Freed from : Calvinism-TULIP-5 points Hyper-Calvinism

[Eternally-Grateful]

Really? So you bear no responsibility for Christ's death? Interesting

wow. talk about twisting ones words.

I take responsiobility for my sin, do you?

Then your in trouble. We all are. We don't not get what we rightly deserve.

No one will

But again, God will not force it on you

We deny because we are not fatalists

yes you Are, You state God chose who will be saved, and they have no say in the matter, and God choses who will be damned, and they have no say..

that is fatalism 101

. Do you believe God is omniscient? If so you are also a fatalist.

God determining based on ones free will is not fatalism my friend..

Define fatalism.

I just did

 

[Presby02]

wow. talk about twisting ones words.

I take responsiobility for my sin, do you?

No one will

But again, God will not force it on you

yes you Are, You state God chose who will be saved, and they have no say in the matter, and God choses who will be damned, and they have no say..

that is fatalism 101

God determining based on ones free will is not fatalism my friend..

I just did

Yup, that has nothing to do with what you said.

No one says God uses force.

God has every right to choose who He will save and who He will not save. We are blessed that He saves anyone at all.

I asked for you to define fatalism for me. Your dodging

Where does the Bible say God determines based on your free will? That is a clear violation of God's aseity.

 

[GodsGrace]

Do you know what he means? LOL

Yes!!

 

[GodsGrace]

I agree. The problem is they do not say what you claim you say.

My point stands. Not every last person has been invited. It's hard to be invited if you never recieve a invitation.

Also, as has been rightly pointed out, Romans one, CONTEXTUALLY, has nothing to do with the gospel.

Difficult to converse with someone who believes Abraham HEARD THE GOSPEL....
the Good News.

YOU brought up that billions are going to hell because they never heard the gospel.
I countered by stating that, even though the gospel was not always present....
GOD WAS.

And I proceded to post Romans 1:18-20 to show that God has ALWAYS revealed Himself to mankind
and that man has ALWAYS been able to either accept or reject God.

THIS is WHY no one will stand before God with any good excuse.
There IS NO EXCUSE because man has always known about God.

Here's what is necessary for salvation:

1. Accept God - in whatever way He reveals Himself to you.
2. Obey God.

That's it.
Simple.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Yup, that has nothing to do with what you said.

actually it had everything to do with what I said.

as usual. You have a failure to understand what people say because your trying to look through a doctrinal lense

No one says God uses force.

You do..

even though you do not say it word for word.

Deny it all you want.. It will nto make it a fact

God has every right to choose who He will save and who He will not save. We are blessed that He saves anyone at all.

Yeah he does. and he chose to do his will

he died for the world (everyone)
He chose that those who see and believe will be saved.. and never lost.

I agree with soverignty and I agree with Gods will

I just do not think your teaching lines up with Gods will

I asked for you to define fatalism for me. Your dodging

I did In basic terms

yes you Are, You state God chose who will be saved, and they have no say in the matter, and God choses who will be damned, and they have no say..

that is fatalism 101

so now once again, you are seen as a false accuser of one of Gods children

Where does the Bible say God determines based on your free will? That is a clear violation of God's aseity.

whoever believes

chose this day who you will follow

yuo do not see because you do not believe

its all over the place

show me the word trinity..

 

[atpollard]

Difficult to converse with someone who believes Abraham HEARD THE GOSPEL....
the Good News.

Galatians 3:8 [ESV] And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed."

Did Abraham hear the gospel?