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and once you dig even deeper
then the continuation of corruptions
by esau (= corrupt egypt souls)
becomes more clear
the kjv being a sorcery text
What is the New Covenant?
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then the continuation of corruptions
by esau (= corrupt egypt souls)
becomes more clear
the kjv being a sorcery text
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No. Adam is described in I think Isaiah. 14?,
as lucifer/satan. same being..
Esau are his sons..
in the other reality these are called sons of Ammon
when incarnated here they are esaus ...
= corrupt souls, 'adopted' sons of Adam
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I know...
esau runs theology depts, often functions as pastors..
and trains poor jacob as to Christianity ..
it's a mess.
The last two posts on septuagint and Ptolemy II
may clarify (a little bit) why my view doesn't match kjv.
I agree about nations, but the translation is correct. Further down the same chapter we have this:
Isa 10:11 [The Assyrian says] "Shall I not do to Jerusalem and her idols as I have done to Samaria and her images?"
The idea here is that Israel and Judah are being included alongside the heathen "nations" because of their idolatry.
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I'd need to translate it..
but the images would be the male and female Originals
= the two sticks, the two witnesses...
and what did adam do?
Gave us over to the Demon nations
who tortured us out of our eden bodies..
now...they did not conquer eden
just to do something
they conquered her to Steal..
and that is what they did,
which is the point of Daniels oven
(the torture above)
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further , assyria is adam's region in mystery babylon
in the other reality... so right away
it seems to be corrupt, the line you quoted,
since jerusalem is always a Negative mystery
babylon location , term..
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esau and adam have the same
evil talking points....
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Gentile inclusion in Gods Covenant with Israel through Christ, was always intimated by some Prophets like Isaiah here Isa 42:1-7
Behold my servant {Christ], whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 ;I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
Light here is spiritual enlighten which comes with regeneration and spiritual life. This is part of His Mediator New Covenant work
Its the Light of Life Jn 8 12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
This indicates that the Gentiles are recipients of Covenant Gospel promises.
Also Isa 49:6
6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
See this, the tribes of Judah and preserved of Israel is the election of grace among the jews, but He adds and also Bless the Gentiles, the elect of grace among the Gentiles, same Covenant Blessings.
The New Covenant brings Salvation to all the ends of the earth, every tribe, tongue and nation
Behold my servant {Christ], whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 ;I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
Light here is spiritual enlighten which comes with regeneration and spiritual life. This is part of His Mediator New Covenant work
Its the Light of Life Jn 8 12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
This indicates that the Gentiles are recipients of Covenant Gospel promises.
Also Isa 49:6
6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
See this, the tribes of Judah and preserved of Israel is the election of grace among the jews, but He adds and also Bless the Gentiles, the elect of grace among the Gentiles, same Covenant Blessings.
The New Covenant brings Salvation to all the ends of the earth, every tribe, tongue and nation
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Are you saying the translations older than the KJV are even more corrupt?
Esau figures how in what you called corruptions?
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the septuagint corruption is clear in the screenshot....
where demetrius states that of course ptolemy ii, referenced
there as (heathen) earthly royalty to decide what the right words
God said should be per ptolemy for his library of alexandria...of course,
changing God's words to fit his own views... and remarking
how his experts will change the words according to
what they think best
since per them the hebrew
expression (in their evil opinion) is too crude...
ptolemy ii was a follower of greek theology
= pythagorean, egyptian religion...
... (mystery-babylon)
esau being corrupt souls... as servants of
mystery babylon.. (and of ptolemy ii)
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yes, the corrupt septuagint.
see here, plus the attachment from 200 bc
right below what i posted.. the embed
places on an excerpt , to see the screen
shot from the text I am discussing,
click the title....
And so you assume this as true rather than scripture
Under Ptolemaic patronage
Founding
Bust excavated at the Villa of the Papyri depicting Ptolemy II Philadelphus, who is believed to have been the one to establish the Library as an actual institution,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEPhillips2010-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> although plans for it may have been developed by his father Ptolemy I Soter<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTETracy2000343–344-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>The Library was one of the largest and most significant libraries of the ancient world, but details about it are a mixture of history and legend.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMacLeod20001–2-16"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a> The earliest known surviving source of information on the founding of the Library of Alexandria is the pseudepigraphic Letter of Aristeas, which was composed between c. 180 and c. 145 BC.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-Lindberg1980-23"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTETracy2000343-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMacLeod20002-14"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a> It claims the Library was founded during the reign of Ptolemy I Soter (c. 323–c. 283 BC) and that it was initially organized by Demetrius of Phalerum, a student of Aristotle who had been exiled from Athens and taken refuge in Alexandria within the Ptolemaic court.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTETracy2000343-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMacLeod20002-14"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-25"><span>[</span>25<span>]</span></a> Nonetheless, the Letter of Aristeas is very late and contains information that is now known to be inaccurate.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTETracy2000343-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a> According to Diogenes Laertius, Demetrius was a student of Theophrastus, a student of Aristotle.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-26"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a> Other sources claim that the Library was instead created under the reign of Ptolemy I's son Ptolemy II Philadelphus (283–246 BC).<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEPhillips2010-3"><span>[</span>3</a>
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what i assume is that the aristeas letter was written,And so you assume this as true rather than scripture
Under Ptolemaic patronage
Founding
Bust excavated at the Villa of the Papyri depicting Ptolemy II Philadelphus, who is believed to have been the one to establish the Library as an actual institution,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEPhillips2010-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> although plans for it may have been developed by his father Ptolemy I Soter<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTETracy2000343–344-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>
The Library was one of the largest and most significant libraries of the ancient world, but details about it are a mixture of history and legend.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMacLeod20001–2-16"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a> The earliest known surviving source of information on the founding of the Library of Alexandria is the pseudepigraphic Letter of Aristeas, which was composed between c. 180 and c. 145 BC.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-Lindberg1980-23"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTETracy2000343-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMacLeod20002-14"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a> It claims the Library was founded during the reign of Ptolemy I Soter (c. 323–c. 283 BC) and that it was initially organized by Demetrius of Phalerum, a student of Aristotle who had been exiled from Athens and taken refuge in Alexandria within the Ptolemaic court.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTETracy2000343-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMacLeod20002-14"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-25"><span>[</span>25<span>]</span></a> Nonetheless, the Letter of Aristeas is very late and contains information that is now known to be inaccurate.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTETracy2000343-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a> According to Diogenes Laertius, Demetrius was a student of Theophrastus, a student of Aristotle.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-26"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a> Other sources claim that the Library was instead created under the reign of Ptolemy I's son Ptolemy II Philadelphus (283–246 BC).<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#cite_note-FOOTNOTEPhillips2010-3"><span>[</span>3</a>
it is an ancient text and a historical document
regarding a copied text known as septuagint
to be placed in the library of alexandria
I also assume esau does evil things
as we have witnessed all through history,
including murdering Christ
and almost half of his apostles
and almost half of his prophets
along with many souls of Him
murdered continuing up through
the inquisitions and now
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ptolemy's coronation , per aristeas letter,
was just as costly and paid in gold coin,
as all the wealth of
the richest man today...
he was certainly in a position
to murder, alter texts and
be as depraved as he possibly
could be , as would be
expected of an evil heathen..
today of course heathens
are normalized
and called secular...
and they continue to
do evil things.
was just as costly and paid in gold coin,
as all the wealth of
the richest man today...
he was certainly in a position
to murder, alter texts and
be as depraved as he possibly
could be , as would be
expected of an evil heathen..
today of course heathens
are normalized
and called secular...
and they continue to
do evil things.
Why should I believe Aristeas letter when I have what claims to be from God
Is Aristeas more honest or powerful than God? More able to propagate the truth or be more concerned the truth may come out than He?
PS nowhere in scripture is Esau stated to be active throughout all history.
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