brightfame52
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Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam
When are believers in Christ ?
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civic
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brightfame52
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Believers were in Christ before the foundation,before they were in Adam. Were men in Adam in the beginning before they existed ? 1 Cor 15:22
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
brightfame52
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Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam
Once again you ignore scripture
Only after they believe
Ephesians 1:13 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Romans 16:7 (LEB) — 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my compatriots and my fellow prisoners, who are well known to the apostles, who were also in Christ before me.
Give us actual proof of your "before the foundation" interpretation. You can tell us about your "before the foundation" experience.
Johann
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Ephesians 1:13-14
"In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory."
Here, Paul makes it clear that believers are "in Him" only after hearing and trusting the gospel message. It is through faith in Christ that they are sealed with the Holy Spirit, affirming their union with Him.
J.
brightfame52
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Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam
brightfame52
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Your not able to see the proof, Ive given it numerous times for years. Do you believe men were in Adam at the beginning of the world ?
Therefore, only after one believes does one get positioned "in Christ". Belief happens before regeneration.
civic
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Exactly
brightfame52
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I can show you spiritual proof,but I cant give you spiritual eyes to see it.
As usual you ignore scripture
Ephesians 1:13 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Romans 16:7 (LEB) — 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my compatriots and my fellow prisoners, who are well known to the apostles, who were also in Christ before me.
brightfame52
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Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam, You ignore Eph 1:4
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
It's your misinterpretation of the Bible that is wrong. It's you who can't see the spiritual truth of the Bible.
civic
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Rowan
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When are believers in Christ ?
When the believe in Him. When we put our faith in Him.
Paul thinks the normal Christian life is “in Christ.” That means the Christian now lives in the spiritual Christ who is present on all sides, dwells in the believer, and speaks to, in, and through the believer.
“In Christ” corresponds closely to “in the Spirit.”
A meaning of “in Christ” that is often overlooked in recent scholarship is “under the power of Christ,” “in dependence on Christ,” “in Christ’s hands.”
brightfame52
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Ive shown you much scripture truth,but you cant see it and can only respond with insults.
Nope. It's you who is misinterpreting Scripture and playing the poor victim.
