When are believers in Christ ?

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1-How can 2 walk together unless they are united ?
2-Believers are united in Christ
3-We are in union with Christ
4-We are the bride of Christ
5-Marriage is a union of 2 people who willingly love each other.
6-Believers are married to Christ the Bridegroom.
7-Love is a 2 way street- 2 willing parties.
8-Our union in Christ is based upon love and faith.

hope this helps !!!

Hello @civic,

I do not believe that God mixes His metaphors: so must ask you, if we are members of, 'The Body of Christ', how can we also be, 'The Bride of the Lamb'? I use this latter term because Scripture does not use the term 'The Bride of Christ'. I believe that these two terms indicate two separate and distinct companies, perhaps we should discuss this some time.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Presby02]

Good to see that you're realizing that you're projecting your hatred and ignorance onto others. There's hope for you yet. See you at your appointment.

Projection. Your hatred of Calvinism is quite apparent. Which of course leads to your obsession which leads to you claiming incredibly stupid things. Cancel your appointment. I have diagnosed your problems. Seek help

 

[synergy]

Projection. Your hatred of Calvinism is quite apparent. Which of course leads to your obsession which leads to you claiming incredibly stupid things. Cancel your appointment. I have diagnosed your problems. Seek help

It's not my fault that you believe in the Hindu-like Calvinist Caste system. Instead of rationally analyzing that heretical fact, you resort to name calling with words like "stupid". Put some rationality and thought in your conversations and then you'll get some respect. Until then, your appointment is still on.

 

[Presby02]

It's not my fault that you believe in the Hindu-like Calvinist Caste system. Instead of rationally analyzing that heretical fact, you resort to name calling with words like "stupid". Put some rationality and thought in your conversations and then you'll get some respect. Until then, your appointment is still on.

It's not my fault you believe in cult like Pelagianism.

When you say stupid things then they are stupid. LOL I did not call you stupid.

I don't need or want your respect. Go play

 

[civic]

Hello @civic,

I do not believe that God mixes His metaphors: so must ask you, if we are members of, 'The Body of Christ', how can we also be, 'The Bride of the Lamb'? I use this latter term because Scripture does not use the term 'The Bride of Christ'. I believe that these two terms indicate two separate and distinct companies, perhaps we should discuss this some time.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Ephesians 5
Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

Matthew 22:2
"The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son.

Matthew 25:10
But while they were on their way to buy it, the bridegroom arrived. Those who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet, and the door was shut.

Luke 12:36
Then you will be like servants waiting for their master to return from the wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks, they can open the door for him at once.

John 3:29
The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend of the bridegroom stands and listens for him, and is overjoyed to hear the bridegroom's voice. That joy is mine, and it is now complete.

Revelation 19:7
Let us rejoice and be glad and give Him the glory. For the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready

hope this helps !!!

 

[Bobby Walker]

You must be born again.
For me I see the magnitude of God’s love for us and what He has done for us at the very moment of our spiritual conception when we are born again by the Spirit of God is one of the most awe-inspiring miracles in the world!

 

[civic]

You must be born again.
For me I see the magnitude of God’s love for us and what He has done for us at the very moment of our spiritual conception when we are born again by the Spirit of God is one of the most awe-inspiring miracles in the world!

Exactly and one must first hear the gospel then believe the gospel. Then one becomes born again as Peter describes in his epistle and Paul in his epistles. And we know that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ. The calvinist by passes this and has themselves saved before the gospel is heard and believed with their false doctrines of regeneration, dead, tulip, election, predestination etc....

 

[Presby02]

Exactly and one must first hear the gospel then believe the gospel. Then one becomes born again as Peter describes in his epistle and Paul in his epistles. And we know that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ. The calvinist by passes this and has themselves saved before the gospel is heard and believed with their false doctrines of regeneration, dead, tulip, election, predestination etc....

Not according to your proof text which I take you now disavow?

 

[civic]

Not according to your proof text which I take you now disavow?

The several texts I provided proves no one in in Christ until they believe the gospel and are converted.

 

[Presby02]

The several texts I provided proves no one in in Christ until they believe the gospel and are converted.

Ephesians 1:13. Did they hear before or after being in Christ??

Here comes the dodger

 

[synergy]

It's not my fault you believe in cult like Pelagianism.

So you defend your Hindu-like heresies with falsehoods like this?

When you say stupid things then they are stupid. LOL I did not call you stupid.

I don't need or want your respect. Go play

It's a good thing you don't need respect because with all the falsehoods your spew out you'll never get any respect.

 

[Presby02]

So you defend your Hindu-like heresies with falsehoods like this?

It's a good thing you don't need respect because with all the falsehoods your spew out you'll never get any respect.

Question begging. Your claim is stupid

 

[Presby02]

So you defend your Hindu-like heresies with falsehoods like this?

It's a good thing you don't need respect because with all the falsehoods your spew out you'll never get any respect.

And who cares
From somebody like you I will pass. I prefer to be your theological enemy.

 

[civic]

Ephesians 1:13. Did they hear before or after being in Christ??

Here comes the dodger

The gospel is always prior to being in Christ as per Paul in Eph 1:13-14 cf Rom 16:7

 

[synergy]

Question begging. Your claim is stupid

And who cares
From somebody like you I will pass. I prefer to be your theological enemy.

You cared enough to respond to me!!!
in your typical Ad Hominem fashion!!!

 

[Presby02]

The gospel is always prior to being in Christ as per Paul in Eph 1:13-4 cf Rom 16:7

So you heard the gospel from the foundation of the world?

 

[Presby02]

You cared enough to respond to me!!!
in your typical Ad Hominem fashion!!!

Of course. one cannot let such ignorance go unanswered.

 

[civic]

So you heard the gospel from the foundation of the world?

Nice pile of straw. The only thing chosen before the foundation of the world is for believers to be faithful in Christ. Jesus is the elect one believers are placed in after the hearing and believing of the message of their salvation- the gospel

 

[Presby02]

Nice pile of straw. The only thing chosen before the foundation of the world is for believers to be faithful in Christ. Jesus is the elect one believers are placed in after the hearing and believing of the message of their salvation- the gospel

False. It says "you" were chosen in Christ. Who is the you?

 

[civic]

You cared enough to respond to me!!!
in your typical Ad Hominem fashion!!!

Yep