Thomas... My Lord and my God

[Fred]

All of the verses about talking to Jesus which do not mention prayer.

They were in His physical presence when doing so.
You aren't.

So it doesn't apply.

 

[Runningman]

They were in His physical presence when doing so.
You aren't.

So it doesn't apply.

Which verse then?

 

[Fred]

Which verse then?

There are no verses that show you are in His physical presence when talking to Him.

 

[Runningman]

There are no verses that show you are in His physical presence when talking to Him.

Ever heard of the Bible? In the gospels they were physically with Jesus.

 

[Peterlag]

Wow. God made Jesus both Lord and Christ. I don't know how this is unclear to them.

Acts 2
36Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

My theory and also why nobody can answer me is their whole religious concept is about Jesus being God. That's all they know and so if you take that away from them they have nothing.

 

[Peterlag]

Because the truth of Deuteronomy 6:4 (as well 6:13) is taught even after the resurrection of Christ.

“Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh alone,” where echad is translated “alone,” is one of the strongest texts against the Trinity. The Bible affirms that God is “one,” not “three-in-one” or some other plurality. This has been the rallying cry of Jews down through the ages who have stood aggressively against any form of polytheism or pantheism.

 

[Fred]

Ever heard of the Bible? In the gospels they were physically with Jesus.

You are not in the gospel.

 

[Fred]

“Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh alone,” where echad is translated “alone,” is one of the strongest texts against the Trinity. The Bible affirms that God is “one,” not “three-in-one” or some other plurality. This has been the rallying cry of Jews down through the ages who have stood aggressively against any form of polytheism or pantheism.

Thus the teaching of Deut. 6:4 still applies to us today - the same with Deut. 6:13.