Who is Jesus?

[101G]

John did not get your memo when he called the Word a "He' or "Him" multiple times. The "it" pronoun that you're referring to is Christ's attribute of Light. Christ's light is not a person, the Word (Christ) is a person.

Light is Wisdom. and God is wisdom. and God is a PERSON. scriptures. Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."
Light here is not NATURAL LIGHT as the sun produce. Light Here is WISDOM, the Spirit, the PERSON who is God.
LIGHT: H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.
Root(s): H215

now Natural LIGHT made on day 4.
Light: H215 אוֹר 'owr (ore) v.
1. to be luminous.
2. (causative) to make luminous.
{literally and metaphorically}
[a primitive root]
KJV: X break of day, glorious, kindle, (be, en-, give, show) light (-en, -ened), set on fire, shine.

see the difference? now notice definition #2 in the Light : H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) ... 2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.). see that word "happiness" another word or words that is synonymous to it? answer, REJOICE and DELIGHT. let's see it.

Proverbs 8:22 "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old." Proverbs 8:23 "I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was." Proverbs 8:24 "When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water." Proverbs 8:25 "Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:" Proverbs 8:26 "While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world." Proverbs 8:27 "When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:" Proverbs 8:28 "When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:" Proverbs 8:29 "When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:" Proverbs 8:30 "Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;" Proverbs 8:31 "Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men."

101G.

 

[e v e]

God, His Feminine Spirit and Christ.

 

[101G]

There are three Beings.

that statement by itself is polytheistic in Nature. there is ONLY "ONE" Being, and everything else is his creation/creatures.

101G.

 

[e v e]

that statement by itself is polytheistic in Nature. there is ONLY "ONE" Being, and everything else is his creation/creatures.

101G.

no it is not. You have been trained to that idea.

Oneness is the evil realm concept. shows zero generosity and is utterly satanic.

 

[e v e]

Gods sons and daughters Are.Not.Creatures.

that is trained into you, bullied into you and is pure Evil as a concept.

creatures cannot rule with Christ.

And His actual real sons will!

 

[e v e]

that statement by itself is polytheistic in Nature. there is ONLY "ONE" Being, and everything else is his creation/creatures.

101G.

yawn. no... that idea you have is pure plato nonsense. pagan to the core.

 

[TomL]

yawn. no... that idea you have is pure plato nonsense. pagan to the core.

Actually it is Old Testament theology

 

[101G]

no it is not. You have been trained to that idea.

Oneness is the evil realm concept. shows zero generosity and is utterly satanic.

well show proof by scripture that there are more than one being.

101G.

 

[TomL]

well show proof by scripture that there are more than one being.

101G.

She is teaching polytheism and calling monotheism satanic.

 

[Olde Tymer]

And His actual real sons will

Christianity's supreme being has only one paternal descendant. (John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, Heb 11:17, 1John 4:9)
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[jeremiah1five]

Christianity's supreme being has only one paternal descendant. (John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, Heb 11:17, 1John 4:9)
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And WHO is that?

 

[101G]

Christianity's supreme being has only one paternal descendant. (John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, Heb 11:17, 1John 4:9)
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the terms Father and Soin are not biological identifiers . Father means "CREATOR" and "MAKER" of all things, (the old creation). Son, is the REDEEMER/SAVIOUR, and BUILDER of his own HOUSE, (the New Creation). the same one person, the Holy Spirit. personal Name JESUS. the almighty.

101G.

 

[e v e]

Christianity's supreme being has only one paternal descendant. (John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, Heb 11:17, 1John 4:9)
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This poster informed me that he blocked me... however I will reply anyway..
that the whole point is that God wants sons, and that the sons who are the 144k
will rule With Christ...

This takes nothing away from Christ our Deity that He does this..
nor does it supplant Him in any way... it reflects His Love...
and that with Him the sons will rebuild eden paradise as the new creation.
And in the same way Adam had dominion over paradise,
so will the sons.

 

[Waylon]

They didn't pierce Jehovah. Jesus is not Jehovah. The Father is Jehovah.

Jesus and the Father are one. John 10:30

 

[101G]

Jesus and the Father are one. John 10:30

Correct, Jesus is the ONE TRUE GOD, who many in error calls Jehovah. and yes he was pierced. Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

101G.

 

[TibiasDad]

They didn't pierce Jehovah. Jesus is not Jehovah. The Father is Jehovah.

Jehovah is the one speaking, and said “They will look on me, the one they have pierced”. He speaks in the first person, thus, since Jesus is the one who was pierced, it is Jesus who refers to himself.

Then the speaker goes to third person saying, “and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son”, which indicates that the Father is now speaking.

Note also that the statements above are a singular statement, which show a plurality within a singular whole. The dual perspectives and speakers in a singular sentence mirrors the idea of multiple persons within a singular being. Two members of the Trinity speaking a singular sentence. A unified plurality!


Doug

 

[e v e]

Jesus and the Father are one. John 10:30

they are two beings... Christ is the son.
The father is His father

Christ has His fathers nature..

 

[e v e]

Correct, Jesus is the ONE TRUE GOD, who many in error calls Jehovah. and yes he was pierced. Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

101G.

God is IEUE.

 

[Keiw1]

Jesus and the Father are one. John 10:30

They are one in purpose--Jesus is commanded by his God and Father--If Jesus does not obey he falls out of Gods love( John 15:10-14) same for the followers, they must obey Jesus to remain in his love.
Jesus lived to do his Fathers will and only taught what the Father commanded him to teach.= One in purpose.

 

[Keiw1]

Jehovah is the one speaking, and said “They will look on me, the one they have pierced”. He speaks in the first person, thus, since Jesus is the one who was pierced, it is Jesus who refers to himself.

Then the speaker goes to third person saying, “and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son”, which indicates that the Father is now speaking.

Note also that the statements above are a singular statement, which show a plurality within a singular whole. The dual perspectives and speakers in a singular sentence mirrors the idea of multiple persons within a singular being. Two members of the Trinity speaking a singular sentence. A unified plurality!


Doug

No its not Jehovah saying he was pierced. Jesus was pierced, Jehovah was in heaven.