Thomas... My Lord and my God

[Peterlag]

if you were, but YOU are not...... JESUS is... thank you.. (smile).

101G.

Holy Smokes I thought all these years that if I said believe in me. That it meant to believe in who I am which is a man. I never knew that every-time I said believe in me that I was asking people to believe I was God.

 

[dwight92070]

There's no verse in the Bible that says we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

" ... for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins." John 8:24
"I and the Father are one." John 10:30
"He who has seen Me has seen the Father;" John 14:9

In each of these, Jesus is claiming to be the Father. If that is true, and it is, then we are obligated to believe and confess that truth.

 

[Peterlag]

Still ludicrous. You pretend to know what was going on in his mind, acknowledging first that he was actually seeing the Lord, and then second, acknowledging that it was God who made that possible. No one can know that. However, if we just simply believe what John said, "Thomas answered and said to Him, 'My Lord and my God.' " - we see that Thomas is directing his words to Jesus, acknowledging clearly who He is - his Lord and his God.
To reject the plain meaning of this sentence shows your hardness of heart, but then, so does your rejection of all the other verses that make His Deity plain. You don't want the truth.

" ... for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins." John 8:24
"Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham came into being, I AM." John 8:58

Do you think it's odd that you don't want me to say that I think Thomas saw Jesus and his God when he saw the resurrected Christ? But it's not odd that you pretend to know what was going on in his mind, acknowledging first that he was actually seeing God, and then second, acknowledging that he was calling Jesus God?

 

[Peterlag]

" ... for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins." John 8:24

I am does not mean I'm God. It means I am.

 

[dwight92070]

As Civic has said, you have the spirit of anti-Christ.

 

[DavidTree]

Indeed this is a fine example of a hyper-literalist post where the essence of Christ is rejected because the interpreter thinks that scripture cannot be integrated and summarized beyond the surface content of scripture. Worse yet, much of the scripture content and mysteries have to be rejected because they are outside of the hyper-literalist reading.

He cannot help himself.

He gave his mind/heart over to unbelief.

When a person does this after being spoken to with the Holy Scriptures, over much time and examination and they just continue to refuse, God will just let them remain as they are = in unbelief.

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."

Some of us diligently seek the TRUTH from God's Mouth.

Others spend their time arguing against the Truth.