Did Jesus Shed His Humanity at the Ascension?
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sethproton
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You harp on ADam and Eve, why ignore other verses I gave you where we are all created in God's image, but all don't go to heaven?
sethproton
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I gave you two scriptures. You reject them or just refuse to read them?
Diserner
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sethproton
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Should be easy if you are listening,
a free choice refers to something you do
image of God is a gift and a condition, not a choice at all
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Diserner
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sethproton
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If you respond to the logic of what I just said it would prove you are listening.
unfortunately what you missed is that I never said there are two verses that show that free choice is not the same as image of God. you got confused and came up with someting I never said.
But i just explained it to you anyway, So go back and read it
sethproton
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We are not told directly in the scriptures what happened to His body, though we do know He left it behind on the cross. and it was gone when they opened the tomb? do you know anything else about specifically His body between death and resurrection?
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Diserner
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You directly responded with this.
I will not dialogue with a dishonest person.
Perhaps you are just confused and not thinking clearly.
Either way, irrationality is impossible to dialogue with.
sethproton
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Here's your job. where did I talk about two verses? I did do that.
But they were not about proving the difference between image of God and the concept of free choice.
by the way I struggle to find anything in this forum could probably use help navigating
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sethproton
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so where's the two verse? This post is confusing
praise_yeshua
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There is no need to make such claims against me..I simply shared the truth. It doesn't matter to me if He literally dematerialized right in front of them. My God can do anything. I just told you what the word expresses. Neither views establishes what YOU want to establish. I just go where the information leads.
praise_yeshua
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You are avoiding the choice you have made. If you don't know them stop making the claims you are making.
Thomas handled the wounds of Jesus Christ's body. Yes. We know what happened to His Body.
sethproton
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All the best translations say he vanished. Where does thT LEAD? to him becoming invisible, and another scripture states he is invisible. Col 1:15 1Tim 1:17
What choice am I avoiding, Please state it in a clear way relevent to this chat. keep i short and specific
praise_yeshua
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I don't have to accept what you declare are the best translations. You can't discuss the word itself because you lack the knowledge. I can.
You are avoiding clearly stating that the human body of Jesus Christ perished. Is that short enough for you?
You know you are making a mistake with your claim above that we don't know what happened after the cross to the body of Christ. We know from the Scriptures that Thomas handled the wounded body of Jesus Christ after His body was Resurrected.
You can face God with such nonsense. It is your choice but don't disconnect yourself from reality by pretending we don't know. We do. You're avoiding the obvious.
praise_yeshua
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I can't say that he has ever done anything else but live in conjecture while denying everything he says. At times, It is ridiculous how he tries to squirm his way out of what he says.
Diserner
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civic
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No it doesn’t state He is invisible more unbiblical nonsense. It’s God the Father who us invisible and dwells in unapproachable light whom Jesus said no man has ever seen except Himself. You once again have twisted Gods word to say something it does not say.
hope this helps !!!
Complete
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'Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself:
handle Me, and see;
for a spirit hath not flesh and bones,
as ye see Me have.
And when He had thus spoken,
He shewed them His hands and His feet.'
(Luke 24:39-40)
Hello @sethproton,
The resurrection body of our Lord Jesus Christ consists of flesh and bone, and not flesh and blood.
Also in 1 Corinthians 15, we are told that the human body at the resurrection is changed. Corruption and mortality are exchanged for incorruption and immortality.
'Now this I say, brethren,
that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
.. Behold, I shew you a mystery;
.... We shall not all sleep, (in death)
...... but we shall all be changed,
........ In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,
.......... at the last trump:
............ for the trumpet shall sound,
.............. and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
................ and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
.. and this mortal must put on immortality.
.... So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption,
...... and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
........ then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
.......... Death is swallowed up in victory.'
(1 Cor. 15:50-54)
Praise God!
civic
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Amen !
