Thomas... My Lord and my God

[brightfame52]

Let's stay on this though. So is flesh a thing? Is it made of atoms, elements, miscellaneous compounds? Yes? That's just like everything else in the physical universe. So Jesus was created, not incarnated. You know it's true!

Jesus was Created in His Manhood as Mediator, Head of the Church, but in His Person as the Word Jn 1:1 He is God, uncreated, unbegotten, and Self Existent !

 

[Peterlag]

That is an ignorant rejection of the divinity of Christ. You may be have heard that Trinitarians recognize Jesus' humanity. This is the testimony of Jesus both in a divine sense and a human sense. There is no twisting necessary, only the testimony of scripture.

There is no debate possible with you trinity folks because you get to have it both ways. You get to...

1.) Make Jesus God when you think it fits the Bible verse.
2.) Make Jesus a man when you think it needs to fit the Bible verse.

God could not pretend to be a man to redeemed us. The devil would have called Him out on it if a man was required to redeem us and God tried to sneak in pretending to be a man.

 

[mikesw]

There is no debate possible with you trinity folks because you get to have it both ways. You get to...

1.) Make Jesus God when you think it fits the Bible verse.
2.) Make Jesus a man when you think it needs to fit the Bible verse.

God could not pretend to be a man to redeemed us. The devil would have called Him out on it if a man was required to redeem us and God tried to sneak in pretending to be a man.

Amazing what God can do-- much more than a unitarian's one-dimensional idea of God.

You then seem to focus on what Satan would do but perhaps it was not in the devil's self-interest to go beyond the temptations and reveal who Jesus is. Satan obviously knew who Jesus was when coming to Jesus to tempt him. Also, Satan actually ended up acting unknowingly of what Christ would achieve. Overall then it is hard to imagine what a unitarian's goal is in rejecting all these important details.

 

[synergy]

28:20 God you've got to understand that that Greek word teknon is never once used in
28:26 the New Testament to describe Jesus as the Son of God because we all agree...
28:31 Unitarians Muslims Christians the Quran and the Bible... all agree God does not
28:36 have sex. he does not have a wife a girlfriend or babies and I think Ken would agree with that. okay.
28:42 so the second Greek word that describes the Son and English would be huios. it
28:49 means the same nature as and you can see this in Luke 10 6 where it describes the
28:54 son of peace it means that you have the nature of peace you see in Ephesians 5:6

Good catch, differentiating teknon from huios.

Jesus is the only Son (huios) of Man whose Ascension to the Father was prophesied in Dan 7:13-14.