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Why are Calvinists so mean ?
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He looks frightened not mean
civic
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Talk about mean we see the connection with Hatred and Calvinism.
MacArthur in the gospel according to God says :
We must remember that sin did not kill Jesus; God did. The suffering servants death was nothing less than a punishment administered by God for the sins committed by others.
Piper says in the passion of the Christ :
The ultimate question to who killed Jesus is God did. Its a staggering thought . Jesus was His Son.
Grudem in his Systematic Theology :
As Jesus bore the guilt of our sin alone,God the Father, the Almighty Creator, the Lord of the universe, poured out on Jesus the fury of his wrath: Jesus became the object of the intense hatred of sin and vengeance against sin which God had patiently stored up since the beginning of the world.
Calvin says in his commentary on Gal 3:13 :
"He could not cease to be the object of his Father’s love, and yet he endured his wrath. For how could he reconcile the Father to us, if he had incurred his hatred and displeasure? We conclude, that he “did always those things that pleased” (John 8:29) his Father. Again, how would he have freed us from the wrath of God, if he had not transferred it from us to himself? Thus, “he was wounded for our transgressions,” (Isaiah 53:5,) and had to deal with God as an angry judge."
So calvin taught the Father killed/murdered the Son as do many other calvinist theologians.
Talk about hate that takes the cake, just the opposite of love according to Scripture.
And its only the sect of calvinism that promotes such hate from the Father to the Son. Murder is hate, killing the innocent is hate. They hated Him without a cause declares Scripture. If they hated Me they will hate you. satan is the hater, the murderer the liar but calvin turns God into a liar with that false doctrine of the Father killing/murdering His Son
hope this helps !!!
MacArthur in the gospel according to God says :
We must remember that sin did not kill Jesus; God did. The suffering servants death was nothing less than a punishment administered by God for the sins committed by others.
Piper says in the passion of the Christ :
The ultimate question to who killed Jesus is God did. Its a staggering thought . Jesus was His Son.
Grudem in his Systematic Theology :
As Jesus bore the guilt of our sin alone,God the Father, the Almighty Creator, the Lord of the universe, poured out on Jesus the fury of his wrath: Jesus became the object of the intense hatred of sin and vengeance against sin which God had patiently stored up since the beginning of the world.
Calvin says in his commentary on Gal 3:13 :
"He could not cease to be the object of his Father’s love, and yet he endured his wrath. For how could he reconcile the Father to us, if he had incurred his hatred and displeasure? We conclude, that he “did always those things that pleased” (John 8:29) his Father. Again, how would he have freed us from the wrath of God, if he had not transferred it from us to himself? Thus, “he was wounded for our transgressions,” (Isaiah 53:5,) and had to deal with God as an angry judge."
So calvin taught the Father killed/murdered the Son as do many other calvinist theologians.
Talk about hate that takes the cake, just the opposite of love according to Scripture.
And its only the sect of calvinism that promotes such hate from the Father to the Son. Murder is hate, killing the innocent is hate. They hated Him without a cause declares Scripture. If they hated Me they will hate you. satan is the hater, the murderer the liar but calvin turns God into a liar with that false doctrine of the Father killing/murdering His Son
hope this helps !!!
Exactly. And the crucifixion was both hate and murder. Hate and murder planned and determined by the Father. Brought about by His own hand.
Obadiah
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Best argument I've ever heard against Calvinism keep up the good work.
Acts 4:27,28. Your problem.is with scripture not Calvinism.
Determined, planned, brought about by His hand.
civic
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So you agree with Mac and Calvin that the Father murdered His Son.
Woe to those who call evil good.
Aeliana
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The Bible declares that “God is love” (1 John 4:8, 16). This statement is not just a phrase, but a profound truth that reveals the very nature of God. It means that God’s essence is love, and everything He does is motivated by love.
The Bible’s Description of Love
The Bible defines love as patient, kind, not envious, not boastful, not proud, not rude, not self-seeking, not easily angered, and keeps no record of wrongs (1 Corinthians 13:4-8a). This is the kind of love that God has for us, and it is the kind of love that we are called to have for others.
The Greatest Expression of God’s Love
The greatest expression of God’s love is seen in John 3:16, which states, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” This verse shows that God’s love is not just a feeling, but a sacrificial act. He gave His only Son to save us from sin and its consequences.
God’s Love is Not Limited
God’s love is not limited to a specific group of people or a particular time period. It is a universal love that extends to all people, past, present, and future. Romans 5:8 says, “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”
Conclusion
God is love, and His love is the foundation of our relationship with Him. It is the motivation behind His actions, and it is the source of our salvation. As believers, we are called to respond to God’s love by loving Him and loving others. May we reflect His love to the world and bring glory to His name.
civic
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Yes it’s worse than the jihads
civic
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Amen
Planned and determined by God. Brought about by His hand.
civic
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Acts 4:27 28. Planned and determined by God. Brought about by His hand.
Obadiah
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You're leaving out the Hate murder part and you put in earlier. Describes Calvinism perfectly just ask Servetus, Oh wait you can't calvin burn him at the steak. Talk about mean. He was so mean he got kicked out of Geneva in May 1538.
Calvin burned him at the stake? LOL
Planned and determined by God. Brought about by His hand.
Obadiah
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Calvinists believe that, at the beginning of time, God selected a limited number of souls to grant salvation and there's nothing any individual person can do during their mortal life to alter their eternal fate.
So why was the cross even necessary?
Planned and determined by God, brought about by His hand. Acts 4:27,28
Planned and determined by God, brought about by His hand.
Not going for the lame attempt to change to topic
Obadiah
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It is the same topic.
Calvinists believe that, at the beginning of time, God selected a limited number of souls to grant salvation and there's nothing any individual person can do during their mortal life to alter their eternal fate.
Then why does God need to hate and to murder in order to accomplish his Plan?
No, it's not the same topic. Obviously you wish to ignore Acts 4:27,28.
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