The Water Baptism of 1 Corinthians 12:13

[Truther]

There isn't.
All can be saved.

Correct, via obeying Acts 2:38, Fred.

Jew and gentile...

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord..

...and don't say "just for Italians"...LOL

 

[civic]

Are you church of Christ? You don’t believed in the gifts of the Spirit in operation today? You don’t believe in the five fold ministry today. Not even teachers?

The office of the Apostles ended when John died there are no successors. An Apostle must be an eyewitness of the Resurrected Christ and Paul in 1 Cor 15 said last of all He ( Jesus ) appeared to him. An Apostle was appointed by Christ is person, personally.

Are you a Catholic by chance ?

 

[Truther]

The office of the Apostles ended when John dies there are no successors.

Are you a Catholic by chance ?

No, I am of the church of 3000.

 

[civic]

You responded before I finished lol try and slow down for a second. I added to my post.

 

[Affinity]

No, I am of the church of 3000.

This?

 

[Truther]

11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;


All 5 are needed to make this work today.

The Apostle starts churches.

The Prophet edifies them as per 1 Cor 14.

The Evangelist witnesses and preaches to saints as we see today.

The Pastor is an elder to instruct the saints.

The Teacher teaches the intricacies of doctrine.

No 4 fold or 3 fold ministry is God's plan for the last days.

 

[Truther]

This?

LOL, no this...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

 

[civic]

11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;


All 5 are needed to make this work today.

The Apostle starts churches.

The Prophet edifies them as per 1 Cor 14.

The Evangelist witnesses and preaches to saints as we see today.

The Pastor is an elder to instruct the saints.

The Teacher teaches the intricacies of doctrine.

No 4 fold or 3 fold ministry is God's plan for the last days.

Ephesians 2
Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household,20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.

There can be no other foundation. The foundation was built with those Apostles in Acts. It’s over no more foundations can be built. Those who try are on sinking sand and the entire structure collapses.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Affinity]

LOL, no this...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

Okay I get you. So it's like a metaphor and not literally or you would be really old.

 

[Fred]

Correct, via obeying Acts 2:38, Fred.

Incorrect, because the Gentiles received the Holy Spirit BEFORE their water baptism.

 

[Affinity]

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

You're going to need to change your avatar. Just kidding. It is kind of gross though.

 

[360watt]

LOL, no this...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

The 3000 were already saved, being added as members to the church at Jerusalem. The church at Jerusalem is the context... Not all redeemed.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I would like to see a scripture in the New Testament that explains how the apostles ministry ended when they died?
And another scripture that explains how the other four parts of the ministry continue.

It didn't die. We are still the product of their ministries.

Even during the time of the apostles, their powers and gifts gradually "waned". Paul even suffered through a horrible limiting "torn in the flesh" in his life.

Where were the apostles going about "healing all manner of sicknesses" at the END of the book of Acts?

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't have the power, I use the name by faith as this man did....


12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?...

16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong,


7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?

10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ...

Good. You're the one appealing to the "multi-fold" ministry of the apostles.

 

[Fred]

Where were the apostles going about "healing all manner of sicknesses" at the END of the book of Acts?

Notice also the last part of 2 Timothy 4:20.

 

[360watt]

One line of reasoning that what the apostles doing was exceptional and limited to their time is the decrease in mention of signs, miracles and wonders as you go thru the NT.

 

[civic]

One line of reasoning that what the apostles doing was exceptional and limited to their time is the decrease in mention of signs, miracles and wonders as you go thru the NT.

Bingo it virtually came to a screeching halt

 

[Ezra]

Immersed into Christ. Baptism designates conversion another way, in that it is associated with being plunged into or immersed in Christ.

In Galatians 3:26 Paul affirms that believers are God’s children in Christ Jesus through faith. The ground for this assertion is that all believers were clothed with Christ when they were baptized into Christ: “For as many as were baptized into Christ are clothed with Christ” Gal 3:27

spiritual baptism by one spirit water baptism is out ward spiritual is inward

 

[Truther]

Ephesians 2
Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household,20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.

There can be no other foundation. The foundation was built with those Apostles in Acts. It’s over no more foundations can be built. Those who try are on sinking sand and the entire structure collapses.

hope this helps !!!

Prophets are also dissolved?

 

[Truther]

Okay I get you. So it's like a metaphor and not literally or you would be really old.

No, it is a universal command that did not expire.