What is the New Covenant?

[Studyman]

The Abraham Covenant in Genesis 12, 15, and 17 records God making covenant with Abram the Hebrew (Gen. 14:13) and Abram's Hebrew seed.

You are omitting the parts of God's Word that doesn't align with your specific religious sect. Here, lets post God's Word again, and this time, please show me what they say as you read them.

Gen. 17: 12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, "or" bought with money of any stranger, "which is not of thy seed".

13 He that is born in thy house, "and" he that is bought with thy money, "must needs be circumcised": and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.

14 And the uncircumcised man child ( Of Abraham Seed or not of Abraham's Seed) whose flesh of his foreskin is "not circumcised", that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken "my covenant".

You are not alone in your belief. The Pharisees also omitted much of God's Word in their religious philosophies. Modern religions, "who come in Christ's Name" also preach, like you, that God is a respecter of persons, and judges men according to the DNA they were born with, giving one group one set of laws, and other group, a different set of laws based on their DNA.

But when a person reason what is actually written, these popular religious teachings are proven to be false.

I advocate that men accept what is actually written in scriptures.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You are omitting the parts of God's Word that doesn't align with your specific religious sect. Here, lets post God's Word again, and this time, please show me what they say as you read them.

Gen. 17: 12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, "or" bought with money of any stranger, "which is not of thy seed".

13 He that is born in thy house, "and" he that is bought with thy money, "must needs be circumcised": and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.

14 And the uncircumcised man child ( Of Abraham Seed or not of Abraham's Seed) whose flesh of his foreskin is "not circumcised", that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken "my covenant".

God made covenant with Abram the Hebrew and extended this covenant to Abram's Hebrew seed.
Anyone that is born is Abram's house, bought with money, are instructed by God to be circumcised but this does not mean they are also in covenant for nowhere does God say anyone born in his house or is bought with money is included in God's covenant with Abram. Otherwise, God would make clear by saying so, but He didn't. Ishmael was circumcised but not in the Abraham Covenant. Same with Esau. He too was circumcised but was not in covenant with God but by being seed of Abram the Hebrew received the blessings of Abraham.

You are not alone in your belief. The Pharisees also omitted much of God's Word in their religious philosophies. Modern religions, "who come in Christ's Name" also preach, like you, that God is a respecter of persons, and judges men according to the DNA they were born with, giving one group one set of laws, and other group, a different set of laws based on their DNA.

There was nothing wrong with the Pharisees. Their doctrine and what Jesus taught the people was similar. Both believed in angels, marriage, resurrection, etc., except the issue between the Pharisees and Jesus was the Pharisees taught the letter of the Law and Jesus taught the spirit of the Law. The Pharisees could only understand the letter of the Law since the Holy Spirit had not yet come. But in Acts 6:7 it says "a great company of priests were obedient to the Word" which implies a majority of 70-72 priests were converted and was born-again. The chastisement of Jesus was that the Pharisees elevated their traditions above the Scripture. Otherwise, Jesus being a rabbi just may have been a Pharisee Himself. Their doctrines are remarkably similar.

See below for Scripture proof that God is a respecter of persons.

But when a person reason what is actually written, these popular religious teachings are proven to be false.

I advocate that men accept what is actually written in scriptures.

God is a respecter of persons.
PROOF:
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel [THE PERSON] and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain [THE PERSON] and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. Genesis 4:4–5.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Exodus 2:25.

Now, that you have been corrected.....

The difference between you and I is that I take out doctrine what is written, and you add to God's Word things not there. I am exegetical and you are eisegesis.

 

[Studyman]

God made covenant with Abram the Hebrew and extended this covenant to Abram's Hebrew seed.
Anyone that is born is Abram's house, bought with money, are instructed by God to be circumcised but this does not mean they are also in covenant for nowhere does God say anyone born in his house or is bought with money is included in God's covenant with Abram. Otherwise, God would make clear by saying so, but He didn't. Ishmael was circumcised but not in the Abraham Covenant. Same with Esau. He too was circumcised but was not in covenant with God but by being seed of Abram the Hebrew received the blessings of Abraham.

Your examples make my point, and expose your own preaching that God is a Respecter of persons as false. God judges men by their works, not their DNA. You just exposed your own deception. Esau was not "Circumcised of the heart", he didn't "Join himself to the Lord", he didn't "Do the Works of Abraham". Therefore, he was not considered "As one born among Israel". He was "Cut off from Israel, and the blessings of Abraham"

Abraham's SEED, are those who "Do the works of Abraham", like Isaac and Jacob and Joseph and Moses and the midwives in Egypt, and Caleb and Joshua.

There was nothing wrong with the Pharisees. Their doctrine and what Jesus taught the people was similar.

Clearly your father is the Pharisees, and I am glad that this thread has exposed your heart to others reading along. You are convinced, and are working so hard to convince everyone else that there was "nothing wrong with the Pharisees". But here is what Jesus actually said about them.

John 8: 39 They (Pharisee) answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they (Pharisees) to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

"There was nothing wrong with the Pharisees. Their doctrine and what Jesus taught the people was similar."

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Both believed in angels, marriage, resurrection, etc., except the issue between the Pharisees and Jesus was the Pharisees taught the letter of the Law and Jesus taught the spirit of the Law. The Pharisees could only understand the letter of the Law since the Holy Spirit had not yet come. But in Acts 6:7 it says "a great company of priests were obedient to the Word" which implies a majority of 70-72 priests were converted and was born-again. The chastisement of Jesus was that the Pharisees elevated their traditions above the Scripture. Otherwise, Jesus being a rabbi just may have been a Pharisee Himself. Their doctrines are remarkably similar.

The serpents words to Eve were also similar to God's. The serpent even quoted some of God's Word to convince Eve of lies about God.

Can you show me one place where the Jesus "of the Bible" said that the Pharisees were obeying the "Letter of the Law"? How about Isaiah, and Ezekiel, and Jeremiah, and Stephen and John the Baptist. Just show me one sentence from any of these Children of Abraham that says the Pharisees, the direct descendants of Abraham and Sara, were "Thrust out" of the Kingdom of God because "they obeyed the letter of God's Law".

You really should be ashamed of yourself.

See below for Scripture proof that God is a respecter of persons.

God is a respecter of persons.
PROOF:
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel [THE PERSON] and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain [THE PERSON] and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. Genesis 4:4–5.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Exodus 2:25.

Now, that you have been corrected.....

LOL. you must be a Troll, there is no way you can't see the hypocrisy in your preaching.

Abel and Cain were biological brothers, both the seed of Adam. Their DNA was the same. But God didn't judge them according to their DNA, as you are preaching on this forum. He had respect unto Abel, because Abel was faithful. He rejected Cain, because Cain was unfaithful. God treats all men the same as Paul teaches and you completely rejected.

Rom. 2: 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon "every" soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10 But glory, honour, and peace, to "every" man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 "For there is no respect of persons" with God.

The Story of Cain and Abel is "PROOF" that God is NOT a respecter of persons.

I ask this of others reading along, because you are not interested in what the Scriptures actually teach.

Why were the Children of Israel in Egypt that God had respect unto? The midwives that feared God? Moses? Or the two men who chided Moses for helping his brother who was being beaten by an Egyptian?

600,000 men, and a "mixed multitude" came out of Egypt. But who were the true Israelites that made it to the promised land?

The difference between you and I is that I take out doctrine what is written, and you add to God's Word things not there. I am exegetical and you are eisegesis.

But you also preach to the world that the Pharisees and Jesus' teaching were similar. And you preach God is a Respecter of Persons, judging people by their DNA, not their works. So I won't be adopting your judgements against me, as long as you insist on promoting falsehoods about Jesus and His Son.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I already proved through Scripture God is a respecter of persons and you reject the Scripture in order to hold to your false Constantinian theology that has no Biblical support.

 

[Studyman]

I already proved through Scripture God is a respecter of persons and you reject the Scripture in order to hold to your false Constantinian theology that has no Biblical support.

This is fascinating. The entire bible teaches that God is a Just God, and doesn't judge men according to the color of their skin, or the strength of a man, or the stature or wealth of a man, or the DNA a man was born with, or the town a man was born into. And this understanding is given to me by the Spirit of God who inspired the Holy Scriptures that I study and Live by.

Please back up your evil accusations of me by something more than your own mouth. And I will voice my disagreement with your religion, by the Word's of God.

1 Sam. 16: 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but "the Lord" looks on the heart.”

It is you who reject this scripture, not me.

Acts 10: 34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that "God shows no partiality", 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

This is the exact same thing Moses said in Ex. 12 and God's Own Law in Lev. 19, that you refuse to discuss or even acknowledge,

James 2: 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But "if ye have respect to persons", ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

Again, according to your adopted religion, my God is a Sinner, being a respecter of persons.

Rom. 2: 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 For there "is no respect of persons with God"

This is the very Gospel of the Christ/God "of the bible", given by God to Cain and Abel through Abraham and Israel, and unto us. It doesn't matter about our DNA, our skin color, our past sins, where we live, how tall or handsome or beautiful we are, what family we were born into, how rich or how poor we are. Everyone, regardless of any circumstance they find themselves in, declared to be so by the very Law of God you reject, that joins themselves to the Lord, to Love Him and to "Yield themselves and their body to Him", is considered by Him "a Child of Abraham", and heirs to the Promises of Abraham. This IS the Gospel of Christ that the Pharisees and now you, were given, but didn't believe.

Anyone who preaches that God is a Respecter of Persons, and treats one person different than another person because of the DNA in his blood, or color if his skin, is deceived. Anyone who continues to promote this blasphemy even after being showed God's Word that exposes it, is a Deceiver. And we should follow the directions Jeremiah gave to us for such a person.

Jer. 23:16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.

And Paul:

2 Cor. 6: 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Your god might be a respecter of persons, but the God of Abraham is not.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

So shouldn't a man consider how God's Laws were received, and how sins were forgiven, prior to this New covenant?

How did the people receive God's Laws in the OT? Wasn't it through the Levitical Priesthood?

Heb. 7: 11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that "another priest" should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

How are God's Laws received now? For me, somehow I have been given the Oracles of God into my own home, my own hands, and can read them with my own eyes, ponder them with my own heart. I no longer have to go find a Levite Priest to "Read Moses" to me on the Sabbath Days, as it was in the Old Covenant. How did this happen? Did I do something to make this happen? Did my dad or granddad do something to make this happen? No, we were born into a world in which God's Laws were already available to us, "Apart" from the Levitical Priesthood Law.

Paul said:

2 Tim. 3: 16 All scripture "is given" by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

So when I read the Holy Scriptures, it is God speaking to me, Yes? And if I believe Him, His Words will be written on my heart, and placed in my mind.

Am I not then, in God's New Covenant?

And what about how sins were forgiven in the Old Covenant. Was this not also through the Levitical Priesthood? Was I not required to present the blood of a goat to a Levite Priest, who would then perform sacrificial "Works of the Law", as it is written:

Lev. 4: 29 And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering. 30 And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar. 31 And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat is taken away from off the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour unto the LORD; and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him.

But I am no longer required to take a goat to a Levite Priest for forgiveness. My Priest is the Jesus "of the bible", God's OWN Begotten Son, not even a Levite. And HE offered HIS OWN Blood to God, once and for all, for my sins. So God Himself, has provided the atonement for me in the world I was born into. Did I, or my dad or granddad have anything to do with this? NO,
we were born into a world in which God's Atonement was already available to us, "Apart" from the Levitical Priesthood Law.

Truly the Jesus of the Bible, is the Prophesied Messiah and High Priest of God who fulfilled the Prophesy of the New Priesthood "After the Order of Melchizedek", AKA, the New Covenant.




Yes, Because, as it is written:

Mal. 2: 4 And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment unto you, that my covenant might be with Levi, saith the LORD of hosts. 5 My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, (Ex. 23:26) and was afraid before my name. 6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity. 7 For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is "the messenger of the LORD of hosts".

8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts. 9 Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.

And therefore:

Heb. 8: 6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent "ministry", by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

8 For finding fault with them, (Corrupt Priests of the Levitical Priesthood who led God's People astray) he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:



This is not true, according to what is actually written in the Oracles of God.

Ex. 12: 48 And when a stranger (Non-Jew) shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. 49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Lev. 19: 33 And if a stranger (Non-Jew, like Rehab) sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers (Non-Jew) in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Isaiah 56: 6 Also the sons of the stranger (Non-Jew), that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one (Jew and Non-Jew) that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; 7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.




God has already clearly shown you that HE is "No respecter of persons". That "DNA" has nothing to do with His Acceptance of men. It's what men "DO" that determines if they are "Home born" or not, or have "Faith" or not. I just posted God's Own Inspired Words that clearly show this from God's Own Words. If the foundation of your religious philosophy rejects, ignores or omits these important Biblical Facts about His Laws, His Righteousness, His Judgments, then the entire lump is leavened, just as the Pharisees, who professed to God, and believed they were Abraham's Children, when they were actually children of satan.

Please consider David's and Paul's words which describe men who reject God's judgments and laws and go about instead, establishing their own righteousness.

Rom. 3: 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: 14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: 15 Their feet are swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17 And the way of peace have they not known: 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Please also consider the very Words of the Christ spoken to those men who were Israelites by blood claiming to be Abraham's children and God's People.

John 8: 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would "do" the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do "the deeds" of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

You are right about "Israel" being God's Chosen People. But you are wrong, horribly wrong about what makes a man, "an Israelite".

Trivia question .
If a man believes NOT JESUS is the CHRIST does HE have the SPIRIT of GOD .
If a man claims to LOVE GOD but beleives not CHRIST does that man even love GOD .
NO .
can a man claim to beleive MOSES and yet DENY CHRIST JESUS . AGAIN NO .
Had you beleived MOSES you had beleived ME for HE WROTE OF ME .
HAD you LOVED GOD you would have loved ME for i came forth of GOD .
NO man can call HIM LORD but by THE SPIRIT
and no man BY THE SPIRIT calleth HIM ACCURSED . I am highly worried for this generation
cause it sure seems to be buying into
a false love that tries to imply ALL religoins serving the same GOD
But that IS IMPOSSIBLE . cause not even the jews who rejected CHRIST
were Considered the children of GOD .
IN fact . IN fact JESUS TOOK IT TO A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL .
HE said YOU OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL , to the unbeliving jews who HAD SAID WE HAVE ONE FATHER , ITS GOD .
so my advice is we FLEE any part of this interfaith finding common ground , abraham peace accords
religious tolerance fat lie they beleive is the means to attain world peace .
BECAUSE i happen to know of a big time peace maker , ONLY THAT ONE
was not called CHRIST , but rather anti christ . Be encouraged my friend . BUT ITS JESUS and HIS WORDS for this sheep .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

This is fascinating. The entire bible teaches that God is a Just God, and doesn't judge men according to the color of their skin, or the strength of a man, or the stature or wealth of a man, or the DNA a man was born with, or the town a man was born into. And this understanding is given to me by the Spirit of God who inspired the Holy Scriptures that I study and Live by.

Please back up your evil accusations of me by something more than your own mouth. And I will voice my disagreement with your religion, by the Word's of God.

1 Sam. 16: 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but "the Lord" looks on the heart.”

It is you who reject this scripture, not me.

Acts 10: 34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that "God shows no partiality", 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

This is the exact same thing Moses said in Ex. 12 and God's Own Law in Lev. 19, that you refuse to discuss or even acknowledge,

James 2: 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But "if ye have respect to persons", ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

Again, according to your adopted religion, my God is a Sinner, being a respecter of persons.

Rom. 2: 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 For there "is no respect of persons with God"

This is the very Gospel of the Christ/God "of the bible", given by God to Cain and Abel through Abraham and Israel, and unto us. It doesn't matter about our DNA, our skin color, our past sins, where we live, how tall or handsome or beautiful we are, what family we were born into, how rich or how poor we are. Everyone, regardless of any circumstance they find themselves in, declared to be so by the very Law of God you reject, that joins themselves to the Lord, to Love Him and to "Yield themselves and their body to Him", is considered by Him "a Child of Abraham", and heirs to the Promises of Abraham. This IS the Gospel of Christ that the Pharisees and now you, were given, but didn't believe.

Anyone who preaches that God is a Respecter of Persons, and treats one person different than another person because of the DNA in his blood, or color if his skin, is deceived. Anyone who continues to promote this blasphemy even after being showed God's Word that exposes it, is a Deceiver. And we should follow the directions Jeremiah gave to us for such a person.

Jer. 23:16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart,and not out of the mouth of the LORD.

And Paul:

2 Cor. 6: 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Your god might be a respecter of persons, but the God of Abraham is not.

You are correct my friend . GOD dont judge a man based on his skin tone .
BUT HE SOON will JUDGE THE WORLD BY JESUS THE CHRIST . who so ever recieved HIM
will not go under the WRATH OF GOD . all else , whether jew or gentile who denied HIM , SURELY WILL .
Allow me some parting words i think its high time this generation of christendom surely believes .
IF A MAN , whether jew or gentile, DENIES JESUS THE CHRIST , HE HAS CALLED GOD ALL MIGHTY A LIAR
as john even writes . OH HE WILL BE SURELY DAMNED TOO .
IF a man wether jew or gentile , BELIEVES ON HIM , OH HE SHALL SURELY BE SAVED .

 

[Marvelloustime]

You are correct my friend . GOD dont judge a man based on his skin tone .
BUT HE SOON will JUDGE THE WORLD BY JESUS THE CHRIST . who so ever recieved HIM
will not go under the WRATH OF GOD . all else , whether jew or gentile who denied HIM , SURELY WILL .
Allow me some parting words i think its high time this generation of christendom surely believes .
IF A MAN , whether jew or gentile, DENIES JESUS THE CHRIST , HE HAS CALLED GOD ALL MIGHTY A LIAR
as john even writes . OH HE WILL BE SURELY DAMNED TOO .
IF a man wether jew or gentile , BELIEVES ON HIM , OH HE SHALL SURELY BE SAVED .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[Marvelloustime]

Trivia question .
If a man believes NOT JESUS is the CHRIST does HE have the SPIRIT of GOD .
If a man claims to LOVE GOD but beleives not CHRIST does that man even love GOD .
NO .
can a man claim to beleive MOSES and yet DENY CHRIST JESUS . AGAIN NO .
Had you beleived MOSES you had beleived ME for HE WROTE OF ME .
HAD you LOVED GOD you would have loved ME for i came forth of GOD .
NO man can call HIM LORD but by THE SPIRIT
and no man BY THE SPIRIT calleth HIM ACCURSED . I am highly worried for this generation
cause it sure seems to be buying into
a false love that tries to imply ALL religoins serving the same GOD
But that IS IMPOSSIBLE . cause not even the jews who rejected CHRIST
were Considered the children of GOD .
IN fact . IN fact JESUS TOOK IT TO A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL .
HE said YOU OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL , to the unbeliving jews who HAD SAID WE HAVE ONE FATHER , ITS GOD .
so my advice is we FLEE any part of this interfaith finding common ground , abraham peace accords
religious tolerance fat lie they beleive is the means to attain world peace .
BECAUSE i happen to know of a big time peace maker , ONLY THAT ONE
was not called CHRIST , but rather anti christ . Be encouraged my friend . BUT ITS JESUS and HIS WORDS for this sheep .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[jeremiah1five]

This is fascinating. The entire bible teaches that God is a Just God, and doesn't judge men according to the color of their skin, or the strength of a man, or the stature or wealth of a man, or the DNA a man was born with, or the town a man was born into. And this understanding is given to me by the Spirit of God who inspired the Holy Scriptures that I study and Live by.

Please back up your evil accusations of me by something more than your own mouth. And I will voice my disagreement with your religion, by the Word's of God.

1 Sam. 16: 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but "the Lord" looks on the heart.”

It is you who reject this scripture, not me.

Acts 10: 34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that "God shows no partiality", 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

This is the exact same thing Moses said in Ex. 12 and God's Own Law in Lev. 19, that you refuse to discuss or even acknowledge,

James 2: 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But "if ye have respect to persons", ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

Again, according to your adopted religion, my God is a Sinner, being a respecter of persons.

Rom. 2: 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 For there "is no respect of persons with God"

This is the very Gospel of the Christ/God "of the bible", given by God to Cain and Abel through Abraham and Israel, and unto us. It doesn't matter about our DNA, our skin color, our past sins, where we live, how tall or handsome or beautiful we are, what family we were born into, how rich or how poor we are. Everyone, regardless of any circumstance they find themselves in, declared to be so by the very Law of God you reject, that joins themselves to the Lord, to Love Him and to "Yield themselves and their body to Him", is considered by Him "a Child of Abraham", and heirs to the Promises of Abraham. This IS the Gospel of Christ that the Pharisees and now you, were given, but didn't believe.

Anyone who preaches that God is a Respecter of Persons, and treats one person different than another person because of the DNA in his blood, or color if his skin, is deceived. Anyone who continues to promote this blasphemy even after being showed God's Word that exposes it, is a Deceiver. And we should follow the directions Jeremiah gave to us for such a person.

Jer. 23:16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart,and not out of the mouth of the LORD.

And Paul:

2 Cor. 6: 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Your god might be a respecter of persons, but the God of Abraham is not.

I see you like to pick and choose the Scripture in order to support your beliefs and ignore the Scripture that blows your beliefs away. AGAIN, God is a respecter of Israel.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Exodus 2:25.

There's my proof. I say the same thing as God, you pick and choose. That's dishonest.
You are infected with false Constantinian Gentile theology that has blinded you to not see the Scripture that clearly says God is a respecter of persons and those persons is Israel.

 

[Studyman]

I see you like to pick and choose the Scripture in order to support your beliefs and ignore the Scripture that blows your beliefs away. AGAIN, God is a respecter of Israel.

I post God's Word here for others reading along, as clearly you, like the Pharisees, will not even look at them. And this topic is near and dear to my heart, and is at the foundation of this thread. So for those who may be still following along, Please consider God's Words to Abraham.

Gen. 17: 10 This is "my covenant", which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; "Every man" child "among you" shall be circumcised.

11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

12 And he (EVERY MALE) that is eight days old shall be circumcised "among you", "every" man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which "is not" of thy seed.

13 He that is born in thy house, "and" he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh "for an everlasting covenant".

14 And the uncircumcised man child (ANY man child "among you" of thy seed, and not of thy seed) whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

And these children, both the direct descendants of Abraham, and the children of those who dwelled among them, were brought into God's Covenant with Abraham and sojourned with him, in Exodus from the religions of his father.

And in the very next chapter God speaks about Abraham further.

Gen. 18: 18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

19 For I know him, that he will command his children and "his household after him", and "they" (His Children, and those born in his home that are not his children) shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

Now Jeremiah1five, a preacher on this forum, like the Pharisees, would have you believe that God only "respects" those circumcised Children that were direct DNA descendants of Abraham, and that the other circumcised children who dwelled with him, who "Kept the Way of the Lord", and "DID" judgment and justice, were rejected by God "because" of their DNA.

He implies in his teaching, that if these circumcised Children who dwelled with Abraham and his biological family, who "Kept the way of the Lord" that God taught them through Abraham, "Cried unto God" for help, regardless of the nations they were in on their journey, that God would not "Respect them", have compassion of them, or help them, "because" of the DNA they were born with.

And even though they were Circumcised of the heart, and "Kept the Way of the Lord" and did God's judgments and Justice, they could not be part of God's covenant.

In other words, Jeremiah1five teaches that these children, who "Kept the Way of the Lord", who obeyed Abraham and were Circumcised, "were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: The Pharisees taught the same thing in Paul's time.

Now Jeremiah is free to promote whatever religion he wants, and it is good that we are exposed to the many "other voices" in the garden God placed us in.

But I don't believe the Scriptures promote such a God, and I am showing others why, in this thread I posted.

I would welcome any input from someone other than a Pharisee, who may have been reading along.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I post God's Word here for others reading along, as clearly you, like the Pharisees, will not even look at them. And this topic is near and dear to my heart, and is at the foundation of this thread. So for those who may be still following along, Please consider God's Words to Abraham.

Gen. 17: 10 This is "my covenant", which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; "Every man" child "among you" shall be circumcised.

11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

12 And he (EVERY MALE) that is eight days old shall be circumcised "among you", "every" man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which "is not" of thy seed.

13 He that is born in thy house, "and" he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh "for an everlasting covenant".

14 And the uncircumcised man child (ANY man child "among you" of thy seed, and not of thy seed) whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

And these children, both the direct descendants of Abraham, and the children of those who dwelled among them, were brought into God's Covenant with Abraham and sojourned with him, in Exodus from the religions of his father.

And in the very next chapter God speaks about Abraham further.

Gen. 18: 18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

19 For I know him, that he will command his children and "his household after him", and "they" (His Children, and those born in his home that are not his children) shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

Now Jeremiah1five, a preacher on this forum, like the Pharisees, would have you believe that God only "respects" those circumcised Children that were direct DNA descendants of Abraham, and that the other circumcised children who dwelled with him, who "Kept the Way of the Lord", and "DID" judgment and justice, were rejected by God "because" of their DNA.

He implies in his teaching, that if these circumcised Children who dwelled with Abraham and his biological family, who "Kept the way of the Lord" that God taught them through Abraham, "Cried unto God" for help, regardless of the nations they were in on their journey, that God would not "Respect them", have compassion of them, or help them, "because" of the DNA they were born with.

And even though they were Circumcised of the heart, and "Kept the Way of the Lord" and did God's judgments and Justice, they could not be part of God's covenant.

In other words, Jeremiah1five teaches that these children, who "Kept the Way of the Lord", who obeyed Abraham and were Circumcised, "were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: The Pharisees taught the same thing in Paul's time.

Now Jeremiah is free to promote whatever religion he wants, and it is good that we are exposed to the many "other voices" in the garden God placed us in.

But I don't believe the Scriptures promote such a God, and I am showing others why, in this thread I posted.

I would welcome any input from someone other than a Pharisee, who may have been reading along.

Question: Does the passage below state God has respect for the children of Israel? Yea or Nay?

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Exodus 2:25.

 

[Studyman]

Question: Does the passage below state God has respect for the children of Israel? Yea or Nay?

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Exodus 2:25.

I don't think you understand what God means when HE tells you, "For God is no respecter of persons".

Lets go back to Cain and Abel. They were blood brothers, direct descendants of Adam and Eve. But God accepted Abel, and didn't accept Cain. Just like God didn't accept the world at Noah's time, but accepted Noah. Just as God accepted Abraham, his Children and those of his household that were not his children, but didn't accept Sodom and Gamora. Just as God accepted Joshua and the Children of Israel, but didn't accept the Amalekites

You are preaching that God accepts or rejects a person, based on their biological blood line. That, and I quote you, "God's Covenant was only with the direct descendants of Abraham and Sara". This implies that if the circumcised Non-Hebrew children who sojourned with Abraham and Moses, cried unto God, HE wouldn't have compassion on them, or help them, because of the DNA in their blood.

But God doesn't choose who to respect and who to reject, based in the blood line or DNA they were born with. If this was true, God wouldn't have accepted Jacob and rejected Esau.

When the Bible says, "God is no respecter of persons", this means HE treats all men the same, regardless of the color of their skin, or the DNA they were born with.

Your preaching that if a sinner did ancestory.com, and found they were direct descendants of Abraham and Sara, they would be saved is foolishness, and the Bible doesn't teach this at all.

When it says God is no respecter of persons, it means HE treats all men the same.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I don't think you understand what God means when HE tells you, "For God is no respecter of persons".

Lets go back to Cain and Abel. They were blood brothers, direct descendants of Adam and Eve. But God accepted Abel, and didn't accept Cain. Just like God didn't accept the world at Noah's time, but accepted Noah. Just as God accepted Abraham, his Children and those of his household that were not his children, but didn't accept Sodom and Gamora. Just as God accepted Joshua and the Children of Israel, but didn't accept the Amalekites

You are preaching that God accepts or rejects a person, based on their biological blood line. That, and I quote you, "God's Covenant was only with the direct descendants of Abraham and Sara". This implies that if the circumcised Non-Hebrew children who sojourned with Abraham and Moses, cried unto God, HE wouldn't have compassion on them, or help them, because of the DNA in their blood.

But God doesn't choose who to respect and who to reject, based in the blood line or DNA they were born with. If this was true, God wouldn't have accepted Jacob and rejected Esau.

When the Bible says, "God is no respecter of persons", this means HE treats all men the same, regardless of the color of their skin, or the DNA they were born with.

Your preaching that if a sinner did ancestory.com, and found they were direct descendants of Abraham and Sara, they would be saved is foolishness, and the Bible doesn't teach this at all.

When it says God is no respecter of persons, it means HE treats all men the same.

God "respects" a person or doesn't "respect" a person not because of bloodline, but merely on the pleasure of His good will.

13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:12–13.

And the pleasure of His will is bound to covenant promises He's made to the serpent, to Noah, to Abram and his seed, a people that God would grow to be identified as the children of Israel (Jacob.)
THEY possess the covenant promises of God, and they alone are the redeemed of God.

For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:34.

The whole purpose of God creating heaven, earth, and man was to take out a specific people to Himself. Follow the covenants and you will find God made promises to a certain group of people and their bloodline. It is this people as says the Scripture, that God has respect to and for:

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Exodus 2:25.

And there are a people God does not have respect for:

17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.

God's Chosen people? The Jews/Hebrews.
God also calls them His Bride, His Church, the apple of His eye, etc.
A holy nation, a kingdom of priests, etc.