Your Views on The Trinity

[MTMattie]

You are jumping from one Bible to the next both written in different times concerning different people. One is the Old Testament addressed to the Jews and the Other is the New Testament.

Nice try. No cigar.

The fact is that there have been two who offer salvation. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS OLD TESTAMENT OR NEW.

You deny Jesus is God. Yet He offers salvation in the new testament. He does no hand it off with some comment... A few Scriptures from above.

1 John 4:14​

the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior
our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

John 4:42
the Savior of the world.”
but in order that the world might be saved through him.
if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord you will be saved.
Christ is the head of the church, is himself its Savior.
“Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”​

of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:​

our Savior Christ Jesus, ​

Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,​

Jesus, himself, was not visibly active in the Old Testament. God the Father was.

So two from the Godhead offer salvation.

If we believe what God said in one administration and carry it into another administration that was on a different principle, we will be taking what is true for one time, and using it to contradict what is also true for another time. When we mix them all together, by jumbling the whole Bible together: Law, Gospel, Grace, Judgment, Glory, Jew, Gentile, and the Church of God, we will be very confused in our understanding of the truth of God’s Word.

What is written directly to the Jews, belongs to and is for the Jews. What is written directly to the Gentiles, belongs to and is for the Gentiles. What is written directly to the Church of God, belongs to and is for the Church of God. What does God mean when He tells us that the visions shown to Isaiah was concerning Judah and Jerusalem? It was not addressed to us or written concerning us, but it was addressed to and concerning Judah and Jerusalem. It would be dishonest for the Church of God to interpret to the Church of God what God said concerns Israel.

 

[MTMattie]

The Bible does not see that there's not two of you when you're married. If it did we would have Scripture like husbands love yourself instead of love your wives.

So what? Since when dopes common man matter in anything ? We are talking about what God sees. We are talking about who God is.

Common man is so dense he cannot see the forest for the trees or understand what is plainly understood.

You are so like Nicodemus that when it is explained to you , you simply cannot grasp.

IF you cannot understand... meaning that you deny what was Holy Scripture in "the two shall become one flesh"...

How much more would YOU be confused even if it was written out in a baptism something like... Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, our great God.

YOU still would not believe because YOU either do not want to or you have been brainwashed.

Sad!

 

[dwight92070]

Folks keep giving me this a lot saying only God can forgive sins...

When I ask for a verse on that in the New Testament I am often given...

Mark 2:7
Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Do folks realize such a verse is not doctrine, but rather what the unbelievers said. Let that sink in. For doctrine folks are posting what the unbelieving Jews said.

Obviously men can forgive each other and we are commanded to. However, even if we're forgiven for a wrong done to another person, we STILL need God's forgiveness. Finally then - ONLY GOD can forgive sins - the unbelievers, in this case, ARE CORRECT. Ultimate and final forgiveness and cleansing from our sins comes from only ONE source - 2 Corinthians 5:19 " ... God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, ..."

So you tell me. Who's doing the forgiving here? God or Christ?

 

[MTMattie]

Obviously men can forgive each other and we are commanded to. However, even if we're forgiven for a wrong done to another person, we STILL need God's forgiveness. Finally then - ONLY GOD can forgive sins - the unbelievers, in this case, ARE CORRECT. Ultimate and final forgiveness and cleansing from our sins comes from only ONE source - 2 Corinthians 5:19 " ... God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, ..."

So you tell me. Who's doing the forgiving here? God or Christ?

@Peterlag, @dwight92070

dwight92070,

So you tell me. Who's doing the forgiving here? God or Christ?

Both, for Christ is God.

Mark 2:10 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)