Who is Jesus?

The Jews would not have considered Jesus a threat, but insane if he had walked around saying he was God. But it was a threat for Jesus to claim to be the Messiah of God and also walk around doing miracles. Jesus had not been claiming to be God in the flesh and this is why the Jews never asked him at his trial if he was God in the flesh, but instead they asked him about what he had been claiming to be, which was the Messiah. Mark 14:61-62 records the High Priest asking “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?" And Jesus said "I am.” The High Priest tore his garments and said he deserved to be put to death when Jesus stated he was the Messiah. So we see that the Jews correctly assessed that Jesus had been claiming to be the Christ, and that Jesus indeed said he was the Christ, and also that the Jews thought his claim was worthy of the death penalty.

The supposed “dual nature” of Christ is never stated in the Bible and contradicts the Bible and the laws of nature that God set up. Nothing can be 100% of two different things. Jesus cannot be 100% God and 100% man, and that is not a “mystery” but it's a contradiction and a talk of nonsense. A fatal flaw in the “dual nature” theory is that both natures in Jesus would have had to have known about each other. The Jesus God nature would have known about his human nature, and (according to what the Trinitarians teach) his human nature knew he was God, which explains why Trinitarians say Jesus taught that he was God. The book of Hebrews is wrong when it says Jesus was “made like his brothers in every respect” if Jesus knew he was God (Hebrews 2:17). Jesus was not made like other humans in every way if Jesus was 100% God and 100% human at the same time. In fact, he would have been very different from other humans in many respects.
 
The Jews would not have considered Jesus a threat, but insane if he had walked around saying he was God. But it was a threat for Jesus to claim to be the Messiah of God and also walk around doing miracles. Jesus had not been claiming to be God in the flesh and this is why the Jews never asked him at his trial if he was God in the flesh, but instead they asked him about what he had been claiming to be, which was the Messiah. Mark 14:61-62 records the High Priest asking “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?" And Jesus said "I am.” The High Priest tore his garments and said he deserved to be put to death when Jesus stated he was the Messiah. So we see that the Jews correctly assessed that Jesus had been claiming to be the Christ, and that Jesus indeed said he was the Christ, and also that the Jews thought his claim was worthy of the death penalty.

The supposed “dual nature” of Christ is never stated in the Bible and contradicts the Bible and the laws of nature that God set up. Nothing can be 100% of two different things. Jesus cannot be 100% God and 100% man, and that is not a “mystery” but it's a contradiction and a talk of nonsense. A fatal flaw in the “dual nature” theory is that both natures in Jesus would have had to have known about each other. The Jesus God nature would have known about his human nature, and (according to what the Trinitarians teach) his human nature knew he was God, which explains why Trinitarians say Jesus taught that he was God. The book of Hebrews is wrong when it says Jesus was “made like his brothers in every respect” if Jesus knew he was God (Hebrews 2:17). Jesus was not made like other humans in every way if Jesus was 100% God and 100% human at the same time. In fact, he would have been very different from other humans in many respects.

Well since you don't believe scripture, then there is no point to this.

Jesus was very different in forgiving sin of those who hadn't offended Him personally. Having power over sin itself. I can't do that..you can't do that.

You can forgive, but you don't have power to cleanse sin.

That's just one thing that makes Jesus very different to the normal person.

He wasn't just going things by the Father's authority like the disciples. He was accepting the disciples worship of Himself.
 
The Jews would not have considered Jesus a threat, but insane if he had walked around saying he was God. But it was a threat for Jesus to claim to be the Messiah of God and also walk around doing miracles. Jesus had not been claiming to be God in the flesh and this is why the Jews never asked him at his trial if he was God in the flesh, but instead they asked him about what he had been claiming to be, which was the Messiah. Mark 14:61-62 records the High Priest asking “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?" And Jesus said "I am.” The High Priest tore his garments and said he deserved to be put to death when Jesus stated he was the Messiah. So we see that the Jews correctly assessed that Jesus had been claiming to be the Christ, and that Jesus indeed said he was the Christ, and also that the Jews thought his claim was worthy of the death penalty.
uh huh. And where do Jewish writers speak of a death penalty for anyone calling themselves a messiah?

The supposed “dual nature” of Christ is never stated in the Bible and contradicts the Bible and the laws of nature that God set up. Nothing can be 100% of two different things. Jesus cannot be 100% God and 100% man, and that is not a “mystery” but it's a contradiction and a talk of nonsense. A fatal flaw in the “dual nature” theory is that both natures in Jesus would have had to have known about each other. The Jesus God nature would have known about his human nature, and (according to what the Trinitarians teach) his human nature knew he was God, which explains why Trinitarians say Jesus taught that he was God. The book of Hebrews is wrong when it says Jesus was “made like his brothers in every respect” if Jesus knew he was God (Hebrews 2:17). Jesus was not made like other humans in every way if Jesus was 100% God and 100% human at the same time. In fact, he would have been very different from other humans in many respects.
Funny how Peterlag goes on to demonstrate again how he fails to be able to conceive how God could be able to have divinity in the Son joined with humanity/creation in Christ Jesus. Peterlag also is somewhat wrong to say Jesus taught that he was God. If Jesus taught this, he would be quoted as saying "I am God who has come to you in the flesh." If Jesus taught so directly, he would have been so clearly being heard that way that people would have killed him for blasphemy. Instead he spoke with the "I am" wording such as "before Abraham was, I am." He also said "if you have seen me you have seen the Father." These of course contribute to pointing out the divinity of Christ as being the most apparent concept behind his words.
 
Well since you don't believe scripture, then there is no point to this.

Jesus was very different in forgiving sin of those who hadn't offended Him personally. Having power over sin itself. I can't do that..you can't do that.

You can forgive, but you don't have power to cleanse sin.

That's just one thing that makes Jesus very different to the normal person.

He wasn't just going things by the Father's authority like the disciples. He was accepting the disciples worship of Himself.
Is there a verse that says Jesus could not be worshiped as the Messiah, the son of God?
 
Is there a verse that says Jesus could not be worshiped as the Messiah, the son of God?
Son of God and Messiah are titles that are for someone who is fully God

'Son' meaning 'image', 'expression'

Messiah..is someone who can forgive sin. That's what Isaiah 53 predicted. If He can do that..that's fully God.


End.
 
Is there a verse that says Jesus could not be worshiped as the Messiah, the son of God?

Of course, Satan asked Jesus to worship him and Jesus quoted the law saying, "You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only." Matthew 4:10
So if God said to only worship Him, then obviously, if Jesus was not God, He should not be worshiped.
Any other elementary questions?
 
Of course, Satan asked Jesus to worship him and Jesus quoted the law saying, "You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only." Matthew 4:10
So if God said to only worship Him, then obviously, if Jesus was not God, He should not be worshiped.
Any other elementary questions?
What should I do with this verse? Rip it out of the Bible?

John 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
 
Son of God and Messiah are titles that are for someone who is fully God

'Son' meaning 'image', 'expression'

Messiah..is someone who can forgive sin. That's what Isaiah 53 predicted. If He can do that..that's fully God.


End.
What should I do with this verse? Rip it out of the Bible?

Matthew 9:6
But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,...
 
What should I do with this verse? Rip it out of the Bible?

Matthew 9:6
But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,...
Peterlag might as well rip it out since he misunderstands who the Messiah is. He could join the Bahai faith with Pancho Frijoles.
 
What should I do with this verse? Rip it out of the Bible?

Matthew 9:6
But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,...
Son of man still has meaning of being fully God. It's about God humbling Himself as a man. Check the surrounding context
 
Son of man still has meaning of being fully God. It's about God humbling Himself as a man. Check the surrounding context
The are no statements anywhere in the Bible that uses the langue that you use. No place do we find words like "God humbling" because God is a badass. Nobody ever beat Him up or spit on Him. You were dead if you even walked in the wrong room in the Temple or bumped into the Ark.
 
No place do we find words like "God humbling" because God is a badass.
Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

101G
 
The Jews would not have considered Jesus a threat, but insane if he had walked around saying he was God. But it was a threat for Jesus to claim to be the Messiah of God and also walk around doing miracles. Jesus had not been claiming to be God in the flesh and this is why the Jews never asked him at his trial if he was God in the flesh, but instead they asked him about what he had been claiming to be, which was the Messiah. Mark 14:61-62 records the High Priest asking “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?" And Jesus said "I am.” The High Priest tore his garments and said he deserved to be put to death when Jesus stated he was the Messiah. So we see that the Jews correctly assessed that Jesus had been claiming to be the Christ, and that Jesus indeed said he was the Christ, and also that the Jews thought his claim was worthy of the death penalty.

The supposed “dual nature” of Christ is never stated in the Bible and contradicts the Bible and the laws of nature that God set up. Nothing can be 100% of two different things. Jesus cannot be 100% God and 100% man, and that is not a “mystery” but it's a contradiction and a talk of nonsense. A fatal flaw in the “dual nature” theory is that both natures in Jesus would have had to have known about each other. The Jesus God nature would have known about his human nature, and (according to what the Trinitarians teach) his human nature knew he was God, which explains why Trinitarians say Jesus taught that he was God. The book of Hebrews is wrong when it says Jesus was “made like his brothers in every respect” if Jesus knew he was God (Hebrews 2:17). Jesus was not made like other humans in every way if Jesus was 100% God and 100% human at the same time. In fact, he would have been very different from other humans in many respects.

So if Mary was His mother and God was His Father, how is it possible that He was just a man? Someone who is just a man does not need God to impregnate His mother.
 
Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

101G
Philippians 2:7 is not referring to God.
 
Please show me where I said Jesus was just a man.
Here we see Peterlag complaining about what we guess about his views. He denies Christ as part of the Godhead which naturally would lead us to think he limits Christ Jesus to a man. So how come he never shares his broader doctrine? He is left tearing things apart -- but gladly not with much effectiveness in his arguments. He leaves the sense that his thinking is utter confusion rather than sharing whatever theory he has.
I'm wondering if Peterlag is promoting something like ascending to the level of messiah or to achieving a christ-consciousness. His ideas are so vague it is hard to know what to say.
 
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well, who is Philippians 2:7 referring to in CONTEXT. your answer please.... (smile).

101G.
You read God because you're mind is programed to see God even when it's clearly referring to Jesus.

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
 
You read God because you're mind is programed to see God even when it's clearly referring to Jesus.

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
(smile), not in 101G's mind in God holy Word, Listen, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." Philippians 2:9 "Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:"

IN CONTEXT, who made himself humble as a man. 101G says the Lord Jesus the Christ, who is God in flesh per Phil. 2:6. if someone else, humble himself in Phil. 27, please post book chapter and verse please, as who did?

101G
 
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