You shall worship the Lord you God only.

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

This generation follows the smooth preaching hirelings . Who have totally corrupted the true form of christianity
into a sin accepting unbelief accepting total mess .
And now if a true sheep even dares to speak truth he makes himself a prey to their teeth .
What came upon Israel of old has come upon much of christendom today .
The prophets prophesy for money , and tell of dreams and visoins of peace
and none does repent of his wicked ways for they have lied to them and called evil good and good evil .
BUT HAD they actually preached GODS words this people had repented .
THEY PREACH THE SMOOTH things that the flesh of man so dearly loves
and it giveth them their wicked hearts desires with a promise , A false one , of salvation .
But if one follows another jesus , WOE BE UNTO THEM , they are still in their sins and will die in their sins .

 

[Studyman]

Correct , when paul was writing to the hebrews
THIS REST he spoke of what not about the earthen sabbath
it was about THIS REST . COME UNTO ME ALL YE WHO DO LABOR and are weary AND YE SHALL FIND
rest for your souls . Paul was writing about FAITH IN CHRIST , somehow some groups
got that one messed up . Sda perhaps and it seems some within the jewish movements .

I don't advocate for the religious sect of the Pharisees, or Baptists or SDA or the Catholic's sabbaths. But when Jesus said to "Come to Him", that would also include listening to and "Doing" His Sayings, in my view. HE said to "Live by" the Word's of God. Paul said to "Walk in" the Works God "before ordained that we should walk in them". The God of Abraham did create for man, according to the Jesus "of the bible" a Sabbath Commandment. And according to Him, this is a "Feast of the Lord" and it is Holy.

We can "DO" as Jesus said, and SEEK God's Righteousness to find the meaning of His Sabbath Fast, and the purpose of it, be going to the ONLY Holy scriptures that were available to Paul.

Yes, their was a sabbath of the Pharisees (Jews religion). But God's Sabbath was not a "Jewish sabbath". It was a Sabbath created, sanctified by Him from creation and was, according to the Jesus "of the Bible", "made" for man. "Many" promoters of this world's religions, who call Jesus Lord, Lord, believe we can overcome this world by adopting the Catholic sabbath, or Jewish sabbath, or SDA sabbath.

According to what is written, I believe this philosophy leads to destruction, even though "Many" are on this path.

UNBELIEF . paul spoke of UNBELIEF . ENTERING INTO HIS REST , BELIEF , BELEIF IN CHRIST .
Entering into works covenant , back under the law is not good , because no man can be justified by the law
but only exposed as the sinner they are my friend .

Again, there is a lot of deceptions being promoted by this world's religious system. If you would consider Isaiah 1, God, through Isaiah, is describing a religious people who rejected His Judgments, His commandments, and polluted His Sabbaths. Jesus described this as "Full well transgressing God's commandments that they may keep their own religious traditions".

And yet every week they would come to God with the Blood of an innocent, unblemished sacrifice, "as per the Law" to justify their open disobedience to Him. Hear God's Words concerning such a people.

Is. 1: 10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

Paul is addressing the SAME religious philosophy in the Pharisees in Romans 3. These men have been convinced, by the prince of this world, that they can "work iniquity", live in transgression of God's Commandments by their own man-made traditions, and then be "Justified by Works of the Law", as Isaiah showed, by offering to God for their rebellion, the Blood of innocent, unblemished sacrifice as required by Law for atonement.

The SAME exact thing continues today, and is the very reason why God had these Word's written for our admonition. "Christianity", or as Jesus calls it, "Many" who call Him Lord, Lord", has rejected God's Judgments and created their own. They have rejected God's Statutes and created their own high days. They have created images of God in the likeness of man, which is SIN. And yet, every week they offer to God for their Sins, the Blood of an innocent, unblemished being, "as per the Law" to justify their adopted religion.

20 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh "be justified" in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

This world's religious system has wrested Paul's Words in this, and many other regards, as is also prophesied.

What does God want from us? Perpetual pouring out of the Christ's Blood to justify lawlessness? No my friend. God tells us by His Words to Cain, His Prophets, His Son and the Apostles HE gave to His Son.

Is. 1: 16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before "mine eyes"; cease to do evil; 17 Learn to do well (As defined by God, not this world's religious system) seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the "mouth of the LORD" hath spoken it.

I advocate that we not only Listen to the Holy Spirit talking to us, but that we become "Doers" of the sayings as well.

WHILE the law sure is HOLY and GOOD , by it CAN NO MAN be justified .
Added it was due to trangressions , due to GOD was amongst the people
and To keep the people safe , THE LAW was added TILL THE PROMISE CAME .

Again, this is what this world's religious system teaches. But the Bible teaches that the old Priesthood Covenant "Covenant with Levi", or as it is called in Hebrews 7, "The Levitical Priesthood", was the Law Abraham didn't have, that was ADDED "Till the Priest "After the Order of Melchizedek should come". He was the Prophesied "SEED", Yes?

According to God's OWN definition of His New covenant, what changed from the Old Covenant? You can look for yourself.

#1. How God's Law was received.

#2. How forgiveness of Sin was provided for.

According to Hebrews, how did the people receive God's Laws in the Exodus?

Heb. 7: If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for "under it" the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

According to Hebrews, how was the forgiveness of sins provided for?

Heb. 10: 1 For the (Priesthood) law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. (Provide forgiveness)

There is nothing from God's Own Words defining HIS New Covenant that even implies the end or destruction of God's instruction in righteousness, or His Judgments or Statutes.

This world's religious system is promoting an insidious falsehood about what God's New Covenant is, designed to "Justify" their own rejection of God's Commandments, judgments and Statutes that God promised to write in the hearts of His People.

I appreciate that we both have been placed by God in a garden in which "other voices" exist that "Profess to know God", and "Come in Christ's Name". And it's good that you "SEEK God's Righteousness" as Jesus instructs, in order to know the Armor of God we must "put on" to withstand the wiles of the devil.

I have come to understand there is no other way.

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

I don't advocate for the religious sect of the Pharisees, or Baptists or SDA or the Catholic's sabbaths. But when Jesus said to "Come to Him", that would also include listening to and "Doing" His Sayings, in my view. HE said to "Live by" the Word's of God. Paul said to "Walk in" the Works God "before ordained that we should walk in them". The God of Abraham did create for man, according to the Jesus "of the bible" a Sabbath Commandment. And according to Him, this is a "Feast of the Lord" and it is Holy.

We can "DO" as Jesus said, and SEEK God's Righteousness to find the meaning of His Sabbath Fast, and the purpose of it, be going to the ONLY Holy scriptures that were available to Paul.

Yes, their was a sabbath of the Pharisees (Jews religion). But God's Sabbath was not a "Jewish sabbath". It was a Sabbath created, sanctified by Him from creation and was, according to the Jesus "of the Bible", "made" for man. "Many" promoters of this world's religions, who call Jesus Lord, Lord, believe we can overcome this world by adopting the Catholic sabbath, or Jewish sabbath, or SDA sabbath.

According to what is written, I believe this philosophy leads to destruction, even though "Many" are on this path.




Again, there is a lot of deceptions being promoted by this world's religious system. If you would consider Isaiah 1, God, through Isaiah, is describing a religious people who rejected His Judgments, His commandments, and polluted His Sabbaths. Jesus described this as "Full well transgressing God's commandments that they may keep their own religious traditions".

And yet every week they would come to God with the Blood of an innocent, unblemished sacrifice, "as per the Law" to justify their open disobedience to Him. Hear God's Words concerning such a people.

Is. 1: 10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

Paul is addressing the SAME religious philosophy in the Pharisees in Romans 3. These men have been convinced, by the prince of this world, that they can "work iniquity", live in transgression of God's Commandments by their own man-made traditions, and then be "Justified by Works of the Law", as Isaiah showed, by offering to God for their rebellion, the Blood of innocent, unblemished sacrifice as required by Law for atonement.

The SAME exact thing continues today, and is the very reason why God had these Word's written for our admonition. "Christianity", or as Jesus calls it, "Many" who call Him Lord, Lord", has rejected God's Judgments and created their own. They have rejected God's Statutes and created their own high days. They have created images of God in the likeness of man, which is SIN. And yet, every week they offer to God for their Sins, the Blood of an innocent, unblemished being, "as per the Law" to justify their adopted religion.

20 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh "be justified" in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

This world's religious system has wrested Paul's Words in this, and many other regards, as is also prophesied.

What does God want from us? Perpetual pouring out of the Christ's Blood to justify lawlessness? No my friend. God tells us by His Words to Cain, His Prophets, His Son and the Apostles HE gave to His Son.

Is. 1: 16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before "mine eyes"; cease to do evil; 17 Learn to do well (As defined by God, not this world's religious system) seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the "mouth of the LORD" hath spoken it.

I advocate that we not only Listen to the Holy Spirit talking to us, but that we become "Doers" of the sayings as well.




Again, this is what this world's religious system teaches. But the Bible teaches that the old Priesthood Covenant "Covenant with Levi", or as it is called in Hebrews 7, "The Levitical Priesthood", was the Law Abraham didn't have, that was ADDED "Till the Priest "After the Order of Melchizedek should come". He was the Prophesied "SEED", Yes?

According to God's OWN definition of His New covenant, what changed from the Old Covenant? You can look for yourself.

#1. How God's Law was received.

#2. How forgiveness of Sin was provided for.

According to Hebrews, how did the people receive God's Laws in the Exodus?

Heb. 7: If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for "under it" the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

According to Hebrews, how was the forgiveness of sins provided for?

Heb. 10: 1 For the (Priesthood) law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. (Provide forgiveness)

There is nothing from God's Own Words defining HIS New Covenant that even implies the end or destruction of God's instruction in righteousness, or His Judgments or Statutes.

This world's religious system is promoting an insidious falsehood about what God's New Covenant is, designed to "Justify" their own rejection of God's Commandments, judgments and Statutes that God promised to write in the hearts of His People.

I appreciate that we both have been placed by God in a garden in which "other voices" exist that "Profess to know God", and "Come in Christ's Name". And it's good that you "SEEK God's Righteousness" as Jesus instructs, in order to know the Armor of God we must "put on" to withstand the wiles of the devil.

I have come to understand there is no other way.

Friend i do agree . What did you think i meant when i said TILL the promise came .
THE SEED which is Christ . i was actually quaoting from paul .
due to trangressions it was added . but the blood of bulls of and goats
could not cleanse the inner conscious . THE BLOOD OF JESUS sure can .
Does that suprise you my friend . Yes by the Grace of the LORD this sheep been in its bible daily .
SO you wont see me arguing with what you just wrote .
But what i next say is a dire dire dire needful reminder to all .
And it might suprise you to hear me say it , or maybe not .
But here it is for all to see . INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST and satan knows how to say GOD is love
and yet twists the heck out of it . Did you know that satan can quoate ANY scrip
But friend he has his own twists to it . HE can even say DO NOT HATE your neighbor
But again Beware his verison of what he implies is hate . Cause in truth HE is twisting it all
unto the destruction of the hearer and doer of his love , and etc . HE is slick
but the sheep heed not his voice . We gots to get in and stay in THE BIBLE .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Paul said; "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof"

The Jesus "of the bible" said to those whose sins He forgave, "now go and sin no more".

God through His Prophets said;

Ez. 18: Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Is God, and His Son, my Lord and Savior, the Jesus Christ "of the Bible", and Paul implying that a true believer be sinless?

Answer that question, and you will know my answer.



The Holy Spirit said not to create or partake of images of God in the likeness of anything, including men. The Holy Spirit said to "Be Holy as I am Holy" and gave us His Judgments. You can read about the Judgments Jesus walked in if you like.

Lev. 11: 45 For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt (SIN), to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.

If we reject God's judgments and adopt a religion who has created their own, is that really deenying ourself, and following the guidance of the Holy Spirit?




Yes, I am familiar and I believe all that is written in the Law and prophets, like Jesus and Paul did. And yes, I have certainly sinned, and may sin again, although I strive against it. But if you want to know what is really hypocritical, really wicked, really dishonest, it is to claim to believe one verse inspired by God, to justify a religious philosophy that rejects God's Judgments, but then out of the same heart, completely reject, ignore and hide from Inspired Words of the SAME Prophet that can't be used to justify the same religious philosophy.

Truly God understands the heart of men, and this tactic proves that the heart is deceitful above all things.

Ecc. 12: 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and "keep his commandments": for this is the "whole duty" of man. 14 For God shall bring every work "into judgment", with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.




So I just don't get your point here. If you know and believe the truth about your own heart, and God has shown you the way to "Rule over it", why do choose to adopt the philosophies of this world's religious system who, as Jeremiah warns in chapter 23, "and they say unto every one that "walketh after the imagination of his own heart", No evil shall come upon you.

Listen to Peter;

1 Pet. 4: 17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18 And if the righteous (Who fall short of the glory of God) scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19 Wherefore (Because of this Biblical Truth) let them that suffer (denying the flesh) according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls "to him in well doing", as unto a faithful Creator.

As I said, it's time to move on. But I sincerely hope in my heart, that you might consider all that is written, and follow the guidance of the Holy Spirit through Paul's teaching.

But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Yes, I am familiar and I believe all that is written in the Law and prophets, like Jesus and Paul did. And yes, I have certainly sinned, and may sin again, although I strive against it. But if you want to know what is really hypocritical, really wicked, really dishonest, it is to claim to believe one verse inspired by God, to justify a religious philosophy that rejects God's Judgments, but then out of the same heart, completely reject, ignore and hide from Inspired Words of the SAME Prophet that can't be used to justify the same religious philosophy.

Truly God understands the heart of men, and this tactic proves that the heart is deceitful above all things.

Ecc. 12: 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and "keep his commandments": for this is the "whole duty" of man. 14 For God shall bring every work "into judgment", with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
You see the part wherein you wrote
what is truly truly hypocritical , really wicked
really dishonest , IT IS the claim to beleive ONE verse inspired by GOD , TO JUSTIFY A religious philosophy
that REJECTS GOD , HIS judgments and etc
WEEP AND HOWL for a massive amount within christendom , that i fear no man can count ,
DOES THIS .
THEY DO THIS ALL THE TIME . They use certain verses to JUSTIFY they own trapped minds and teachings
And have zero idea the way they even see and use that ONE verse
IS totally DENYING many other parts .
I KNOW OF ONLY ONE WHO DOES Such a thing , SO that one is guiding them .
Satan is a liar and he WILL quoate a scrip
BUT HE GONNA imply BY that scrip YE can DO SOMETHING ye never should have done .
HE is the father of all lies . and by golly it seems many seem to love them indoctrinated lies .
AND NOW a false love of the world has emereged
and EVERY denomination , THE RCC , the false religions and even athiest wican and etc
CAN AGREE UPON that VERSION OF LOVE . This people
is being given over to the all out reprobational strong delusion and it WILL MERGE THEM ALL
under what they all will beleive IS LOVE and IS OF GOD . the END hour is upon this people .

 

[Studyman]

Friend i do agree . What did you think i meant when i said TILL the promise came .
THE SEED which is Christ . i was actually quaoting from paul .
due to trangressions it was added .

To be clear, perhaps you already know this, but your post indicated that you might not. Please bear with me as I explain, and forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Paul was not talking about the 10 Commandments or God's Judgments or Laws, when HE said a "LAW" was added. We can read about these in Ex. 20, Lev.11, 19 and 23.

These Laws were not "ADDED" because of Transgressions. As Paul said, by these Laws is the "Knowledge of Sin" and how God's Righteousness is revealed to us. Abraham, Noah, Jacob, Joseph would all have known and abided by God's Judgments, Statutes and Laws.

The "Law" that was ADDED, "Till the SEED should Come", because of Transgression of God's Laws that already existed, was the Levitical Priesthood, including the requirement to being the Blood of an innocent, unblemished sacrifice to a Levite Priest and kill it to atone for his sins.

For instance, God's Sabbath was shown to Israel long before Mt. Sinai and the golden calf, and was established at creation. Noah knew God's Judgments concerning what was food and what was not food.

It was this sacrificial "LAW", that was added 430 years after Abraham obeyed God's Commandments, Statutes and Laws, and taught God's Judgment and justice to his children.

We are taught by this world's religious system since our youth, that Paul is speaking to God's commandments, Statutes and judgments that define God's Righteousness and HIS definition of Sin for His people. The Pharisees had created a business selling salvation in the form of animal sacrifices, and had full well rejected God's Commandments so they could keep their own traditions. God speaks to this in Malachi 2 showing that the Priests had "corrupted the Covenant of Levi", or as it is known in Hebrews, the "Levitical Priesthood". Hebrews speaks to this in chapters 7-10. "And finding fault with them" ( Shepherds that led His People astray) HE promised a New Priesthood Covenant. One in which HE sees to it that we all have the Oracles of God in our home and in our hearts, no more "receiving His Law" through a corrupt Priesthood. And HE forgives the Sins of the People Himself, no more forgiveness through a corrupt priesthood who had "departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi" who God made contemptable "according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law".

Why was Jesus considered perfect? Was it not because he obeyed God's Laws? How many goats were people required to take to Him for forgiveness? NONE, Yes? This is because HE ushered in the Prophesied New Priesthood Covenant, which by necessity required a "change of the Law" as Jesus Himself was not a Levite. God's instruction in Righteousness, His Commandments and Judgments have not changed. Not one Jot or tittle.

At least this is what the Bible actually teaches.

 

[Capbook]

Your sabbath, the Pharisees sabbath, the Catholic sabbath, they are all the same. They are the "works of men". I'm talking about God's Sabbath Commandment that Jesus walked in, God's instruction in Righteousness that Jesus obeyed. The Good works "God before ordained" that His People should walk in them. The people, according to Paul, who "Yield themselves" to God in these things, are the "people of God" according to what is written in the Holy Scriptures.

If you were as interested in actually seeking the truth of the Scriptures, as you are in justifying your adopted religion, you would have heard the inspired Words of Christ through the Hebrew author before he got to verse 9.

Heb. 4: 1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, "as well as unto them": but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith (Belief) in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom "it was first preached" entered not in because of unbelief:

7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, "To" day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.



And yet, this world's religious system you are defending and justifying, have rejected God's judgments in favor of their own. They have rejected God's Sabbath, in favor of the Catholic sabbath. They have rejected the Statutes of God and created their own high days and definition of Holy. They have created an image of God in the likeness of man. This is undeniable truth. And now you are telling me all this is God's Will. What if the Word's of the Jesus "of the Bible" are true, and the religious system of this world you have adopted and are now defending, is the deceiver?

They preach the deception to all who will listen to them, that God was mad at Israel for striving to follow His Commands. And they preach the Pharisees and Abraham adopted and promoted the same religion that you call "Judaism". There is no end to the deception and cleaver lies, and subtle falsehoods they have promoted, since the other voice in the garden convinced Eve that God lied to her.

David in Psalms 14 and 5, and Paul who quoted him in Romans 3 tries to tell you the truth about this world's religion.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD. 5 There were they in great fear: for God is in "the generation of the righteous".



No Capbook. You defined "Judaism" as the Pharisees religion that Saul lived by and promoted according to his own words, "Wherein in time past he walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience".

God despised the Pharisees religion, and Paul told us all, who would listen to him, that it was not the "Church of God". And in fact, it was a religious system who rejected and mocked the Righteousness of God, and mocked and persecuted the members of the Church of God, who "Yielded themselves" to Him, and their bodies as instruments of Righteousness unto Him, as it is to this day. And HE appointed His Son to be the Head of this Church, and commanded men to hearken unto Him. And HE told both you and I to "Live by" God's Word, not this world's religious system.

As for "Holy Convocation", here is what the Holy Spirit tells us.

Lev. 23: 3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

4 These are the feasts "of the LORD", even holy convocations, which ye (God's People) shall proclaim in their seasons.

And since you claim to believe John, here is what John says.

1 John 2: 3 And hereby "we do know" that we know him, if we keep "his commandments".

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not "his commandments", is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso ( Whosoever, anyone, everyone) keepeth his word, "in him" verily is "the love of God" perfected: hereby (This is how we ) know we that we are in him.

It is past time that I bow out of this discussion. You are clearly more interested in justifying yourself and your adopted religion, than you are actually discussing what is actually written by the Spirit of the same Christ "many" claim to trust.

But God's Word does not return void, therefore I have hope that before it's too late, in the private confines of your heart, you might consider what God actually says, and join with the faithful examples of the Bible, like Caleb and Zacharias under the old priesthood, and Stephen and the early church of God under God's New Priesthood, who remained Faithful to God even when the religious world around them, "who professed to know God" were not.

I just believe you don't see what I wanted to point out to you, the Greek word is "sabbatismos" derivative from "sabbaton" which Bible lexicons defined as the seventh day of the week. In verse 10, when does God rested from His work? Verse 4 said, "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works"

G4520 (Thayer) σαββατισμός sabbatismos
Thayer Definition:
1) a keeping sabbath
2) the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians Part of Speech: noun masculine Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from a derivative of G4521.

NT:4521 sabbaton, sabbatou, to sabbath
1. the seventh day of each week, which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
a. singular Mark 6:2
b. plural, ta sabbatoon
(for the singular) of a single sabbath, sabbath-day
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

Heb 4:9-10
9 There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.
NASB

Heb 4:4
4 For He has thus said somewhere concerning the seventh day, "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works"
NASB

Does your "no" answer means you don't attend holy convocation on Sabbath day?
I've just have explained to you our Sabbath above, it is the Sabbath for the people of God.
I just hope its clears your mind now.

 

[Studyman]

I just believe you don't see what I wanted to point out to you, the Greek word is "sabbatismos" derivative from "sabbaton" which Bible lexicons defined as the seventh day of the week. In verse 10, when does God rested from His work? Verse 4 said, "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works"

I completely understand your "my sabbath is whatever "I" say it is" theology for 30 years now. I just find a different gospel when I read what is actually written in the Bible. Just as I completely understood your philosophy concerning Isaiah's filthy rag comment that you said was how God sees a man trying to follow His commands. But as you can see, that isn't what God was teaching through Isaiah at all. Just as I completely knew that you would promote the popular religious philosophy of "the course of this world", by preaching that Abraham and the Pharisees practiced "Judaism" which was created by God in the OT. All of these popular doctrines promoted by this world's religious system, are falsehoods, according what God actually Inspired to be written.

What your adopted religious teachers who taught you this philosophy is omitting, is what is actually written in Scriptures when a man considers more than just a few verses.

Gen. 3: 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the "seventh day", and "sanctified it": because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Ex. 20: 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath "of the LORD thy God": in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath "day", and hallowed it.

Your copy and paste justification notwithstanding, God has His "Instruction in Righteousness" written "for His People", Yes? the Jesus "of the Bible" even said God's Sabbath was "made for man". And HE gave you examples of how HE feels about men who reject His Sabbath commandment, or pollute it. His Adultery Commandment, His creating images of God in the likeness of men commandment, and HE placed them in the same list of important Commands for His People, for their well being.

And yet the Pharisees infected it with the imaginations of their own heart, placing burdens on it that were never instructed by God. The Catholics and Protestants rejected it all together, and created their own sabbath on a completely different day. In the same way they reject ALL the "Feasts of the Lord" and created instead, their own high days, many of which you observe. Other religious sects that make up this world's system promote your philosophy, that the sabbath is whatever day you say it is.

And as Paul said, these promoters of this world's religions with long speeches and copy and paste sermons from "Got questions" or the BBS, deceive the simple.

Rom. 16: 17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; "and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. 19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

Capbook, God's 7th day Sabbath is Holy, according to God. We are told to "be Holy for God is Holy". Go back in the Inspired Word of God that the Jesus "of the Bible" told you to "Live by", and find where HE made this commandment. Then look around you at the religions of this world you have adopted, and honestly discern if these are the prophesied "Christian" Jesus spoke to in Matt. 7:22,23.

All I'm advocating is that a man follow the Instructions of the Lord's Christ, and not the religious philosophies of this world's religious sects that you are promoting on this forum.

G4520 (Thayer) σαββατισμός sabbatismos
Thayer Definition:
1) a keeping sabbath
2) the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians Part of Speech: noun masculine Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from a derivative of G4521.

NT:4521 sabbaton, sabbatou, to sabbath
1. the seventh day of each week, which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
a. singular Mark 6:2
b. plural, ta sabbatoon
(for the singular) of a single sabbath, sabbath-day
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

Heb 4:9-10
9 There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.
NASB

Heb 4:4
4 For He has thus said somewhere concerning the seventh day, "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works"
NASB

Does your "no" answer means you don't attend holy convocation on Sabbath day?
I've just have explained to you our Sabbath above, it is the Sabbath for the people of God.
I just hope its clears your mind now.

Heb. 1-3, that you omitted, points out that Israel was given God's Sabbath too, but they didn't believe in it, and polluted it. And God said, "They shall not enter into my rest" at the end of days.

God's Sabbaths that the Jesus "of the Bible" walked in, are spelled out all over the bible but are together in Lev. 11. I know your question is designed to justify "your sabbath", and that is its purpose

But I will answer your question, just have I have answered all of your questions.

On these "Holy Days" that are Sanctified and Set Apart "By God", not the Pope or the Jews, my family and I, and a small flock of others who have escaped spiritual Egypt, "Fast" from the rigors of this world, as much and gather together with the Congregation of the Lord. Noah, Abraham, Joshua, Moses, David, Matthew, Peter, James, Rehab, Cornelius, Paul and many others, with our Head and Savior and Author of our Faith, the Jesus "of the bible".

Isaiah, filled with the Spirit of Christ, speaks to this Commanded "Fast" from God, on the 7th Day that HE created for man, in Chapter 58.

Does it matter? We will know some day. But what we know now, is that this fast Commandment is not the "Works of men", rather, the Good Work that God before ordained that His People should walk in them.

At least this is according to the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Capbook]

I completely understand your "my sabbath is whatever "I" say it is" theology for 30 years now. I just find a different gospel when I read what is actually written in the Bible. Just as I completely understood your philosophy concerning Isaiah's filthy rag comment that you said was how God sees a man trying to follow His commands. But as you can see, that isn't what God was teaching through Isaiah at all. Just as I completely knew that you would promote the popular religious philosophy of "the course of this world", by preaching that Abraham and the Pharisees practiced "Judaism" which was created by God in the OT. All of these popular doctrines promoted by this world's religious system, are falsehoods, according what God actually Inspired to be written.

What your adopted religious teachers who taught you this philosophy is omitting, is what is actually written in Scriptures when a man considers more than just a few verses.

Gen. 3: 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the "seventh day", and "sanctified it": because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Ex. 20: 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath "of the LORD thy God": in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath "day", and hallowed it.

Your copy and paste justification notwithstanding, God has His "Instruction in Righteousness" written "for His People", Yes? the Jesus "of the Bible" even said God's Sabbath was "made for man". And HE gave you examples of how HE feels about men who reject His Sabbath commandment, or pollute it. His Adultery Commandment, His creating images of God in the likeness of men commandment, and HE placed them in the same list of important Commands for His People, for their well being.

And yet the Pharisees infected it with the imaginations of their own heart, placing burdens on it that were never instructed by God. The Catholics and Protestants rejected it all together, and created their own sabbath on a completely different day. In the same way they reject ALL the "Feasts of the Lord" and created instead, their own high days, many of which you observe. Other religious sects that make up this world's system promote your philosophy, that the sabbath is whatever day you say it is.

And as Paul said, these promoters of this world's religions with long speeches and copy and paste sermons from "Got questions" or the BBS, deceive the simple.

Rom. 16: 17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; "and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. 19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

Capbook, God's 7th day Sabbath is Holy, according to God. We are told to "be Holy for God is Holy". Go back in the Inspired Word of God that the Jesus "of the Bible" told you to "Live by", and find where HE made this commandment. Then look around you at the religions of this world you have adopted, and honestly discern if these are the prophesied "Christian" Jesus spoke to in Matt. 7:22,23.

All I'm advocating is that a man follow the Instructions of the Lord's Christ, and not the religious philosophies of this world's religious sects that you are promoting on this forum.



Heb. 1-3, that you omitted, points out that Israel was given God's Sabbath too, but they didn't believe in it, and polluted it. And God said, "They shall not enter into my rest" at the end of days.

God's Sabbaths that the Jesus "of the Bible" walked in, are spelled out all over the bible but are together in Lev. 11. I know your question is designed to justify "your sabbath", and that is its purpose

But I will answer your question, just have I have answered all of your questions.

On these "Holy Days" that are Sanctified and Set Apart "By God", not the Pope or the Jews, my family and I, and a small flock of others who have escaped spiritual Egypt, "Fast" from the rigors of this world, as much and gather together with the Congregation of the Lord. Noah, Abraham, Joshua, Moses, David, Matthew, Peter, James, Rehab, Cornelius, Paul and many others, with our Head and Savior and Author of our Faith, the Jesus "of the bible".

Isaiah, filled with the Spirit of Christ, speaks to this Commanded "Fast" from God, on the 7th Day that HE created for man, in Chapter 58.

Does it matter? We will know some day. But what we know now, is that this fast Commandment is not the "Works of men", rather, the Good Work that God before ordained that His People should walk in them.

At least this is according to the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

You really misunderstood what Sabbath that we keep. Jesus as His customs was entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read. (Luke 4:16) We observe it according to Lev 23:32. It is the Sabbath of the Lord our God (Ex 20:10). It begins with remember because it was already instituted in Gen 2:1-3.

I noticed that you refer heavily to the 10 Commnadments.
Do you believe that the Decalogue will save you outside of faith?

And you didn’t answer if you do holy convocation on Sabbath days, means every seventh day of the week.

 

[Studyman]

You really misunderstood what Sabbath that we keep. Jesus as His customs was entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read. (Luke 4:16) We observe it according to Lev 23:32.

Again, you assume I don't understand your religious philosophy. And yet I address it and you ignore the Scriptures I post to show you these things.


Lev. 23: 32 is not the Weekly 7th Day Sabbath, where a man fasts from the servile work week. It is a Feast of the Lord called "Day or Feast of Atonement" that happens once a week.

Lev. 23: 27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month (Once a Year) there "shall be a day of atonement": it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall "afflict your souls", (A 24 hour Food Fast from the evening of the ninth day to the Evening of the 10th day) and offer an offering made by fire (Trials and testing of Faith) unto the LORD. 28 "And" ye shall do no work in that same dayLike the fast from the rigors of the world God's People partake of every week) for it is "a day of atonement", to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.

This forgotten "Feast of the Lord", that you clearly know nothing about, foreshadows things "Yet to come" when God puts the sins of the world on satan's head where it belongs, and "Locks him up" or puts him away in a uninhabited wilderness.

It is the Sabbath of the Lord our God (Ex 20:10). It begins with remember because it was already instituted in Gen 2:1-3.

While the Feast of Atonement was a Statute instituted at the foundation of the world, it was not mentioned until the Exodus. It is not the same as the 7th Day Sabbath, which is honored by Jesus and God's People each week, as the Commandment states. The verse you used to justify your sabbath, is a Statute of God that happens only once a year. There is no instruction to "Afflict ones soul" on the weekly Sabbath.

I noticed that you refer heavily to the 10 Commnadments.

I rely heavily on God and HIS Words that the Jesus "of the Bible" said to live by. The 10 Commandments are part of God's instruction in righteousness that Jesus Lived By, and said for me to "Keep" if I wanted to "enter life". Since Jesus is my Priest, Savior and Lord, it seems like a no-brainer to follow His Instruction, even when "MANY" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, do not.

Do you believe that the Decalogue will save you outside of faith?

You have defined for me your definition of "Judaism", which the bible discerned for me and now you are changing the subject away from that topic. Now you are using the word "Faith". You will have to define your definition of this word as well, before I can answer your question.

Can a man have Living Faith "Outside" God's instruction in Righteousness that Jesus said man shall "Live By"?

And you didn’t answer if you do holy convocation on Sabbath days, means every seventh day of the week.

Well, to be blunt, you have no idea what you are talking about. You clearly don't know the difference between God's Weekly Sabbaths, and the Sabbaths associated with the Feasts of the Lord you profess to know.

How is it you have transformed yourself into a minister of righteousness, when you don't know the difference between the Day of Atonement, and God's Weekly Sabbath Commandment?

And I did answer your question. Here. I will post it again, and perhaps this time you will engage in the most common of decencies and courtesies and read it.

"On these "Holy Days" that are Sanctified and Set Apart "By God", not the Pope or the Jews, my family and I, and a small flock of others who have escaped spiritual Egypt, "Fast" from the rigors of this world, and gather together with the Congregation of the Lord. Noah, Abraham, Joshua, Moses, David, Matthew, Peter, James, Rehab, Cornelius, Paul and many others, with our Head and Savior and Author of our Faith, the Jesus "of the bible".

Isaiah, filled with the Spirit of Christ, speaks to this Commanded "Fast" from God, on the 7th Day that HE created for man, as well as the fast from food, instructed on Day of atonement, in Chapter 58.

God also set apart and sanctified several other "Sabbaths" that are shadows of things "Yet to come", including, but not limited to Day of Atonement, which calls for affliction of the soul. This is different than the Fast God calls for, on the weekly Sabbath that I posted and you also ignored.

The Jesus "of the bible" said to me "And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Can a man hear Jesus, if they refuse to hear Moses? Jesus says NO! right there in your own Bible, "they will not be persuaded". Is Jesus a Liar? Can I trust Him? Did God Send Him to Save me?

Or are you the Messiah. Shall I reject the "Sayings of the Christ" and adopt your religious philosophy? Or should you turn away from this world's religious system you have adopted and are now promoting to others, and repent and turn to God, and be "Learned of the Father", in hope that HE will give you to His Son? After all, the Jesus "of the Bible" did say

John 6: 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Perhaps you should spend more time "Seeking the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness, as the Jesus "of the bible" instructs, and less time working so hard to justify your adopted religion.

 

[Capbook]

Again, you assume I don't understand your religious philosophy. And yet I address it and you ignore the Scriptures I post to show you these things.

Lev. 23: 32 is not the Weekly 7th Day Sabbath, where a man fasts from the servile work week. It is a Feast of the Lord called "Day or Feast of Atonement" that happens once a week.

Again, a misunderstood point, from evening/sunset to evening/sunset is what I believe a day reckoning for the Jews. That is what we observe how a day starts and how we keep the Sabbath.
Lev 23:32
32 It is to be a sabbath of complete rest to you, and you shall humble your souls; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening you shall keep your sabbath."
NASB
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Lev. 23: 27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month (Once a Year) there "shall be a day of atonement": it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall "afflict your souls", (A 24 hour Food Fast from the evening of the ninth day to the Evening of the 10th day) and offer an offering made by fire (Trials and testing of Faith) unto the LORD. 28 "And" ye shall do no work in that same dayLike the fast from the rigors of the world God's People partake of every week) for it is "a day of atonement", to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.

Already explained above.
[/QUOTE]

This forgotten "Feast of the Lord", that you clearly know nothing about, foreshadows things "Yet to come" when God puts the sins of the world on satan's head where it belongs, and "Locks him up" or puts him away in a uninhabited wilderness.

While the Feast of Atonement was a Statute instituted at the foundation of the world, it was not mentioned until the Exodus. It is not the same as the 7th Day Sabbath, which is honored by Jesus and God's People each week, as the Commandment states. The verse you used to justify your sabbath, is a Statute of God that happens only once a year. There is no instruction to "Afflict ones soul" on the weekly Sabbath.

I rely heavily on God and HIS Words that the Jesus "of the Bible" said to live by. The 10 Commandments are part of God's instruction in righteousness that Jesus Lived By, and said for me to "Keep" if I wanted to "enter life". Since Jesus is my Priest, Savior and Lord, it seems like a no-brainer to follow His Instruction, even when "MANY" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, do not.

Ok, may I know how your keep your Sabbath? When it starts and when it ends?
[/QUOTE]

You have defined for me your definition of "Judaism", which the bible discerned for me and now you are changing the subject away from that topic. Now you are using the word "Faith". You will have to define your definition of this word as well, before I can answer your question.

Can a man have Living Faith "Outside" God's instruction in Righteousness that Jesus said man shall "Live By"?

According to Heb 11:1, "Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Faith" goes beyond mere intellectual assent and involves trust, reliance, and commitment, often in the face of uncertainty or lack of evidence. I believe we are through with Judaism, as you've said negative views about the Jews religion and strive for the Church of God. And I noticed you always state the needs to obey God's commandments, law, statutes and others, that I believe cannot save us. But God's grace is through our faith. See John 3:16, Eph 2:8-10, 2Tim 3:15-17. The obedience of God's commandments, statutes, law, the good works is the result that we are already save. As I've said, after baptism, God put us in a place that we desire to do His will. You cannot be baptized without first have the faith.
[/QUOTE]

Well, to be blunt, you have no idea what you are talking about. You clearly don't know the difference between God's Weekly Sabbaths, and the Sabbaths associated with the Feasts of the Lord you profess to know.

How is it you have transformed yourself into a minister of righteousness, when you don't know the difference between the Day of Atonement, and God's Weekly Sabbath Commandment?

And I did answer your question. Here. I will post it again, and perhaps this time you will engage in the most common of decencies and courtesies and read it.

As I've explained above, the point I've mentioned Lev 23:32, is about the Jews day reckoning. Again, how do you observed the seventh day Sabbath? When it starts and ends?
[/QUOTE]

God also set apart and sanctified several other "Sabbaths" that are shadows of things "Yet to come", including, but not limited to Day of Atonement, which calls for affliction of the soul. This is different than the Fast God calls for, on the weekly Sabbath that I posted and you also ignored.

The Jesus "of the bible" said to me "And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Can a man hear Jesus, if they refuse to hear Moses? Jesus says NO! right there in your own Bible, "they will not be persuaded". Is Jesus a Liar? Can I trust Him? Did God Send Him to Save me?

Or are you the Messiah. Shall I reject the "Sayings of the Christ" and adopt your religious philosophy? Or should you turn away from this world's religious system you have adopted and are now promoting to others, and repent and turn to God, and be "Learned of the Father", in hope that HE will give you to His Son? After all, the Jesus "of the Bible" did say

John 6: 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Perhaps you should spend more time "Seeking the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness, as the Jesus "of the bible" instructs, and less time working so hard to justify your adopted religion.

I believe you are "barking the wrong tree," about Lev 23:32. Still you didn't answer my question. For the third time, do you attend holy convocation on the seventh day Sabbath?
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[Marvelloustime]

Friend i do agree . What did you think i meant when i said TILL the promise came .
THE SEED which is Christ . i was actually quaoting from paul .
due to trangressions it was added . but the blood of bulls of and goats
could not cleanse the inner conscious . THE BLOOD OF JESUS sure can .
Does that suprise you my friend . Yes by the Grace of the LORD this sheep been in its bible daily .
SO you wont see me arguing with what you just wrote .
But what i next say is a dire dire dire needful reminder to all .
And it might suprise you to hear me say it , or maybe not .
But here it is for all to see . INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST and satan knows how to say GOD is love
and yet twists the heck out of it . Did you know that satan can quoate ANY scrip
But friend he has his own twists to it . HE can even say DO NOT HATE your neighbor
But again Beware his verison of what he implies is hate . Cause in truth HE is twisting it all
unto the destruction of the hearer and doer of his love , and etc . HE is slick
but the sheep heed not his voice . We gots to get in and stay in THE BIBLE .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[Marvelloustime]

This generation follows the smooth preaching hirelings . Who have totally corrupted the true form of christianity
into a sin accepting unbelief accepting total mess .
And now if a true sheep even dares to speak truth he makes himself a prey to their teeth .
What came upon Israel of old has come upon much of christendom today .
The prophets prophesy for money , and tell of dreams and visoins of peace
and none does repent of his wicked ways for they have lied to them and called evil good and good evil .
BUT HAD they actually preached GODS words this people had repented .
THEY PREACH THE SMOOTH things that the flesh of man so dearly loves
and it giveth them their wicked hearts desires with a promise , A false one , of salvation .
But if one follows another jesus , WOE BE UNTO THEM , they are still in their sins and will die in their sins .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[Studyman]

Again, a misunderstood point, from evening/sunset to evening/sunset is what I believe a day reckoning for the Jews. That is what we observe how a day starts and how we keep the Sabbath.

I am not interested in Jewish Tradition, rather, what God's Instruction in Righteousness is that HE gave to the people of the world, through the children of Abraham. This can be found in the Oracles of God, commonly referred to as the "The Holy Bible". God's Day, created before any Jew existed, begins and ends at sundown. God's Weekly Sabbath begins at sundown on Friday, when the 6th day ends and the 7th day begins. and ends at sundown on Saturday, when the 7th day (Saturday) ends, and the 1st day (Sunday) begins.

According to the Jesus "of the Bible" God made this Sabbath Day "for me". It is not "My Righteousness", but God's Righteousness that I have "Yielded or Submitted myself to". If you have submitted yourself to God's Righteousness, as defined by Him, then good for you.

But according to your posts, you have adopted a religion that promote a sabbath, "whenever you say it is". Neither Jesus, nor any examples of Faithful men, participated in such a religion.

Lev 23:32
32 It is to be a sabbath of complete rest to you, and you shall humble your souls; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening you shall keep your sabbath."
NASB

Lev. 32:23 is not talking about God's Weekly 7th Day Sabbath. It is speaking about a yearly "Feast of the Lord" called "Feast of Atonement" (At Onement I like to call it) It doesn't always fall on the 7th day of the week. This year it falls on a Wednesday, that is, it began on sundown on Tuesday, and ended at sundown on Wednesday.

The early Church of God in Acts, like the Faithful believers throughout the history of the bible, determined when God's Sacred year begins according by the Moon Phase. There is a spring equinox that starts the Year. (In 2025 it's March 20th) This was the beginning of Months according to God's calendar, that is and has been in place since creation. This is the "beginning of months" for God's People so they could keep time by the stars and moon which are the same today as they were in Moses time. In the 10th Day of the First Month, was Passover, followed by a 7 Day Feast of the Lord called "Feast of Unleavened bread", followed by Pentecost that was determined by counting 7 Sabbaths after the Last Day of Unleavened bread, as instructed in the holy Scriptures.

The first Church of God under HIS New Priesthood counted these Days correctly and were gathered together on Pentecost. And as the Bible shows, God Blessed them for their Faith and commitment to Him.

Feast of Atonement is the 10th Day of the 7th Month of God's Year. This year, it falls on October 1st, which was a Wednesday.

You clearly have not been taught by this world's religious system you have adopted and are now promoting, any of these Biblical Truths about God and the "Way of the Lord", and yet you are preaching to me, as if you know what you are talking about.

Ok, may I know how your keep your Sabbath? When it starts and when it ends?

I have already posted the answer to this question twice. And out discussion is about what God's Words says, not me.

According to Heb 11:1, "Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Faith" goes beyond mere intellectual assent and involves trust, reliance, and commitment, often in the face of uncertainty or lack of evidence. I believe we are through with Judaism, as you've said negative views about the Jews religion and strive for the Church of God.

You defined Judaism for me as the religion Paul adopted when he was Saul, that "persecuted the Church of God". (Gal. 1) You promoted the insidious falsehood that Abraham also adopted the same "Jews Religion" that you called "Judaism". You implied that it was God that founded "Judaism". I pointed out to you what the Bible actually says about this "Jews Religion" that Saul promoted and was Zealous for. I showed you what Ezekiel said about the "Jews Religion". I showed you what Jesus said about the "Jews Religion".

Jesus called the men, like Saul, who were Zealous for this religion, "children of the Devil".

So please stop with the dishonest discourse. It is God, and His Son the Jesus "of the Bible", and the Prophets, and Paul and the apostles, who said "negative views about the Jews religion", and instructed that we should strive for the Church of God instead".

I showed you what the Holy Scriptures said. The "Negative Views" you are referencing are God's view, Jesus' view, Paul's view.

I just believe them, and shared their written, stated views with you. Not "my views", but the Christ's Views that are in me.

And I noticed you always state the needs to obey God's commandments, law, statutes and others, that I believe cannot save us.

Again. I have posted God's Words in which HE explains about the importance of a man repenting, turning to Him, and keeping His Commandments, Statutes and Laws. I Posted the Jesus "of the Bible's" Words concerning the importance of "Living By" God's Words, not the teaching of the "Many" who come in Christ's Name, that Jesus saw coming and warned His People about. I posted Paul's Words as HE describes the importance of a man "Yielding Himself" to God and becoming a servant of God's Righteousness, not our own. And Paul's Words concerning the importance of "Submitting oneself" unto the Righteousness of God, not going about to establish our own righteousness, like the "Christians" in Matt. 7:22 did.

So please, stop with the wicked dishonesty. It is not my words that "State the Need to obey God's Laws, Statutes and Judgments" that I have posted for your review and discussion. It is the Inspired Word of God.

I believe them, clearly you don't.

 

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I am not interested in Jewish Tradition, rather, what God's Instruction in Righteousness is that HE gave to the people of the world, through the children of Abraham. This can be found in the Oracles of God, commonly referred to as the "The Holy Bible". God's Day, created before any Jew existed, begins and ends at sundown. God's Weekly Sabbath begins at sundown on Friday, when the 6th day ends and the 7th day begins. and ends at sundown on Saturday, when the 7th day (Saturday) ends, and the 1st day (Sunday) begins.

According to the Jesus "of the Bible" God made this Sabbath Day "for me". It is not "My Righteousness", but God's Righteousness that I have "Yielded or Submitted myself to". If you have submitted yourself to God's Righteousness, as defined by Him, then good for you.

But according to your posts, you have adopted a religion that promote a sabbath, "whenever you say it is". Neither Jesus, nor any examples of Faithful men, participated in such a religion.

At least for now you understand my point. But may I know which verse that taught you about the sundown to sundown observance if you won't quote from Jewish tradition?
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Lev. 32:23 is not talking about God's Weekly 7th Day Sabbath. It is speaking about a yearly "Feast of the Lord" called "Feast of Atonement" (At Onement I like to call it) It doesn't always fall on the 7th day of the week. This year it falls on a Wednesday, that is, it began on sundown on Tuesday, and ended at sundown on Wednesday.

My point is about the sundown to sundown from that verse. Do sundown o sundown only applies to "Feast of Atonement" or to every day reckoning?
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The early Church of God in Acts, like the Faithful believers throughout the history of the bible, determined when God's Sacred year begins according by the Moon Phase. There is a spring equinox that starts the Year. (In 2025 it's March 20th) This was the beginning of Months according to God's calendar, that is and has been in place since creation. This is the "beginning of months" for God's People so they could keep time by the stars and moon which are the same today as they were in Moses time. In the 10th Day of the First Month, was Passover, followed by a 7 Day Feast of the Lord called "Feast of Unleavened bread", followed by Pentecost that was determined by counting 7 Sabbaths after the Last Day of Unleavened bread, as instructed in the holy Scriptures.

The first Church of God under HIS New Priesthood counted these Days correctly and were gathered together on Pentecost. And as the Bible shows, God Blessed them for their Faith and commitment to Him.

Feast of Atonement is the 10th Day of the 7th Month of God's Year. This year, it falls on October 1st, which was a Wednesday.

You clearly have not been taught by this world's religious system you have adopted and are now promoting, any of these Biblical Truths about God and the "Way of the Lord", and yet you are preaching to me, as if you know what you are talking about.

Yes, I believe month of Tishri, but we did not observed it. And yes, I don't know much about it.
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I have already posted the answer to this question twice. And out discussion is about what God's Words says, not me.

Yes, noted.
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You defined Judaism for me as the religion Paul adopted when he was Saul, that "persecuted the Church of God". (Gal. 1) You promoted the insidious falsehood that Abraham also adopted the same "Jews Religion" that you called "Judaism". You implied that it was God that founded "Judaism". I pointed out to you what the Bible actually says about this "Jews Religion" that Saul promoted and was Zealous for. I showed you what Ezekiel said about the "Jews Religion". I showed you what Jesus said about the "Jews Religion".

If you review our responses, it was you whom said God founded "Judaism". I still remember that I thought Abraham was, as for me he was considered as the Father of faith.
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Jesus called the men, like Saul, who were Zealous for this religion, "children of the Devil".

So please stop with the dishonest discourse. It is God, and His Son the Jesus "of the Bible", and the Prophets, and Paul and the apostles, who said "negative views about the Jews religion", and instructed that we should strive for the Church of God instead".

I showed you what the Holy Scriptures said. The "Negative Views" you are referencing are God's view, Jesus' view, Paul's view.

I just believe them, and shared their written, stated views with you. Not "my views", but the Christ's Views that are in me.

Good, that you accept Jesus as the Messiah. The one prophesied in the Old Testament.
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Again. I have posted God's Words in which HE explains about the importance of a man repenting, turning to Him, and keeping His Commandments, Statutes and Laws. I Posted the Jesus "of the Bible's" Words concerning the importance of "Living By" God's Words, not the teaching of the "Many" who come in Christ's Name, that Jesus saw coming and warned His People about. I posted Paul's Words as HE describes the importance of a man "Yielding Himself" to God and becoming a servant of God's Righteousness, not our own. And Paul's Words concerning the importance of "Submitting oneself" unto the Righteousness of God, not going about to establish our own righteousness, like the "Christians" in Matt. 7:22 did.

So please, stop with the wicked dishonesty. It is not my words that "State the Need to obey God's Laws, Statutes and Judgments" that I have posted for your review and discussion. It is the Inspired Word of God.

Again, I believe a misunderstanding, the question I asked you was about, is obeying God's law, statutes and judgments can saved us outside the faith?
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I believe them, clearly you don't.

I obey God's law, statutes and judgments that shows my faith.
James 2:18
18 But someone may well say, "You have faith, and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
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For the fourth time, you did not answer the question about, do you attend holy convocation every seventh day of the week?
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