The interesting thing about being born again is that it implies a second birth and necessitates a first death. So when was the first death? Just curious what your answer is. Normally I've asked that to Trinitarians before.
Before being born again - we are natural man of body, soul, spirit (the spirit of man) - dead in trespasses and sins - that is spiritually dead. When we are born again - we are born again of the Spirit and become partakers of the divine nature.
First birth - That which is born of the flesh is flesh. Second birth - That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. That is basically how I understand it. Is that what you were asking? Are your thoughts similar?
Before being born again - we are natural man of body, soul, spirit (the spirit of man) - dead in trespasses and sins - that is spiritually dead. When we are born again - we are born again of the Spirit and become partakers of the divine nature.
First birth - That which is born of the flesh is flesh. Second birth - That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. That is basically how I understand it. Is that what you were asking? Are your thoughts similar?
I think of people like Adam and Eve when they start off. They are sinless just like Jesus was when he was born, except everyone else eventually sins. God told Adam that the day he sinned he would die, yet Adam kept right on walking. Who died then? Only Adam's spirit. And if someone can spiritually die once, can they spiritually die again?
I think of people like Adam and Eve when they start off. They are sinless just like Jesus was when he was born, except everyone else eventually sins. God told Adam that the day he sinned he would die, yet Adam kept right on walking. Who died then? Only Adam's spirit. And if someone can spiritually die once, can they spiritually die again?
It depends upon what the scripture means by 'in the day'. It is the Hebrew word - yôm - meaning day, time, year; day (as opposed to night); day (24 hour period) a. as defined by evening and morning in Gen. 1; b. as a division of time - a working day, a day's journey; days, lifetime (pl.); time, period (general); year; temporal references - today, yesterday, tomorrow.
So does 'in that day' mean a 24 hour period? or did 'in that day' mean 'a general period of time' . . . The way I see it since Adam did not die 'in that day' as in 24 hours and God does not lie - maybe He meant 'a general period of time'. Or maybe the disobedience of Adam brought the sentence of death into the world and therefore, the process of death begins when we are born - our bodies begin aging and the process begins that leads to our eventual death.
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— . . . .Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous . . . [Romans 5]
We are spiritually dead ONLY once as a result of Adam's disobedience.
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