Did Jesus Shed His Humanity at the Ascension?

praise_yeshua said:
I know what you believe. I answered your question. I have no idea what you're trying to establish with such questions.
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Trying to say Jesus is no longer human , that He is no longer the son of man, that He is a spirit like He was prior to the Incarnation like the Father is spirit. It’s what the JWs believe about Jesus that He shed His body like a garment. Like a reptile shed it’s skin, a serpent that leaves its old skin behind except in this case it’s Jesus human body, His humanity etc….

That means He is no longer our High Priest, our Prophet, King, Mediator , Son of God or Sin of man. That means all the future promises about the sin of man returning are false promises of God .

We can see where this slippery slope leads into a massive mudslide once the bodily Resurrection, Ascension and 2nd Coming is denied.

It makes a complete mockery out of 1 Corinthians 15, the gospel and the entire book of Hebrews.

hope this helps !!!
 
civic said:
He was not hiding Himself like hide and seek. He prevented them from recognizing Him like the verses say happened. Why are you making things up that are not in the Bible or the scriptures I quoted ?
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I am curious, what could you claim I made up? i give Bible answers the best i can. So whats made up?
 
civic said:
Trying to say Jesus is no longer human , that He is no longer the son of man, that He is a spirit like He was prior to the Incarnation like the Father is spirit. It’s what the JWs believe about Jesus that He shed His body like a garment. Like a reptile shed it’s skin, a serpent that leaves its old skin behind except in this case it’s Jesus human body, His humanity etc….

That means He is no longer our High Priest, our Prophet, King, Mediator , Son of God or Sin of man. That means all the future promises about the sin of man returning are false promises of God .

We can see where this slippery slope leads into a massive mudslide once the bodily Resurrection, Ascension and 2nd Coming is denied.

It makes a complete mockery out of 1 Corinthians 15, the gospel and the entire book of Hebrews.

hope this helps !!!
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really Civic, where did i say Jesus pealed his skin like a snake.
What I said is that He departed it at the cross/ which we all do in death.
David and others left their bodies and they existed as ?what? till Jesus lifted them from hell, and they still did not get a new body then. or do you disagree thay Jesus on the cross left His body when He died.
 
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sethproton said:
really Civic, where did i say Jesus pealed his skin like a snake.
What I said is that He departed it at the cross/ which we all do in death.
David and others left their bodies and they existed as ?what? till Jesus lifted them from hell, and they still did not get a new body then. or do you disagree thay Jesus on the cross left His body when He died.
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Civic is present the "technical" aspects of the teaching.

I believe I've asked you this before but here goes again......

Did the body that Jesus supposedly "left behind" corrupt? Did His flesh become "worm poop"?
 
sethproton said:
really Civic, where did i say Jesus pealed his skin like a snake.
What I said is that He departed it at the cross/ which we all do in death.
David and others left their bodies and they existed as ?what? till Jesus lifted them from hell, and they still did not get a new body then. or do you disagree thay Jesus on the cross left His body when He died.
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What happened to His body ? You claim in heaven He has no human body so where did it go ?
 
praise_yeshua said:
The Koine word used is difficult to discern completely. It is a negative combined with the context of sight. It literally means that they didn't see him anymore. It might just be an indication of not announcing His departure.
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and that;s how you read that text? He didm't announce his departure, and you don't think they He would have been followed everywhere he went, be reasonanable, He disappeared.
You are arguing downhill from your doctrine. You already know what you want it to say so you force the scripture to say it
 
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sethproton said:
and that;s how you read that text? He didm't announce his departure, and yoou don't think they would hae followed him everywhere he went, be reasonanable, He disappeared
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You are arguing downhill feom your doctrine to sripture. You know what you want to be the truth so you are forcing the scripture to say it.
 
Maurice said:
I think the answer to the question is, no Jesus did not shed his humanity at the Ascension.

19 So then the Lord Jesus, after He had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and He sat down at the right hand of God. [Ps. 110:1.]20 And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord kept working with them and confirming the message by the attesting signs and miracles that closely accompanied [it]. Amen (so be it). Mk 16:19–20.

The Ascension is a discrete element of Christ the mediator. It marks his entry into supreme authority over the creation. The Ascension is, I think, a subject richer and more instructive than is commonly recognized. A description of the event occurs in only two places in the New Testament, both written by Luke (Luke 24:50-51, Acts 1:6-11) but the New Testament refers to it in many places and it is also foreshadowed in the Old Testament.

The dramatic departure of the risen Christ from His earthly, bodily ministry among His followers. Since His birth in Bethlehem by the miracle of the *Incarnation, Jesus had lived physically on earth. But forty days after the Resurrection, His earthly ministry ceased with His ascension into heaven . To a large extent the Ascension was for the benefit of Jesus’ followers. They could no longer expect His physical presence. They must now wait for the promised Holy Spirit through whom the work of Jesus would continue.Jesus’ departure into heaven was a literal, physical, bodily ascension in His resurrected body.

Stephen and Paul both reported seeing Jesus in bodily form after His ascension. The Ascension marked the beginning of Christ’s intercession for His followers at the right hand of God. There He makes continual intercession for all believers . Although Christ is not physically present with His people today, He is no less concerned for them or less active on their behalf. Christians enjoy peace, hope, and security because Christ is their advocate with the Father. It is as the exalted Lord that Jesus sent or “poured out” the Holy Spirit upon His church, with His gifts for believers.

Heaven’s strategy determined that the presence of Jesus would be replaced by the presence of the Holy Spirit, who could be everywhere at the same time. Since Pentecost until today, Jesus’ followers now enjoy the presence of the Spirit and the operation of the Spirit’s gifts through them, as the church pursues the mission Jesus ordered. As a result of His ascension, Jesus exercises His heavenly reign at the right hand of the Father as Lord of the church.

This reign will last until His *Second Coming, when He will return to the earth as the reigning Messiah, announced as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Finally, the ascension of Christ is the pledge of His Second Coming:

“This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven” Acts 1:11

Jesus will return to earth—literally and physically—in bodily form just as He ascended into heaven. He's coming back!
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People seem to overlook the fact that man was created in God's image. Adam chose to rebel against God and chose the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. Jesus comes as the "Last Adam" to give humanity the opportunity to choose again. Jesus obeyed God perfectly. He represents humanity in obedience as Adam represents fallen man in unrighteous rebellion. So yes, Jesus is still both man and God (the "Last Adam" and the "Second Man").
 
Gideon300 said:
People seem to overlook the fact that man was created in God's image. Adam chose to rebel against God and chose the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. Jesus comes as the "Last Adam" to give humanity the opportunity to choose again. Jesus obeyed God perfectly. He represents humanity in obedience as Adam represents fallen man in unrighteous rebellion. So yes, Jesus is still both man and God (the "Last Adam" and the "Second Man").
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Amen
 
sethproton said:
You are arguing downhill feom your doctrine to sripture. You know what you want to be the truth so you are forcing the scripture to say it.
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No that would be you since Jesus is a man , the son of man, Man is body, soul and spirit and was a body prior to having a soul/spirit. So the bosy came before the soul/spirit was in man. The body is part of being a man, a human. There is one mediator between God and man the MAN, Christ Jesus. He is eternally both the son of man and the Son of God having the nature of man and the nature of God. Christianity 101,Bible Basics 101, Gospel 101, Salvation 101.

hope this helps !!!
 
civic said:
He is eternally both the son of man and the Son of God having the nature of man and the nature of God. Christianity 101,Bible Basics 101, Gospel 101, Salvation 101.
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I think most of us would agree as well when MAN that is the saints of God receive their resurrection body it will be an upgrade from what it is now. We will still be of the mankind race or of humanity. Jesus still is now as well and not sure why our other friend can't see this.
 
Gideon300 said:
People seem to overlook the fact that man was created in God's image. Adam chose to rebel against God and chose the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. Jesus comes as the "Last Adam" to give humanity the opportunity to choose again. Jesus obeyed God perfectly. He represents humanity in obedience as Adam represents fallen man in unrighteous rebellion. So yes, Jesus is still both man and God (the "Last Adam" and the "Second Man").
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Some people who are created in God's image are going to hell. So what is that image that thru unbelief you secure hell?
 

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