The Trinity and all of its supporting doctrines are all circular in reasoning

[Runningman]

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If God is a trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit co-equal in every way, then this means that the Son in the trinity doesn't know what the Father knows. This also proves that God can't be defined as a trinity, it rules the Son out of being a member of such. In trinitarian theology, the Son and Father and Holy Spirit must always know the same things, but in the Bible that isn't how it is.

 

[synergy]

Revelation 5:7-14 proves that the Lamb is not the One on the throne because not only did the Lamb approach the throne, the Lamb isn't on the throne where they were worshipping. Conclusion, no worship of the Lamb in Revelation 5 either explicitly or inferred.

Actually, Rev 3:21 does say that Jesus did sit down with the Father on His Throne. That makes no difference to you because you always disregard that verse.

(Rev 3:21) To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame and have sat down with My Father in His throne.

So stop running away from my question: Do you offer the same worship to Jesus as you do to “the One who sits on the throne”?

Jesus doesn't share any of God's names, and there are about a dozen titles he doesn't share with God. Probably the biggest issue is that Jesus isn't even the same person as God, never called The God, never called Lord God Almighty, never called YHWH, etc. It's a long list.

Scripture nowhere requires Jesus to be called “the Father” or to merge the persons in order to share the divine name. On the contrary, the New Testament explicitly applies YHWH texts, divine titles, divine functions, and divine worship to Jesus: He is called God (John 1:1; John 20:28; Titus 2:13), Lord in the YHWH sense (Phil 2:9–11 citing Isa 45:23), Alpha and Omega / First and Last (Rev 1:17; 22:13), Creator (John 1:3; Col 1:16), Judge of all (John 5:22–23), and the rightful recipient of prayer and worship. The claim that Jesus is “never called Lord God Almighty” proves nothing—titles are not checklists, and divine identity in Scripture is revealed through shared prerogatives, glory, and worship, not through wooden repetition of phrases.

 

[Runningman]

Actually, Rev 3:21 does say that Jesus did sit down with the Father on His Throne. That makes no difference to you because you always disregard that verse.

(Rev 3:21) To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame and have sat down with My Father in His throne.

So stop running away from my question: Do you offer the same worship to Jesus as you do to “the One who sits on the throne”?

Scripture nowhere requires Jesus to be called “the Father” or to merge the persons in order to share the divine name. On the contrary, the New Testament explicitly applies YHWH texts, divine titles, divine functions, and divine worship to Jesus: He is called God (John 1:1; John 20:28; Titus 2:13), Lord in the YHWH sense (Phil 2:9–11 citing Isa 45:23), Alpha and Omega / First and Last (Rev 1:17; 22:13), Creator (John 1:3; Col 1:16), Judge of all (John 5:22–23), and the rightful recipient of prayer and worship. The claim that Jesus is “never called Lord God Almighty” proves nothing—titles are not checklists, and divine identity in Scripture is revealed through shared prerogatives, glory, and worship, not through wooden repetition of phrases.

Yeah, not the same throne as God. You'll see now that the Lamb approached the throne, after getting up from his own throne.

Revelation 5
7And He came and took the scroll from the right hand of the One seated on the throne.

So your idea about the Lamb literally sitting on the throne of God lacks consistently, and con be demonstrated repeatedly to be a poor interpretation of Scripture. Soon we will show you seven ways to Sunday how Jesus isn't on the throne of God and isn't even permanently at the right hand of God. Just depends how well you humbly receive the truth.

 

[synergy]

Yeah, not the same throne as God.

You continue to flat out deny Rev 3:21 where Christ said, “I sat down with My Father on His throne,” which explicitly affirms the very same Throne as God the Father.

Continuing to discuss Scripture with those who deny it like you do is useless.

You'll see now that the Lamb approached the throne, after getting up from his own throne.

Revelation 5
7And He came and took the scroll from the right hand of the One seated on the throne.

So your idea about the Lamb literally sitting on the throne of God lacks consistently, and con be demonstrated repeatedly to be a poor interpretation of Scripture. Soon we will show you seven ways to Sunday how Jesus isn't on the throne of God and isn't even permanently at the right hand of God. Just depends how well you humbly receive the truth.

The Lamb approaching “the One seated on the throne” shows personal distinction, not inferiority or exclusion from the throne. The same book later declares the exact opposite of your claim: “the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it” (Revelation 22:1, 3), using a singular throne shared jointly, not two competing thrones. Scripture also repeatedly affirms His permanent exaltation at the right hand of God (Hebrews 1:3; 10:12–13), language denoting supreme authority, not temporary seating arrangements. Your reading continues to deny verses upon verses.