When are believers in Christ ?
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civic
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I asked you what it means to you. If you continue to say nothing then I can only conclude that it means nothing to you.
Conclude whatever you like. This has nothing to do with you proving your false premise. Don't try to shift it off on me. The burden of proof lies with you.
We're listening
civic
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The dodger strikes again . The question exposes the error.
Two things:
1) Hindu-thinking people like you are totally oblivious to any meaning behind these verses. That's a fact by your total inability to offer any meaning to these verses.
2) Believers in Paul's audience are now in heavenly places in Christ. Does chronological time exist in heaven? Hindu-like Calvinists obviously ignore these verses and that is where their ignorance lies.
First prove your premise and then we shall proceed. Your doing your best to try and divert.
Need I remind you what it was??
Those Hindu-like elect caste system believers are like a deer blinded by car headlights when it comes to Bible verses and when it comes to answering simple questions like "does chronological time exist in heaven?"
Presby02~Greetings....I'm going to jump into this thread, but first I need to take my time and read all that has been thus far been posted.
I see you may need a little help, not that you are not able to defend yourself, but just a little reinforcement has never hurt anyone.
Warnings for those ganging up on Presby~
Judges 8:16
“And he took the elders of the city, and thorns of the wilderness and briers, and with them he taught the men of Succoth.”
I'm bringing my thorns and briers to teach you boys a lesson not to gang up on my brothers!
It's Bible verses and common sense that are "ganging up" on Hindu-like calvinist caste system myths and fables. We welcome your challenge to the Bible. Bring on your Calvinist myths, fables, and heresies. The Bible stands supreme and always will.Presby02~Greetings....I'm going to jump into this thread, but first I need to take my time and read all that has been thus far been posted.
I see you may need a little help, not that you are not able to defend yourself, but just a little reinforcement has never hurt anyone.
Warnings for those ganging up on Presby~
Judges 8:16
“And he took the elders of the city, and thorns of the wilderness and briers, and with them he taught the men of Succoth.”
I'm bringing my thorns and briers to teach you boys a lesson not to gang up on my brothers!
Absolutely correct! Calvinists are a funny but tragic bunch. Once their beliefs are exposed as myths by a simple reading of the Bible, they will always resort to ad hominems and playing the victim. I also feel sorry for them.
Well now Mr. Sennacherib king of Assyria~ (not Israel btw) let us see who can and cannot rightly divide the word of truth. You sound just like him and and his cloney, deceived Rabshakeh.
Your proud spirit will not allow you to feel sorry others, because you trust in your own works, and you despise and hate the fact there are a few who trust solely in Christ's obedience and righteousness as the only means of them having the free gift of eternal life, that it has you using deceitful words...like I feel sorry for them.....etc. I have no reason to believe your words are coming from a broken spirit.
Unconditional salvation is a bible truth, preached years before Calvin was ever born~as a matter of truth, even Luther was before Calvin and it taught the same. Yet, neither of them was pure in their gospel understanding of pure grace, yet they did both labor to maintain the truth as they saw it and understood it concerning how how God imputes His righteousness to his elect without works, including faith on their part, which both Calvin and Luther struggled to understand. Yet, their desire was to make it as free as they could. You men labor to add your own works to what Christ secured for God's elect.
Very boastful words, let us see if you can back your proud words up~pretty sure you cannot.
Listen to the snail calling the worm slimy!
I'll bring the word of God, not Calvinism, which I'm not. Calvinism is used in a very broad sense by most, and most do not know the difference between Calvinism, Arminianism and the TRUTH!
https://letgodbetrue.com/sermons/index/year-2006/calvinism-arminianism-and-the-truth/
civic
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Is that your website ? Thanks
No it is not. Yet, you may find a sermon, or two on there, since I have preached in that church. I was part of them back in mid eighties when they first started and, but left for good around 2010 over 70 A.D. theory that they came to beleive in and taught. A few other minor differences. Good people, who love God, yet two cannot walk together unless they agree and 70 A.D. theory causes one to corrupt many scriptures.... too many for me to feel comfortable with still being part of them. I can endure some differences, but not that one.
We remain good friends, to where we respect and love one another, but that's as far as I will go.
civic
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Thanks for sharing
Thanks brother.Presby02~Greetings....I'm going to jump into this thread, but first I need to take my time and read all that has been thus far been posted.
I see you may need a little help, not that you are not able to defend yourself, but just a little reinforcement has never hurt anyone.
Warnings for those ganging up on Presby~
Judges 8:16
“And he took the elders of the city, and thorns of the wilderness and briers, and with them he taught the men of Succoth.”
I'm bringing my thorns and briers to teach you boys a lesson not to gang up on my brothers!
If your following the thread they are the ones on need of help.
