What is the New Covenant?

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His bride, His church, includes gentiles.

Eph 2:11–22Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, the so-called uncircumcision by the so-called circumcision in the flesh, made by hands, that you were at that time apart from Christ, alienated from the citizenship of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, not having hope, and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you, the ones who once were far away, have become near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who made both one and broke down the dividing wall of the partition, the enmity, in his flesh, invalidating the law of commandments in ordinances, in order that he might create the two in himself into one new man, thus making peace, and might reconcile both in one body to God through the cross, killing the enmity in himself. And coming, he proclaimed the good news of peace to you who were far away and peace to the ones who were near, because through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. Consequently, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but you are fellow citizens of the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole building, joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are built up together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

Rom 11:11–24I say then, they did not stumble so that they fell, did they? May it never be! But by their trespass, salvation has come to the Gentiles, in order to provoke them to jealousy. And if their trespass means riches for the world and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fullness mean? Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Therefore, inasmuch as I am apostle to the Gentiles, I promote my ministry, if somehow I may provoke my people to jealousy and save some of them. For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean except life from the dead? Now if the first fruits are holy, so also is the whole batch of dough, and if the root is holy, so also are the branches. Now if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although you were a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them and became a sharer of the root of the olive tree’s richness, do not boast against the branches. But if you boast against them, you do not support the root, but the root supports you. Then you will say, “Branches were broken off in order that I could be grafted in.” Well said! They were broken off because of unbelief, but you stand firm because of faith. Do not think arrogant thoughts, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity upon those who have fallen, but upon you the kindness of God—if you continue in his kindness, for otherwise you…

Gal 3:28–29There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are descendants of Abraham, heirs according to the promise.

Acts 10:34–35So Peter opened his mouth and said, “In truth I understand that God is not one who shows partiality, but in every nation the one who fears him and who does what is right is acceptable to him.

Rom 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Acts 15:7–9And after there was much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Men and brothers, you know that in the early days God chose among you through my mouth that the Gentiles should hear the message of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, testified to them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as he also did to us. And he made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.

Col 3:11where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, slave, or free, but Christ is all, and in all.

Rom 9:24–26us whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? As he also says in Hosea, “I will call those who were not my people, ‘My people,’ and those who were not loved, ‘Loved.’ And it will be in the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’ ”

thanks for examples of esaus corruptions of the scroll.

 

[Studyman]

God does not treat everyone the same.
For example, He sends unbelievers to Hell, and Believers To Heaven.

Well, you should qualify your use of the word "believe". The serpent in the garden "believed" in God. Demons "believe" in God. The Pharisees believed in God. Those "Christians" in Matthew 7 that Jesus rejected, believed in God.

According to what is actually written in scriptures, it is those who refuse to obey God's commandments, that HE condemns to death. While those who repent and turn to Him in obedience, HE gives to Jesus for cleansing.

So HE treats all men the same, depending on their works, as it is written.

So. Is that "teating everyone the same"?

Of course it is, but don't take my word for it, I'm a nobody. Listen instead to Paul.

Rom. 2: 6 Who will render to "every man" according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing "seek for" glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, "but obey unrighteousness", indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon "every soul of man" that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10 But glory, honour, and peace, to "every man" that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 For there "is no respect of persons" with God.

So then, God treats every man the same, according to their own choices. At least this is what Paul teaches.

Maybe you don't believe in all that is written the Bible, there are "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, that don't.

Not Quite.

Also, does God call everyone to be a Pastor?

Im one of 3 Brothers whom God called into the Ministry.
One is a Pastor, im the Evangelist/Teacher, and one is a Missionary.
Is that the same?

Kenneth Copeland also claims that God called him into the Ministry. All the Popes, Wesley, Russell, White, the list goes on and on of men who claimed god called them into the ministry. Just because someone transforms themself into an apostle of Christ, doesn't mean they were called by God.

For me, given I have the Oracles of God in my own home, I don't have to worry about this world's preachers, whether God sent them or not. I have the teaching of Moses, Jeremiah, Malachi, Jesus, David, Paul, James, Peter Isaiah etc., all given to me by God for my admonition. Paul said these Holy Scriptures, Inspired by God, are trustworthy "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Why would I not just trust their teaching that HE sent for me, who I know God called. And in doing so, I find that God is no respecter of persons, according to His Inspired Words. As opposed to your words, which teach that God "IS" a respecter of persons.

No offence, but I'm safe with the Word of God. A preacher that promotes an image of God in the likeness of man, I'm not so sure how safe I would be adopting his philosophies.

Does God give every Christian the same Spiritual Gift?

You would have to define for me what a "Christian" is. In the Bible it is only used 2 or 3 times, and it meant "Christ-like" or those who "follow the Messiah". Jesus Himself defined those who followed Him (Christians) as men who are "Doers" of His Sayings, not hearers only. He said men are to "Live by" Every Word of God, and "Keep God's Commandments", as confirmed by the first Church of God under his New high Priest, "After the Order of Melchizedek".

I don't believe Jesus advocated for promoting "Images of God, in the likeness of men". Nor can I find any evidence that Jesus Promoted man-made high days, nor did HE promote the rejection of God's Judgments and Sabbaths in order that men can live by their own religious traditions.

We know that in that day, the Judgment seat of Christ in which men "ALL" will appear before, that there will be "Many" self proclaimed Christians, who call Jesus Lord, Lord, who preach in His Name, cast out demons in His Name, and do many wonderful works in His Name, but live in disobedience to God's Judgments and commandments. He said because of their "works" HE doesn't know them.

For me, it seems prudent therefore, as Paul teaches, to make sure we are accepted of Him;

2 Cor. 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

"For there "is no respect of persons" with God".

Before we start trying to determine the gifts He might give.

Now, the way that God sees us as Equal is that "all have sinned", and all are given the opportunity to become a Christian.

Well, according to what is actually written in scriptures, we have all sinned, and are given the opportunity to "Repent, Turn to God, or as Paul teaches in another place, "Yield ourselves" to God, and bring forth "works" worthy of repentance". Works that God before ordained that we should walk in them. "Good works" as defined by the God and Father of all.

His Son, the Jesus of the Bible, makes this possible by the offering of His Life to God, to atone for our sins. Though Him, we are unburdened by the captivity of sin and death, free to "Serve another", to " put on the new man, which after God (Not man's religions) is created in righteousness and true holiness.

All men have the same opportunity to "Join themselves to this Lord", For there "is no respect of persons" with God.

But Jesus also warned:

Matt. 13: 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

"For there is no respect of persons with God".

 

[TomL]

thanks for examples of esaus corruptions of the scroll.

I have more faith in God maintaining his word than in your denial of the word

 

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I have more faith in God maintaining his word than in your denial of the word

it would be up to you to go find what He said and remove the corruptions... translating for yourself and finding the scribal errors. or intentional corruptions.

I do not deny His Word.

His Word is a living being.

 

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respect of persons:

God adores His souls, loves us.

Who cares about respect when even an enemy can force it?

As for persons, not included there in this definition is this flesh body not made by God ... for He hates it.

 

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God hates esau and all the serpent souls.

God loves jacob who come to Him .

that respect line is vague and sounds like esau
pomping himself up , as usual .

 

[TomL]

it would be up to you to go find what He said and remove the corruptions... translating for yourself and finding the scribal errors. or intentional corruptions.

I do not deny His Word.

His Word is a living being.

Can you say you read Greek and Hebrew?

 

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I have more faith in God maintaining his word than in your denial of the word

that idea of inspired and maintained is straight out of the vatican.

 

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Can you say you read Greek and Hebrew?

yes greek, my partner both plus 12 other languages.

 

[e v e]

Can you say you read Greek and Hebrew?

it was required for phd program

ancient greek philosophy - medieval - early modern etc.

 

[TomL]

it was required for phd program

ancient greek philosophy - medieval - early modern etc.

I did not ask about philosophy.

I asked if you read both Hebrew and Greek.

 

[TomL]

yes greek, my partner both plus 12 other languages.

So why is it noted Greek scholars do not agree with you?

 

[TomL]

that idea of inspired and maintained is straight out of the vatican.

No, it is straight out of faith in God.

 

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So why is it noted Greek scholars do not agree with you?

centuries of group think and bullying.

Do not forget

almost half the prophets - murdered.
almost half the apostles - murdered.

stakes are high.

ptolemy ii - a follower of the greek gods , commissioned the septuagint , chose 'which' scribes would write down the words.
spent more on his coronation in gold coin
than today's richest man's worth.

he had a lot of say on the product.

king james hires sorcerer john dee
to oversee kjv production
.. photographic copies full of masonic symbols
are still to be found on archive.org

the vatican, satan's henchman,
said it was inspired. chased souls around,
calling them heretics.
determined what was canonical.

lots of punishment and death.
then the 30 years war. more murder.
more bullying.

narratives have been enforced.
people would prefer safe traditions to
listening to God.

what if one understood what He said
and a church friend now
walked away, calling him a heretic.

being outlier is never easy.
not for the prophets or apostles
nor for us.

 

[e v e]

it's true not one word He spoke can or will be changed.

modern bibles however
are esau inspired things which
require a lot of careful study
to find what He said and separate
His words from the wicked ones.

(words added, removed, rearranged)

 

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So why is it noted Greek scholars do not agree with you?

many souls agree with me,
even i never met or spoke to them

also, God chose simple men,
not scholars, as his prophets

read kierkegaard's difference between a genius and an apostle. the first pages are too intellectualized if i recall but it gets fantastic
as it goes along....
in explaining why scholars (geniuses) are not prophets

 

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best to throw out vatican councils, canons,
decrees, decisions, platitudes, opinions,
and supposed sacraments. All baal
worship.

 

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why do churches now expect
prospective followers to sign statements?
like that horrible chicago statement?
So 300 sign it so therefore
it must be true.

nope.

 

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I will stay safe with God
and skip the room filled with a 1000+
scholars and experts 'about God'.

 

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duplicate..
sorry.