Thomas... My Lord and my God

[Walt]

First of all, you missed the context of 2 Tim 3:16. That should be a clue of how you are not ready to interpret scripture.

Of course Rom 15:4 does not say you will read the scriptures correctly either. Plus, those scriptures were primarily the OT passages to guide them. I did not have to look at all the passages to see how you had gotten off track.

This then means you need to learn from qualified teachers rather than make up the meaning of text on your own.

Thank you for your comments. I have read those scriptures many times over and over, I think we have a big difference of opinion because I don't interpret scripture, the words in the scriptures themselves do all the explaining I find necessary.

Should I get an interpreter to understand what you're writing?
I don't understand why you want to argue these points, I was just asking a couple friendly questions and I wanted a friendly answer back.

If you were looking for an argument, I am not your guy!

 

[mikesw]

Thank you for your comments. I have read those scriptures many times over and over, I think we have a big difference of opinion because I don't interpret scripture, the words in the scriptures themselves do all the explaining I find necessary.

Should I get an interpreter to understand what you're writing?
I don't understand why you want to argue these points, I was just asking a couple friendly questions and I wanted a friendly answer back.

If you were looking for an argument, I am not your guy!

If you like understanding, then you should not neglect the help offered. And you probably will need an interpreter for what I am writing -- I think people will encounter that situation. I am glad to offer that feedback to you.

 

[Walt]

If you like understanding, then you should not neglect the help offered. I am glad to offer that.

If you start with making comments that I cannot understand what is written in English in the Bible, do you expect me to listen to anything you have to say?

How can I even talk with a person that doubts my ability to understand words in English?

 

[mikesw]

If you start with making comments that I cannot understand what is written in English in the Bible, do you expect me to listen to anything you have to say?

How can I even talk with a person that doubts my ability to understand words in English?

If a person is humble, he will accept guidance in a document such as the Bible that involves many details of language studies and historic context. If everyone had a correct interpretation of scripture, then there would be no disputes on the meaning. However, people have errors of interpretation. Go figure.

 

[Walt]

If a person is humble, he will accept guidance in a document such as the Bible that involves many details of language studies and historic context. If everyone had a correct interpretation of scripture, then there would be no disputes on the meaning. However, people have errors of interpretation. Go figure.

If we can't even agree on what a scripture says, what's the point?

 

[mikesw]

If we can't even agree on what a scripture says, what's the point?

For Christians, there is the concept of iron sharpening iron. When people get corrected of errors, they should be happier not angry.

 

[Walt]

For Christians, there is the concept of iron sharpening iron. When people get corrected of errors, they should be happier not angry.

Sorry I can't understand your words, since they're written in English, and I think I'm going to take your advice and get a interpreter. Mr Christian.

 

[mikesw]

Sorry I can't understand your words, since they're written in English, and I think I'm going to take your advice and get a interpreter. Mr Christian.

I'm not surprised. You have been consistent in misunderstanding. I can still try to help you.

 

[Walt]

I'm not surprised. You have been consistent in misunderstanding. I can still try to help you.

Thank you, please do you teach first grade reading and comprehension? How are you going to help anyone when you can't get past one sentence of scripture?

 

[Walt]

Why are the words at 2 Timothy 3:16 not valuable to our conversation?

Please explain with a scripture not your explanation.

 

[mikesw]

Thank you, please do you teach first grade reading and comprehension? How are you going to help anyone when you can't get past one sentence of scripture?

If you cannot get past one sentence of scripture, I can still try to guide you. But really, your take from the scripture falls short of comprehension. I pointed out both the 2 Tim 3:16 and Rom 15:4 errors of your interpretation. Then John 17:17 is a message to the closest disciples of Christ that speaks of them being sanctified by the truth. That does not mean that you comprehend it. Sorry for the bad news.

 

[Walt]

If you cannot get past one sentence of scripture, I can still try to guide you. But really, your take from the scripture falls short of comprehension. I pointed out both the 2 Tim 3:16 and Rom 15:4 errors of your interpretation. Then John 17:17 is a message to the closest disciples of Christ that speaks of them being sanctified by the truth. That does not mean that you comprehend it. Sorry for the bad news.

I just listed the scriptures I didn't interpret them. What are you even talking about?

 

[mikesw]

Why are the words at 2 Timothy 3:16 not valuable to our conversation?

uhh. You are not in the role of Timothy plus you are interpreting that as if the text is saying you will comprehend scripture -- but that is not even the concept in mind. Basically, the concept is that people who misbehave can be corrected by Timothy's use of OT instruction to admonish them.

 

[mikesw]

I just listed the scriptures I didn't interpret them. What are you even talking about?

ok then. Then you are ready for instruction about the meaning. Good I'm here.

 

[Walt]

uhh. You are not in the role of Timothy plus you are interpreting that as if the text is saying you will comprehend scripture -- but that is not even the concept in mind. Basically, the concept is that people who misbehave can be corrected by Timothy's use of OT instruction to admonish them.

Peter considered Paul's letters to be scripture, stating in 2 Peter 3:15-16 that Paul wrote with wisdom given to him

 

[Walt]

ok then. Then you are ready for instruction about the meaning. Good I'm here.

No!! You are not my instructor!

 

[mikesw]

Peter considered Paul's letters to be scripture, stating in 2 Peter 3:15-16 that Paul wrote with wisdom given to him

Anyhow, you did not just post verses. You also asked "Is it okay for me to get all the information I need to be a Christian, 100% from the Bible Alone"
So you obviously are wanting and needing help.

 

[mikesw]

Peter considered Paul's letters to be scripture, stating in 2 Peter 3:15-16 that Paul wrote with wisdom given to him

good for Peter. Mentioning that simply confirms you are misreading 2 Tim 3:16.

 

[Walt]

So you obviously are wanting and needing help

no again!.......... I have had conversations with biblical Unitarians and the ones that I have talked to, get their superseding information from the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit, not from the Bible itself. But I do know there are different kinds of Unitarians and I was just asking a few questions to get a conversation started.

I listed a few scriptures as a reference i thought was relevant, i have a friend in another chat forum, that prays to God and God reveals Revelations to him in prayer, i don't do it that way but that's the way he does it and we're like really good friends.

 

[Walt]

good for Peter. Mentioning that simply confirms you are misreading 2 Tim 3:16.

Maybe you should talk with yourself, and get someone to talk to that thinks just like you?