The New Covenant

jeremiah1five

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The New Covenant is only the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Jesus the Christ. And the New Covenant established in the body and blood of Israel's Messiah, Jesus the Christ, is between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah as says the Scripture.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:31.

There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles named or mentioned in this New Covenant God establishes with the children of Israel.
 
The New Covenant is only the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Jesus the Christ. And the New Covenant established in the body and blood of Israel's Messiah, Jesus the Christ, is between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah as says the Scripture.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:31.

There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles named or mentioned in this New Covenant God establishes with the children of Israel.
No disagreement the New Covenant (NC) was established with the promised blood line of Abraham, for they were under the Old Covenant (OC) when God declared the New one. The Gentiles were under no such covenants with God, but as the Apostle Paul taught us Gentiles throughout his letters, the Gentiles and promised blood line of Abraham have been reconciled in the body of Jesus Christ.

The promise of God to Abraham was binding and took precedence over the OC that came afterwards. The sacrificial death of Jesus Christ on a cross bought them out from under the curse of the OC they were under, so that they and we Gentiles would receive the promised Holy Spirit by faith. The Apostle Paul lays this out to the Galatians in chapter 3 of his letter to them.
Paul begins chapter 3:6-9 explaining to the Gentile believers of Jesus Christ they received the Holy Spirit by faith not works. He then teaches them "just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed." So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham."​
Paul then informs them in 3:10-14 "that one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith". Paul then teaches them that our Lord redeemed us (those who are under the OC) from the curse of the Law, "so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith."​
And then in 3:25-29, Paul summarizes by stating, "But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise."​
And in 4:4-7, Paul states that those under the OC were redeemed and given the Spirit of Adoption, and because the Gentiles are also sons, God sent His Spirit into the hearts of both Jew and Gentile "But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God." (Gal 4:4-7)​

In Ephesians 2:12-14, the Apostle Paul teaches the circumcised physical descendants of Abraham (circumcision of the flesh denoted the children of promise) and the Gentiles who, "were at that time of circumcision separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility".

In Ephesians 3:5-6, the Apostle Paul states God made known a mystery, "which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel".

And while the Gentiles were not under covenant, the blessings of the NC are in effect for all peoples who believe in Jesus Christ. "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (Eph 4:4-6)

The New Covenant that God promised is true for every believer of Jesus Christ, regardless if Jew or Gentile. The benefits are the same for both, since there is no longer Jew and Gentile but one new man in Jesus Christ.

God Bless
 
No disagreement the New Covenant (NC) was established with the promised blood line of Abraham, for they were under the Old Covenant (OC) when God declared the New one. The Gentiles were under no such covenants with God, but as the Apostle Paul taught us Gentiles throughout his letters, the Gentiles and promised blood line of Abraham have been reconciled in the body of Jesus Christ.
Neither the Abraham Covenant nor especially the Mosaic Covenant includes non-Hebrew Gentiles. As we look back through history, we see God dealing first with one person, Abraham, and He makes promises spread out through three chapters in Genesis - 12, 15, and 17. Abraham is promised an heir, land, making Abraham's name great, and prospering him among others. This covenant is also to be passed on to his seed, whom we know is Isaac - born of two Hebrew parents, and Jacob, also born of two Hebrew parents. The 12 sons of Jacob were born of parents within the Hebrew ancestral line.

Moses was sent by God who was of the tribe/son of Levi to deliver the Hebrew people from Egyptian bondage and slavery as prophesied by God in Genesis 15. It is at Mount Sinai that God enjoins the children of Jacob/Israel into a new covenant which bears the name of Moses - Mosaic Covenant. Through this covenant the people of Israel become a nation with Laws given to them by God - Social, Moral, and Ceremonial Law. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in this covenant for the covenant is already established by God in Genesis 17 as also including Abraham's direct descendants and seed.

Through Moses God commands instruction for the high priest in prayers and sacrifices to and for the children of Israel. These instructions are precise and mandated. The high priest under the Ceremonial Law is commanded to pray for the children of Israel and offer sacrifices for the children of Israel and he does these things as directed by God. The high priest does not perform his duties for Gentiles. One of the doctrines in true, biblical Christianity is the holding that Jesus Christ as the lamb of God and as High Priest before His crucifixion prays for the children of Israel and offers sacrifice - Himself - to and for the children of Israel. So, if the high priest performed these two things for God and for the children of Israel, and Jesus Christ as High Priest does these very things as commanded in the Law of Moses, then Jesus' prayers and sacrifice of Himself is solely to and for the children of Israel. There can be no departure from these commands of the high priest.
The promise of God to Abraham was binding and took precedence over the OC that came afterwards. The sacrificial death of Jesus Christ on a cross bought them out from under the curse of the OC they were under, so that they and we Gentiles would receive the promised Holy Spirit by faith. The Apostle Paul lays this out to the Galatians in chapter 3 of his letter to them.
The Law of Moses was not a curse to the children of Israel. Not exactly. It was a curse because the Law is spiritual and as applied to men and women of flesh did kill the flesh. But there was a change in the Law from the standpoint of fleshly men and women when they became born-again of the Spirit beginning of the Jewish Feast of Harvest also known as Pentecost (ca. AD 32.) The Law remained the same, but it was the conversion - or should I say, the addition of a human spirit created anew for everyone who became born-again and thus became a spiritual person through the change occurring through the Holy Spirit. In this state the Law was no longer a curse for now as spiritual people God commanded obedience to the Law, specifically for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteous that the people were to obey in their new birth condition. The born-again people were also justified by God and declared "Not Guilty!" of transgressing His Law because of the eternal atonement God placed upon everyone born from above.

Saul's letter to Jewish Christians in the Galatian region was addressed to Jews and Jewish Christians for in chapter 3 Saul identifies to whom he is writing to when he says, "But before faith came, we [JEWS] were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our [JEWS] schoolmaster to bring us [JEWS] unto Christ, that we [JEWS] might be justified by faith." Gentiles were never "under the Law" nor were they under a schoolmaster which Saul again identifies as the Law. Thus, Saul is writing to Jews. It is the Jews who are "heirs according to the promise."

Mixed heritage Jews were called "Gentile" the same that "Samaritans" were called "Samaritan" and not Jew. Since there were no Gentiles in the Abraham or Mosaic Covenant, there are no Gentiles in the New Covenant for Jeremiah prophesied the New Covenant is declared by God to be with the House of Israel and the House of Judah - no Gentiles are mentioned or named in Jeremiah 31:31-34. Do you see Gentiles in this prophecy?
Paul begins chapter 3:6-9 explaining to the Gentile believers of Jesus Christ they received the Holy Spirit by faith not works. He then teaches them "just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed." So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham."​
The ten northern kingdom tribes were conquered and exiled and taken captive by Assyria in 722 BC. Later, Babylon defeated the Assyrians, took their spoils which included people of the ten northern kingdom tribes.
In 586 BC Babylon conquered the two southern kingdom tribes (Judah) and took captives and exiled them back to Babylon. It was here where without their Temple centered their religion around the Feasts and calendar observances in order to maintain their "Judaism" among themselves.

The gospels, especially John 4, records Jesus interacting with a "Samaritan" which implies the woman was a daughter of Jacob/Israel and form one of the ten northern kingdom tribes by reference to being called "Samaritan", who was a mixed heritage Hebrew of one of the ten tribes and a Gentile (non-Hebrew.) You must understand that from 722 BC to Jesus' appearing was about 25-30 generations of Jews born during this time - some having a Gentile parent, others having a Hebrew parent. It was a time of great disarray among the Jews and Gentile born Jews. That's 722 years from the Assyrian conquest of Israel to the birth of Jesus. How committed do you think the Jews were in maintaining the purity of their respective tribes? But here is something to consider: Samaria was the capital of the ten northern kingdom tribes. There were good kings but mostly evil kings that led the people into idolatry and intermarriages, rapes, concubinage, and slavery of the Jewish people when Assyria conquered them. The woman at the well was clearly "of Samaria" indicating a daughter of Abraham but also having in her ancestry of 722 years a Gentile parent. They were called "Samaritan."

But what about the two southern kingdom tribes of Judah and Benjamin? In at least 586 years they were conquered by Babylon and taken back to Babylon. How many intermarriages, rapes, concubinage, and slavery did the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin intermingle with Gentiles? These mixed heritage Jew/Gentile most assuredly did exist. But what were they called? Let's attempt to do some math:

For the sake of argument let's say there were one million Jews that were displaced by both the Assyrian and Babylonian effect. If we conclude a "remnant" is 10% of all living Jews that returned with Nehemiah in 522 BC that would leave about 900,000 Jews remaining in Gentile lands and influenced by some Assyrian and Babylonian culture - not to mention Greek culture for there were Hellenists among the people. Without a Temple and through intermingling with Gentiles (25-30 generations) how many remained true to their Hebrew heritage? Now it gets convoluted. So, if the woman at the well was a "Samaritan" referencing her "mixed heritage" descent of the ten northern tribes and Gentile, what about mixed heritage Jews of the two southern tribes and Gentile. Where are they mentioned in the gospels? They as a conquered people intermingled with Assyrian and Babylonian peoples through rape, marriage, concubinage, and slavery - where are they mentioned in the gospels? I'm sure that of the "remnant" or 100,000 Jews that returned with Nehemiah back to the Holy Land there were mixed heritage Jews and Gentile among that number. But then again, 900,000 Jews remained in and around Assyria and Babylon and Gentile lands in-between. Were there 100,000 Jews and mixed heritage Jews that returned with Nehemiah? Less? More? Think about it.
Paul then informs them in 3:10-14 "that one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith". Paul then teaches them that our Lord redeemed us (those who are under the OC) from the curse of the Law, "so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith."​
These Gentiles you think were Gentile are really mixed heritage Jews. God promised Abraham and his seed many things. God, through Moses promised many great things. But nowhere in Scripture has God made covenant with or promised anything to Gentiles.

Consider:
17 All nations [Gentiles] before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.

This cannot refer to Jews who as seed of Abraham are heirs of God's promises.
And then in 3:25-29, Paul summarizes by stating, "But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise."​
Notice Saul is referring to Hellenized Jews when he writes "Greek" and NOT "Gentile." In Scripture God calls Israel and Olive tree. There is also disobedient or "wild" Olive tree among the people of Israel. Never does God call Gentiles an Olive tree let alone a "wild" Olive tree. Therefore, those being "grafted BACK IN" can only mean disobedient or "wild" Jews.
And in 4:4-7, Paul states that those under the OC were redeemed and given the Spirit of Adoption, and because the Gentiles are also sons, God sent His Spirit into the hearts of both Jew and Gentile "But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God." (Gal 4:4-7)​
Your translation does great damage of the truth. Saul's Galatian letter is addressed to Jews and Jewish Christians of Jew-Jew heritage and Jew-Gentile heritage for no matter the DNA dilution through intermarriage with Gentile, the Lord knows them that are His, and these Jew-Gentile offspring are still Abraham's seed are they not? How can you interpret Gentiles as being part of the Abraham and Mosaic and New Covenants when there are no promises made by God to non-Hebrew Gentiles, that there were never any Gentiles included in any of the three Hebrew covenants (Abraham, Mosaic, and New.)
In Ephesians 2:12-14, the Apostle Paul teaches the circumcised physical descendants of Abraham (circumcision of the flesh denoted the children of promise) and the Gentiles who, "were at that time of circumcision separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility".
Again, Saul is writing to Jews and Jewish Christians. It is the mixed heritage Jews that were "at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: Eph 2:12.

They grew up in Gentile lands (Ephesus) heavily influenced by GREEK culture (Hellenized) and most might have been uncircumcised which makes sense when the Judaizers believed that to truly be "saved" must be circumcised. No Judaizer or Jewish Christian nor anyone of Jewry would ever seek to circumcise a non-Hebrew Gentile because Jews know that the Abraham Covenant was to Abe and his seed, NOT with non-Hebrew Gentiles. It again makes sense when the issue of circumcising Gentile-influenced Jews of mixed heritage was called on by Judaizers in order to be "saved." No Jew would ever seek to circumcise a non-Hebrew Gentile in order to place them in the Abraham or Mosaic covenants because as all Jews know and were taught their own history, they KNOW God never included non-Hebrew Gentiles into the covenants.
In Ephesians 3:5-6, the Apostle Paul states God made known a mystery, "which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel".

And while the Gentiles were not under covenant, the blessings of the NC are in effect for all peoples who believe in Jesus Christ. "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (Eph 4:4-6)

The New Covenant that God promised is true for every believer of Jesus Christ, regardless if Jew or Gentile. The benefits are the same for both, since there is no longer Jew and Gentile but one new man in Jesus Christ.

God Bless
Show me in the Old Testament where and when the Abraham and Mosaic Covenants were made that God mentioned, named, or included non-Hebrew Gentiles. AND if there are NO non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the two covenants, then there can be no non-Hebrew Gentiles in the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah 31:31-34.
Post your evidenced from the Old Testament where and when the covenants were made by God that non-Hebrew Gentiles are included.
 
Neither the Abraham Covenant nor especially the Mosaic Covenant includes non-Hebrew Gentiles. As we look back through history, we see God dealing first with one person, Abraham, and He makes promises spread out through three chapters in Genesis - 12, 15, and 17. Abraham is promised an heir, land, making Abraham's name great, and prospering him among others. This covenant is also to be passed on to his seed, whom we know is Isaac - born of two Hebrew parents, and Jacob, also born of two Hebrew parents. The 12 sons of Jacob were born of parents within the Hebrew ancestral line.

Moses was sent by God who was of the tribe/son of Levi to deliver the Hebrew people from Egyptian bondage and slavery as prophesied by God in Genesis 15. It is at Mount Sinai that God enjoins the children of Jacob/Israel into a new covenant which bears the name of Moses - Mosaic Covenant. Through this covenant the people of Israel become a nation with Laws given to them by God - Social, Moral, and Ceremonial Law. There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in this covenant for the covenant is already established by God in Genesis 17 as also including Abraham's direct descendants and seed.

Through Moses God commands instruction for the high priest in prayers and sacrifices to and for the children of Israel. These instructions are precise and mandated. The high priest under the Ceremonial Law is commanded to pray for the children of Israel and offer sacrifices for the children of Israel and he does these things as directed by God. The high priest does not perform his duties for Gentiles. One of the doctrines in true, biblical Christianity is the holding that Jesus Christ as the lamb of God and as High Priest before His crucifixion prays for the children of Israel and offers sacrifice - Himself - to and for the children of Israel. So, if the high priest performed these two things for God and for the children of Israel, and Jesus Christ as High Priest does these very things as commanded in the Law of Moses, then Jesus' prayers and sacrifice of Himself is solely to and for the children of Israel. There can be no departure from these commands of the high priest.

The Law of Moses was not a curse to the children of Israel. Not exactly. It was a curse because the Law is spiritual and as applied to men and women of flesh did kill the flesh. But there was a change in the Law from the standpoint of fleshly men and women when they became born-again of the Spirit beginning of the Jewish Feast of Harvest also known as Pentecost (ca. AD 32.) The Law remained the same, but it was the conversion - or should I say, the addition of a human spirit created anew for everyone who became born-again and thus became a spiritual person through the change occurring through the Holy Spirit. In this state the Law was no longer a curse for now as spiritual people God commanded obedience to the Law, specifically for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteous that the people were to obey in their new birth condition. The born-again people were also justified by God and declared "Not Guilty!" of transgressing His Law because of the eternal atonement God placed upon everyone born from above.

Saul's letter to Jewish Christians in the Galatian region was addressed to Jews and Jewish Christians for in chapter 3 Saul identifies to whom he is writing to when he says, "But before faith came, we [JEWS] were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our [JEWS] schoolmaster to bring us [JEWS] unto Christ, that we [JEWS] might be justified by faith." Gentiles were never "under the Law" nor were they under a schoolmaster which Saul again identifies as the Law. Thus, Saul is writing to Jews. It is the Jews who are "heirs according to the promise."

Mixed heritage Jews were called "Gentile" the same that "Samaritans" were called "Samaritan" and not Jew. Since there were no Gentiles in the Abraham or Mosaic Covenant, there are no Gentiles in the New Covenant for Jeremiah prophesied the New Covenant is declared by God to be with the House of Israel and the House of Judah - no Gentiles are mentioned or named in Jeremiah 31:31-34. Do you see Gentiles in this prophecy?

The ten northern kingdom tribes were conquered and exiled and taken captive by Assyria in 722 BC. Later, Babylon defeated the Assyrians, took their spoils which included people of the ten northern kingdom tribes.
In 586 BC Babylon conquered the two southern kingdom tribes (Judah) and took captives and exiled them back to Babylon. It was here where without their Temple centered their religion around the Feasts and calendar observances in order to maintain their "Judaism" among themselves.

The gospels, especially John 4, records Jesus interacting with a "Samaritan" which implies the woman was a daughter of Jacob/Israel and form one of the ten northern kingdom tribes by reference to being called "Samaritan", who was a mixed heritage Hebrew of one of the ten tribes and a Gentile (non-Hebrew.) You must understand that from 722 BC to Jesus' appearing was about 25-30 generations of Jews born during this time - some having a Gentile parent, others having a Hebrew parent. It was a time of great disarray among the Jews and Gentile born Jews. That's 722 years from the Assyrian conquest of Israel to the birth of Jesus. How committed do you think the Jews were in maintaining the purity of their respective tribes? But here is something to consider: Samaria was the capital of the ten northern kingdom tribes. There were good kings but mostly evil kings that led the people into idolatry and intermarriages, rapes, concubinage, and slavery of the Jewish people when Assyria conquered them. The woman at the well was clearly "of Samaria" indicating a daughter of Abraham but also having in her ancestry of 722 years a Gentile parent. They were called "Samaritan."

But what about the two southern kingdom tribes of Judah and Benjamin? In at least 586 years they were conquered by Babylon and taken back to Babylon. How many intermarriages, rapes, concubinage, and slavery did the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin intermingle with Gentiles? These mixed heritage Jew/Gentile most assuredly did exist. But what were they called? Let's attempt to do some math:

For the sake of argument let's say there were one million Jews that were displaced by both the Assyrian and Babylonian effect. If we conclude a "remnant" is 10% of all living Jews that returned with Nehemiah in 522 BC that would leave about 900,000 Jews remaining in Gentile lands and influenced by some Assyrian and Babylonian culture - not to mention Greek culture for there were Hellenists among the people. Without a Temple and through intermingling with Gentiles (25-30 generations) how many remained true to their Hebrew heritage? Now it gets convoluted. So, if the woman at the well was a "Samaritan" referencing her "mixed heritage" descent of the ten northern tribes and Gentile, what about mixed heritage Jews of the two southern tribes and Gentile. Where are they mentioned in the gospels? They as a conquered people intermingled with Assyrian and Babylonian peoples through rape, marriage, concubinage, and slavery - where are they mentioned in the gospels? I'm sure that of the "remnant" or 100,000 Jews that returned with Nehemiah back to the Holy Land there were mixed heritage Jews and Gentile among that number. But then again, 900,000 Jews remained in and around Assyria and Babylon and Gentile lands in-between. Were there 100,000 Jews and mixed heritage Jews that returned with Nehemiah? Less? More? Think about it.

These Gentiles you think were Gentile are really mixed heritage Jews. God promised Abraham and his seed many things. God, through Moses promised many great things. But nowhere in Scripture has God made covenant with or promised anything to Gentiles.

Consider:
17 All nations [Gentiles] before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.

This cannot refer to Jews who as seed of Abraham are heirs of God's promises.

Notice Saul is referring to Hellenized Jews when he writes "Greek" and NOT "Gentile." In Scripture God calls Israel and Olive tree. There is also disobedient or "wild" Olive tree among the people of Israel. Never does God call Gentiles an Olive tree let alone a "wild" Olive tree. Therefore, those being "grafted BACK IN" can only mean disobedient or "wild" Jews.

Your translation does great damage of the truth. Saul's Galatian letter is addressed to Jews and Jewish Christians of Jew-Jew heritage and Jew-Gentile heritage for no matter the DNA dilution through intermarriage with Gentile, the Lord knows them that are His, and these Jew-Gentile offspring are still Abraham's seed are they not? How can you interpret Gentiles as being part of the Abraham and Mosaic and New Covenants when there are no promises made by God to non-Hebrew Gentiles, that there were never any Gentiles included in any of the three Hebrew covenants (Abraham, Mosaic, and New.)

Again, Saul is writing to Jews and Jewish Christians. It is the mixed heritage Jews that were "at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: Eph 2:12.

They grew up in Gentile lands (Ephesus) heavily influenced by GREEK culture (Hellenized) and most might have been uncircumcised which makes sense when the Judaizers believed that to truly be "saved" must be circumcised. No Judaizer or Jewish Christian nor anyone of Jewry would ever seek to circumcise a non-Hebrew Gentile because Jews know that the Abraham Covenant was to Abe and his seed, NOT with non-Hebrew Gentiles. It again makes sense when the issue of circumcising Gentile-influenced Jews of mixed heritage was called on by Judaizers in order to be "saved." No Jew would ever seek to circumcise a non-Hebrew Gentile in order to place them in the Abraham or Mosaic covenants because as all Jews know and were taught their own history, they KNOW God never included non-Hebrew Gentiles into the covenants.

Show me in the Old Testament where and when the Abraham and Mosaic Covenants were made that God mentioned, named, or included non-Hebrew Gentiles. AND if there are NO non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of the two covenants, then there can be no non-Hebrew Gentiles in the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah 31:31-34.
Post your evidenced from the Old Testament where and when the covenants were made by God that non-Hebrew Gentiles are included.
The word Greek in Gal 3:28 is ῞Ελλην, Héllēn; gen. Héllēnos, masc. proper noun. Greek. Distinction should be made, however, between the Greeks (Héllēnes) and the Grecians (Hellēnistaí [G1675]). The Greeks were the Greeks by birth (Act_16:1, Act_16:3; Act_18:17), or else Gentiles as opposed to Jews (Rom_2:9-10), while the Grecians (Hellēnistaí) were foreign Greek-speaking Jews as distinct from those in Palestine who were called Hebrews (Act_11:20).

Jews are not superior to Gentiles. They are one and the same. I suggest you read the NC portion of the bible without prejudices, then you will be able to accept that there is "neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise."

The Apostle Peter thought us Gentiles were unclean, but God intervened and told the a Roman centurion, “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean."

And then Peter said, "Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.".

I am a Gentile and a Holy Spirit born and filled son of the Living God. He dwells in me and assures me I am His son, and relates to me as a Father would, and His impact in my life is quite apparent to those who know me. He is the One who teaches me, and I can tell you right now your line of thinking is seriously wrong. It has zero to do with heritage, but depends upon believing God regardless of race.

jeremiah1five, you could have easily said I don't believe the New Covenant writings of the Apostles of Jesus Christ, nor the promise God made to Abraham that through his singular Seed all the nations <- this means Gentiles would be blessed, or all of the other prophecies that God would bring His salvation to the Gentiles.

I will no longer engage. I would rather live in peace than contention.

God Bless
 
The word Greek in Gal 3:28 is ῞Ελλην, Héllēn; gen. Héllēnos, masc. proper noun. Greek. Distinction should be made, however, between the Greeks (Héllēnes) and the Grecians (Hellēnistaí [G1675]). The Greeks were the Greeks by birth (Act_16:1, Act_16:3; Act_18:17), or else Gentiles as opposed to Jews (Rom_2:9-10), while the Grecians (Hellēnistaí) were foreign Greek-speaking Jews as distinct from those in Palestine who were called Hebrews (Act_11:20).
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Gal. 3:28–29.

Saul concludes his statements to Jews who were under the Law, under a schoolmaster by saying there is no difference between a Jew and a mixed heritage Jew of Gentile descent. Whether one was a Jew or a mixed heritage Jew of Gentile descent they are both STILL the seed of Abraham and rightful heirs of his promises given to him and his seed by God.
Jews are not superior to Gentiles. They are one and the same. I suggest you read the NC portion of the bible without prejudices, then you will be able to accept that there is "neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise."
Disagree. God Himself elevated the Jews above all people on the face of the earth:

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deut. 7:6.

THIS IS the Word of God.
The Apostle Peter thought us Gentiles were unclean, but God intervened and told the a Roman centurion, “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean."

And then Peter said, "Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.".

I am a Gentile and a Holy Spirit born and filled son of the Living God. He dwells in me and assures me I am His son, and relates to me as a Father would, and His impact in my life is quite apparent to those who know me. He is the One who teaches me, and I can tell you right now your line of thinking is seriously wrong. It has zero to do with heritage, but depends upon believing God regardless of race.
When God made covenant with Abraham, He separated him from every other people on the earth and He did this through covenant and through circumcision. Before this covenant everyone was of Adam also called Adamites. And since the Garden God has had an obedient people distinct from disobedient people and it was Salah, Eber's father, who separated his family from the rest of the disobedient Adamites who would not "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, Gen. 1:28.

But Salah separated himself from the rest of the Adamites and he commemorated this separation from the rest of the Adamites by naming his son, Eber, which means "crossed over." Salah separated his family from the rest of those who would not obey God to "fill the earth" (separate.)
jeremiah1five, you could have easily said I don't believe the New Covenant writings of the Apostles of Jesus Christ, nor the promise God made to Abraham that through his singular Seed all the nations <- this means Gentiles would be blessed, or all of the other prophecies that God would bring His salvation to the Gentiles.

I will no longer engage. I would rather live in peace than contention.

God Bless
God made covenant with Abram the Hebrew (Gen. 14:13.) He also extended his promises to Isaac and later to Jacob who are rightful heirs of God's promises. And for generations the covenant promises passed from firstborn son to firstborn son until we come to Jesus Christ of whom God eventually gave the promises to. But Abraham is still the beneficiary of all that God promised to HIM, among others such as a great name, a son, and land. And when Jesus Christ comes again, He will give the land Promised to Abraham to him and his seed.

Abraham and Sarah were from the same family. How does two Hebrew parents birth a non-Hebrew son?
Isaac also married in the family and birth Jacob (and Esau.) Again, how does two Hebrew parents birth a non-Hebrew son? Gentiles are NOT the seed of Abraham. They are the seed of Japheth and Ham.

Joel prophesied that God would give His Spirit to Israel and their sons and daughters. God never promised His Spirit to non-Hebrew Gentiles from the seed of Japheth and Ham. So, if you are claiming to be Gentile there must also be at least one Hebrew parent in your ancestry because all the promises of God are to Abraham, his seed, a people later to be called the children of Jacob/Israel.

There is NOTHING in Scripture documenting God making covenant with the seed of Japheth and Ham. The Mosaic Covenant of salvation was made by God to and for the children of Israel. Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy all document God's covenants and to whom He made promises to, and that people God elevated ABOVE all peoples on the face of the earth because they have the LORD as their God and the whole of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation is written to and for the Jewish people called Israel.

And you can provide any Scripture to contest these truths.
 
Gentiles were always to be participants in the New Covenant established by the blood of Christ, the servant of the Covenant. He was given as a Covenant unto the People and the Gentiles would partake Isa 42:6-7

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people[Jews], for a light of the[ Gentiles;]

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

The Light of the Gentiles is promised supernatual illumination, gospel light and understanding. This is a gospel promise predicated on the New Covenant,

Paul therefore says Eph 3:5-6

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

So supernatural spiritual light would be given applied to some Gentiles based upon Christ being given a covenant of the People Isa 42:6

God restates this Gentile participation in the covenant work of Christ in Isa 49:5-6


5 And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength.

6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob[Jews], and to restore the preserved of Israel[jews]: I will also give thee for a light to the [Gentiles], that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Also note that this light to the Gentiles is salvific and not cnfined to the jews,
This is also why we have scriptures like 1 Jn 2:2

2And he is the propitiation for our sins[jews]: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world[Gentiles].

Based upon Christ being given a Covenant to the People and also a light unto the Gentiles !
 
Being a light unto the Gentiles does imply their regeneration to illuminate them and remove their spiritual blindness and darkness of mind, Paul stated in one of his testimonials Acts 26:16-18


16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;

17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
This no doubt is in fulfillment of Covenant Promise Isa 42:6-7


6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

As we read, the receiving of Faith in Christ is in this process
 
He will not only be redemption to the Gentiles but a light for applying it to all whom he has redeemed. Yea, he will bring them from prison—from their spiritual thralldom and bondage to sin and Satan—which denotes effectual vocation Acts 13:47-48; 26:18. Thus, an effectual application of Covenant mercy and grace unto conversion is absolutely promised to all those for whom Jesus Christ died.
 
Gentiles were always to be participants in the New Covenant established by the blood of Christ, the servant of the Covenant. He was given as a Covenant unto the People and the Gentiles would partake Isa 42:6-7

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people[Jews], for a light of the[ Gentiles;]

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

The Light of the Gentiles is promised supernatual illumination, gospel light and understanding. This is a gospel promise predicated on the New Covenant,

Paul therefore says Eph 3:5-6

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

So supernatural spiritual light would be given applied to some Gentiles based upon Christ being given a covenant of the People Isa 42:6

God restates this Gentile participation in the covenant work of Christ in Isa 49:5-6


5 And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength.

6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob[Jews], and to restore the preserved of Israel[jews]: I will also give thee for a light to the [Gentiles], that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Also note that this light to the Gentiles is salvific and not cnfined to the jews,
This is also why we have scriptures like 1 Jn 2:2

2And he is the propitiation for our sins[jews]: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world[Gentiles].

Based upon Christ being given a Covenant to the People and also a light unto the Gentiles !
The Abraham Covenant is between God, Abram the Hebrew, and Abram's Hebrew seed.
The Mosaic Covenant is between God and the children of Israel (Abram's seed through Jacob, his grandson. It's a family covenant between God and the Hebrew people.)
The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes) and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.)
Where do you find non-Hebrew Gentiles in these three covenants?
There are NONE.
 
The Abraham Covenant is between God, Abram the Hebrew, and Abram's Hebrew seed.
The Mosaic Covenant is between God and the children of Israel (Abram's seed through Jacob, his grandson. It's a family covenant between God and the Hebrew people.)
The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes) and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.)
Where do you find non-Hebrew Gentiles in these three covenants?
There are NONE.
Again you cant see the truth for seeing only the fleshly, the physical, God is pleased for now you see it that way,may He have mercy on you
 
Again you cant see the truth for seeing only the fleshly, the physical, God is pleased for now you see it that way,may He have mercy on you
What I know is that Jesus Christ is the culmination of God's covenant with the children of Israel through the Mosaic Covenant and Abraham, is in covenant with God is we trace Israel's children back to Abraham.
ONLY Israel is in covenant with God. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of God's Promises to ISRAEL. Therefore, natural Olive tree Israel is now through the Holy Spirit of Promise spiritual Olive tree Israel - NO GENTILES INCLUDED.
The Abraham Covenant is found in Genesis 12, 15, and 17. Prove non-Hebrew Gentiles are mentioned or included in this covenant using Genesis 12, 15, and 17. Where does God mention non-Hebrew Gentiles?
He doesn't because there are no Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew Covenants (Abraham, Mosaic, and New.)
YOU are adding to the Bible, not me. I take Scripture as written and I don't add Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants because Gentiles are NOT in any of the three Hebrew Covenants.
 
What I know is that Jesus Christ is the culmination of God's covenant with the children of Israel through the Mosaic Covenant and Abraham, is in covenant with God is we trace Israel's children back to Abraham.
ONLY Israel is in covenant with God. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of God's Promises to ISRAEL. Therefore, natural Olive tree Israel is now through the Holy Spirit of Promise spiritual Olive tree Israel - NO GENTILES INCLUDED.
The Abraham Covenant is found in Genesis 12, 15, and 17. Prove non-Hebrew Gentiles are mentioned or included in this covenant using Genesis 12, 15, and 17. Where does God mention non-Hebrew Gentiles?
He doesn't because there are no Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew Covenants (Abraham, Mosaic, and New.)
YOU are adding to the Bible, not me. I take Scripture as written and I don't add Gentiles in any of the three Hebrew covenants because Gentiles are NOT in any of the three Hebrew Covenants.
Trusting in the flesh !
 
Trusting in the flesh !
Negative.
Pay attention. Saul says it right here (just as you tried to use against me):

3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Philippians 3:3–5.

As you can see Saul had right doctrine by saying the above.
1. He is circumcised (obedient to the Abraham Covenant.)
2. He worships God in the Spirit (obedient to the Mosaic Law.)
3. "rejoice in Christ Jesus" (is in good relationship with God through Christ.)
4. It is precisely because he is a Hebrew and of the seed of Abraham through Benjamin that he has confidence in this fact of being a Hebrew of the seed of Abraham and he has eternal life.
5. He is a Pharisee and remained a Pharisee after being born-again and remained obedient to the Law.

Saul, as representative of any Hebrew who became born-again, his spiritual birth did not excuse him from obeying the Law (which was never abolished) but only through Christ changed relation to the Law as his spirituality came into reality.
Jesus fulfilled the Law, and so every person who is born-again is justified by God (declared "Not Guilty!") of all disobedience of the Law and now the Law (which was type and shadow of the Holy Spirit) dwells in our beings and we make every attempt to obeying the Law and when we fail - and we will - the Holy Spirit convicts us from within and we make every attempt at repentance and reconciliation with God, and we go forward.
God already sees us as obeying every precept of the Law because of Christ's work and we remain obedient to the Law the rest of our lives. God doesn't see our sin when we fail, He sees the blood and remembers our sin no more, just as Jeremiah said:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour (member of another tribe), and every man his brother (member of the same tribe), saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:33–34.
 
Negative.
Pay attention. Saul says it right here (just as you tried to use against me):

3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Philippians 3:3–5.

As you can see Saul had right doctrine by saying the above.
1. He is circumcised (obedient to the Abraham Covenant.)
2. He worships God in the Spirit (obedient to the Mosaic Law.)
3. "rejoice in Christ Jesus" (is in good relationship with God through Christ.)
4. It is precisely because he is a Hebrew and of the seed of Abraham through Benjamin that he has confidence in this fact of being a Hebrew of the seed of Abraham and he has eternal life.
5. He is a Pharisee and remained a Pharisee after being born-again and remained obedient to the Law.

Saul, as representative of any Hebrew who became born-again, his spiritual birth did not excuse him from obeying the Law (which was never abolished) but only through Christ changed relation to the Law as his spirituality came into reality.
Jesus fulfilled the Law, and so every person who is born-again is justified by God (declared "Not Guilty!") of all disobedience of the Law and now the Law (which was type and shadow of the Holy Spirit) dwells in our beings and we make every attempt to obeying the Law and when we fail - and we will - the Holy Spirit convicts us from within and we make every attempt at repentance and reconciliation with God, and we go forward.
God already sees us as obeying every precept of the Law because of Christ's work and we remain obedient to the Law the rest of our lives. God doesn't see our sin when we fail, He sees the blood and remembers our sin no more, just as Jeremiah said:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour (member of another tribe), and every man his brother (member of the same tribe), saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:33–34.
You still trusting in the arm of the flesh, ethnicity
 
You still trusting in the flesh
Is that the best you can do?
I'm still waiting for you to prove through Hebrew Scriptures God making covenant with a non-Hebrew Gentile and for you to tell me his name. If you do that then you can say with Scripture supporting you that non-Hebrew Gentiles have covenant with God. What's his name? I can show you the Abraham Covenant and the Mosaic Covenant and the New Covenant between God and the Hebrew people.
C'mon, prove Gentiles have salvation. Who did God make covenant with and what is this Gentile's name?
 
Is that the best you can do?
I'm still waiting for you to prove through Hebrew Scriptures God making covenant with a non-Hebrew Gentile and for you to tell me his name. If you do that then you can say with Scripture supporting you that non-Hebrew Gentiles have covenant with God. What's his name? I can show you the Abraham Covenant and the Mosaic Covenant and the New Covenant between God and the Hebrew people.
C'mon, prove Gentiles have salvation. Who did God make covenant with and what is this Gentile's name?
You still trusting in the flesh, thats the best you can do apparently
 
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