Heirs to the same covenant promises

Ephesians 2:11–3:6 (ESV) — 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit. 1 For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner of Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2 assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6 This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

The are heirs to all the promises

You really do not understand, do you?
Well, I am going to leave you to your error because you think you know it all and that your corrupt English translations and your replacement theology couples with Constantinian Gentile teaching is what you lean on instead of Scripture.

So, what is the promise in Christ?
And what "body" is Saul referring to? It can't be Israel because as rabbi and Pharisee he knows the Abrahamic Covenant is between God and Abe's seed (descendants) and Saul would not teach anything that violates God's Word, so this means your re-interpretation of Scripture that is just bursting with a Gentile mindset is where the heresy is, but not in Saul's words.

Do you even understand "Christ?"
Start there.

 

[TomL]

You really do not understand, do you?
Well, I am going to leave you to your error because you think you know it all and that your corrupt English translations and your replacement theology couples with Constantinian Gentile teaching is what you lean on instead of Scripture.

So, what is the promise in Christ?
And what "body" is Saul referring to? It can't be Israel because as rabbi and Pharisee he knows the Abrahamic Covenant is between God and Abe's seed (descendants) and Saul would not teach anything that violates God's Word, so this means your re-interpretation of Scripture that is just bursting with a Gentile mindset is where the heresy is, but not in Saul's words.

Do you even understand "Christ?"
Start there.

You really do not believe the New Testament do you?

Heirs to the same covenant promises

Ephesians 2:11–3:6 (ESV) — 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit. 1 For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner of Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2 assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6 This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

The are heirs to all the promises

 

[TomL]

Sorry, but the Hebrews/Jews are promised the heathen and the earth. Your replacement theology is in error to the truth of Scripture.


1 Why do the heathen rage,
And the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder,
And cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh:
The Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath,
And vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king
Upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree:
The LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son;
This day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me,
And I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance,
And the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

The above is promised to Israel.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron;
Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings:
Be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear,
And rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry,
And ye perish from the way,
When his wrath is kindled but a little.
Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
Psalm 2:1–Ps 3.

These are prophecies given to Israel. Make distinction. Your error is showing.

Sorry all that believe are heirs of Abraham

Romans 4:13 (ESV) — 13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.

Galatians 3:29 (ESV) — 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

BTW the passage you quote pertains to Christ

 

[TomL]

And othe LORD my God shall come,
And all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day,
That the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD,
Not day, nor night:
But it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day,
That living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
Half of them toward the former sea,
And half of them toward the hinder sea:
In summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth:
In that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem:
And it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place,
From Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto gthe corner gate,
And from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction;
But Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people
That have fought against Jerusalem;
Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet,
And their eyes shall consume away in their holes,
And their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day,
That a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them;
And they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour,
And his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem;
And the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together,
Gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse,
Of the mule, of the camel, and of the ***,
And of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations
Which came against Jerusalem
Shall even go up from year to year
To worship the King, the LORD of hosts,
And to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up
Of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem
To worship the King, the LORD of hosts,
Even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, ethat have no rain;
There shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen
That come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt,
And the punishment of all nations
That come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses,
HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD;
And the pots in the LORD’s house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts:
And all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein:
And in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
Zech. 14:5-21

Let's start here. All these things take place in Israel and Jerusalem. Christ sits on the throne of David in Jerusalem and everyone 'goes up' to Jerusalem to worship the LORD of Hosts at Jerusalem where His House and throne is.
Canaanites were non-Hebrew people and tribes that occupied Canaan when God commanded Joshua to take the land. Instead, Christ will remove/cleanse the land of Israel of ALL Gentiles and Gentiles will be under One Lord and One Law and will go up to Jerusalem to obey one of three Feasts in the Torah of God. If they refuse to go (and this is because Satan is let out of his prison and deceives the Gentile nations to gather them to surround Israel in preparation to attack but fir will come down from heaven and consume them ALL.
So, let's start with the prophecies of Zechariah. Let's see if you are honest with Scripture.

You ignored this

The earth

Matthew 5:5 (ESV) — 5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Romans 4:13 (ESV) — 13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.

Israel broke the covenant

All believers are now of the jerusalem above

Galatians 4:21–31 (ESV) — 21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23 But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24 Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written, “Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear; break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor! For the children of the desolate one will be more than those of the one who has a husband.” 28 Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30 But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31 So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.

and will enter into the new jerusalem

Revelation 21:1–27 (ESV) — 1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” 5 And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” 6 And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. 7 The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” 9 Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, 11 having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12 It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed— 13 on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 15 And the one who spoke with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city and its gates and walls. 16 The city lies foursquare, its length the same as its width. And he measured the city with his rod, 12,000 stadia. Its length and width and height are equal. 17 He also measured its wall, 144 cubits by human measurement, which is also an angel’s measurement. 18 The wall was built of jasper, while the city was pure gold, like clear glass. 19 The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with every kind of jewel. The first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst. 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made of a single pearl, and the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass. 22 And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb. 23 And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24 By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, 25 and its gates will never be shut by day—and there will be no night there. 26 They will bring into it the glory and the honor of the nations. 27 But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

 

[TomL]

I believe the New Covenant Scriptures except I am not tainted with a Gentile theft-theology that has supplanted Israel in the things of God and have sought to steal everything given to Israel through covenant and prophecies.
The New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation (except the personal letters to Timothy) were written by Jewish Christians TO and FOR other Jewish Christians and the focus of the subject matter in most all of the letters and gospels is to testify of Israel's Messiah and the Hebrew people, their culture, their religion and their people, a discussion of thew New Covenant in order to make sense of the era Israel of twelve tribes find themselves in. And through rabbis like Saul, and fishermen like Peter, James, and John, and Andrew, these men write ABOUT the New Covenant to make sense and understand the things taking place among the Jewish people with regard to their covenants and the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There are NO NEW covenants in the New Covenant writings but much discussion concerning the New Covenant and what Messiah means in light of the existing Mosaic and Abrahamic Covenants of the Jewish nation.
Four gospels written with the goal to inform the Hebrew people that this Jesus was their long-awaited Messiah, Redeemer, and King; and to describe the personal fulfillment of the Mosaic Covenant and what it means to them then and today. But in order to bring in Gentiles God found it necessary to judge His people and again scatter them to the four winds later to be gathered and with a returning King remove their blindness and send two witnessed prophets to lead and guide Israel to their Messiah in preparation to receive Him as prophesied in their Scripture.

And these are the differences between you and me. I accept the Hebrew Scripture from Genesis to Revelation and accept Israel's Messiah as their Lord and King, who will sit on the throne of David at Jerusalem, give Israel their land and cleanse all Gentiles from their Promised Land, and the King of the Jews will reign for one thousand years and deal decisively with the Gentiles. Where I see Israel as the main event and people you see Gentiles as the main event and people. Where I see the covenants in Scripture as between God and the Hebrews, you see the covenants as between God and Gentiles with Israel excluded and replaced.
And there are other differences between you and me.

The difference as far as I can tell you is you really do not believe the New Testament and subvert it to the old covenant

Heirs to the same covenant promises. fellow citizens, members of the same household

Ephesians 2:11–3:6 (ESV) — 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit. 1 For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner of Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2 assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6 This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

They are heirs to all the promises

it seems the hostility in your heart has not been killed but lives on

so you would annul the work of Christ in making peace and breaking down the wall of hostility and ever seek to rebuild