What is Communion ?

Keiw1 said:
Gibberish is from the demons.
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First Corinthians chapter 14 is about demonic tongues? Speaking unto God in mysteries with unknown demonic tongues? Is that what Paul was instructing the church?
Sounds like you have the first century church in the rearview mirror and not in front of you.
 
Truther said:
1 Cor 14 says unknown tongues is our human spirit praying mysteries, correct?
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Paul speaks of different kinds of tongues, 1 Corinthians 12:10, and also tongues of men and angels, 1 Cor. 13:1. So there were foreign languages, and languages of angels, which we do not understand.

Again, nobody here said that Paul ignored the necessity of baptism. He knew that it was commanded by the Lord. Most likely he had some of the men that accompanied him perform baptisms, or fellow believers in the locations where he went. He was just saying that his primary calling was to preach the gospel.
 
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Truther said:
First Corinthians chapter 14 is about demonic tongues? Speaking unto God in mysteries with unknown demonic tongues? Is that what Paul was instructing the church?
Sounds like you have the first century church in the rearview mirror and not in front of you.
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1Cor 13:8--they have been done away with. Today is just gibberish.
 
dwight92070 said:
Paul speaks of different kinds of tongues, 1 Corinthians 12:10, and also tongues of men and angels, 1 Cor. 13:1. So there were foreign languages, and languages of angels, which we do not understand.

Again, nobody here said that Paul ignored the necessity of baptism. He knew that it was commanded by the Lord. Most likely he had some of the men that accompanied him perform baptisms, or fellow believers in the locations where he went. He was just saying that his primary calling was to preach the gospel.
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I was talking about 1 Cor 14. Completely different subject here. It is specific to unknown tongues. You can’t read or understand the chapter?
 
Keiw1 said:
You actually think making things up really works. You don't know a thing about me. thus you reason falsely. No wonder 99% are being mislead.
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You have no supernatural experience per 1 Cor 14.
This means you don’t pray in the Spirit per the chapter.

This also means you don’t speak unto God (in mysteries).

Which means you only pray with understanding. And not in the Spirit.

Every thing Paul taught about tongues per the chapter that is supernatural is not part of your life.

He also quoted the Prophet in the chapter about stammering lips and another tongue would God speak to His people, which you don’t do.
 
7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end,…

The gifts were done away???
 
Truther said:
You have no supernatural experience per 1 Cor 14.
This means you don’t pray in the Spirit per the chapter.

This also means you don’t speak unto God (in mysteries).

Which means you only pray with understanding. And not in the Spirit.

Every thing Paul taught about tongues per the chapter that is supernatural is not part of your life.

He also quoted the Prophet in the chapter about stammering lips and another tongue would God speak to His people, which you don’t do.
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Why quote Paul, you don't believe him-1Cor 8:6--There is ONE God to all the Father)--see he did not say-Father, son and holy spirit. Catholicism made that god up.
 
Keiw1 said:
Why quote Paul, you don't believe him-1Cor 8:6--There is ONE God to all the Father)--see he did not say-Father, son and holy spirit. Catholicism made that god up.
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Stop right there. The word for Lord means the same thing as the word for God.
1 Cor 8:6 - "yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him."
Did not God create all that exists? Yet Jesus, the Lord, is here credited with having created all things.
This is reiterated in John 1:1-3.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being."
Only God was not created. And Jesus created all things. Jesus could not have created Himself, so He cannot be a created being.
 
Keiw1 said:
Why quote Paul, you don't believe him-1Cor 8:6--There is ONE God to all the Father)--see he did not say-Father, son and holy spirit. Catholicism made that god up.
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There are 2 entities, not 3...


For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

God and the man.

All of what God consists of is inside the omnipresent man.

This is what qualifies Jesus as his God.

They are unified as one via the Col 2:9 effect on Jesus.
 
Doug Brents said:
Stop right there. The word for Lord means the same thing as the word for God.
1 Cor 8:6 - "yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him."
Did not God create all that exists? Yet Jesus, the Lord, is here credited with having created all things.
This is reiterated in John 1:1-3.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being."
Only God was not created. And Jesus created all things. Jesus could not have created Himself, so He cannot be a created being.
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Lord does not mean God. The word is NOT called capitol G God in the Greek lexicons at John 1:1-- There have been many translations in history with a god to the word at John 1:1 because its correct. John 1:3 things were created through Jesus. That means another did the creating.
 
Truther said:
There are 2 entities, not 3...


For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

God and the man.

All of what God consists of is inside the omnipresent man.

This is what qualifies Jesus as his God.

They are unified as one via the Col 2:9 effect on Jesus.
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Jesus is Gods image An image is NEVER the real thing. Actually God did all the powerful works through the man Jesus Acts 2:22)Jesus can do 0 of his own initiative( John :30)
 
Keiw1 said:
Jesus is Gods image An image is NEVER the real thing. Actually God did all the powerful works through the man Jesus Acts 2:22)Jesus can do 0 of his own initiative( John :30)
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We agree on the highlighted.

But after his God raised him from the dead and God fully indwelled him bodily, he was given all power.

With every bit of what his God is, inside him, he is God by default.

Now, being the express image of the invisible God is accomplished by having God inside him, speaking and working through him.
 
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Truther said:
We agree on the highlighted.

But after his God raised him from the dead and God fully indwelled him bodily, he was given all power.

With every bit of what his God is, inside him, he is God by default.

Now, being the express image of the invisible God is accomplished by having God inside him, speaking and working through him.
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Jesus answers you-Rev 3:12-back in heaven.
 
Keiw1 said:
Jesus has always had a God-Psalm 45:7( before earth) on earth( John 20:17) rev 3:12( back in heaven. The fact remains 100%-God does not have a God.
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I agree. However, the God that raised Jesus from the dead, made him and omnipresent human spirit, every bit of what God consists of dwells inside the omnipresent body of Jesus now. This makes Jesus our God by default. There are not two Gods but one God inside an omnipresent man.

God now “Gods us” from within Jesus, His omnipresent human spirit, son
 
Truther said:
I agree. However, the God that raised Jesus from the dead, made him and omnipresent human spirit, every bit of what God consists of dwells inside the omnipresent body of Jesus now. This makes Jesus our God by default. There are not two Gods but one God inside an omnipresent man.

God now “Gods us” from within Jesus, His omnipresent human spirit, son
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the bible doesn't say that.
 

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