The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil

[jeremiah1five]

Again, you make Jesus a LIAR. That is not what Jesus said. If this is what the anointing is telling you, you need to question your anointing in line with 1 John. Since you make Jesus out to be a liar, how can you accept who Jesus is, which is God? God cannot lie/sin, yet, once again you make Jesus a liar. And you have done this on more than one occassion (making Jesus/God a liar). I point them out, but you have no answer but to double down on Jesus/God having lied. IF Jesus/God lied, then He is a sinner just like you and me, and therefore, you do not believe in the Jesus/God of the Bible.

"17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

Why was the rich man grieved? Was it because Jesus just explained to him how to be rich? No, Jesus did no such thing. Jesus was answering the rich young ruler's question of how to inherit eternal life. The point Jesus was making is as long as that rich young ruler trusts in riches, and does not trust in Jesus, he will not inherit eternal life. As long as the rich young ruler's love is his riches/money, there is no room for love of God. Be in the world (not much of a choice for us), but not OF the world.

Jesus point is covered with Saul/Paul. God intervened DIRECTLY with Saul, or Saul would have just kept right on going persecuting the church, and nothing the church said or did would have changed that. With men it is impossible, but with God, the impossible is possible. And that is logical, if you actually understand God, man, and God's relationship with man.

The rich man became saved when the Holy Spirit came down in Acts 2. Three thousand Jews were born again. No Gentiles. The Hebrew people have covenant of salvation with God, Gentiles don't. If you want to talk about a people that are damned start with Gentiles. The whole lot of non-Hebrew Gentiles get their comeuppance in Revelation 20:7-9. Doesn't look good for them at all.

 

[armylngst]

You have a fatalistic view of Jesus Christ and of the good news behind His Ministry to Israel. But that's what happens when Gentiles re-interpret the Hebrew Scripture (Genesis to Revelation.)

It is not fatalistic. It is a realist view. The Jews rejected God in the Old Testament, and then rejected Christ in the New Testament. The thing you seem intent on ignoring is all the prophecy in the Old Testament. The most important being the 70 weeks prophecy. The other is Israel's last exile, and the Leviticus principle, which some say put the end of the exile as 1948. (Strangely enough that is when Israel became a nation again...however, that is those pesky dispensationalists, so it can't be true, right?) The Old Testament makes it clear that all Israel will not be saved. In fact, I believe Paul said that not all who are of Israel are... of Israel. Paul also speaks of a remnant in Israel, speaking of the same remnant (new people obviously) that God spoke to Elijah about. Those whom God has set aside for Himself. No idol worshiping Hebrew/Jew will be in God's kingdom. No covenant violator will be there. It matters not what you say, for God is clear in His word.

Christ was promised to Israel and to Israel He came, to save that which was lost and to redeem the Hebrew people to Himself. As a Hebrew from the tribe of Judah Jesus came to save the Hebrew nation. And this He did.

Not yet. They are still under God's judgment. The 70 weeks has not ended yet. Why? It is the times of the Gentiles. God is dealing with the Gentiles. You know, those Gentiles who are trampling on Jerusalem until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. At that point, God will finish His decree to Israel and their redemption will be complete.

Whether you want to believe the Scripture that focuses on His Ministry to the Hebrew people. Last I checked there were twelve Hebrews at the last Passover of Jesus. They all rejected and abandoned Him when the soldiers came calling. In your world of false gospel it seems all the twelve disciples except Judas are damned. Jesus called Judas "friend" and the only other person God called friend was Abraham. There are no friends of God in hell.

Jesus called Judas a devil. (John 6) Apparently you only have a surface understanding, and twist everything else you do not understand. Jesus said it as striking down the shepherd and the sheep will scatter. Notice, sheep. He didn't say they were goats or any other animal. Still sheep. Consider Peter. Peter shut himself out, and went back to his old way of life because he believed that his rejection of Jesus was final. However, in his heart, Peter never rejected Jesus. Jesus knew this. Also, Jesus said that he would not lose a single one of whom the Father had given Him. The eleven, minus Judas. Though Jesus made it clear, very clear, in John 6 that Judas was not one of his. Judas in one of the only people in history who is cursed and damned by God. It doesn't matter that he is Jewish. He is accursed of God. Also, platitudes are not doctrine or theology. Platitudes are what almost got Job's friends all killed by God. Don't use platitutdes.

Go back to school and stop being a fatalist where the good news is concerned, the good news about Jesus Christ because there are more than one good news in the bible than just His.

I'm not a fatalist. I am a realist. Also, you have no idea what I think or believe. My one prayer for a long time is that if it is in God's will, I want to live to see His glorious salvation of Israel. It will be glorious. However, your vision is not glorious. Your view does not have God rescuing Israel from the brink of disaster. It does not speak of God's judgment and the damnation of a large part of the nation of Israel, and God's glorious salvation of His remnant in Israel. If I have a fatalistic view of the gospel it is for the Gentiles who will not be saved in the same manner. (You have to read the Bible to understand what I am saying.)

You have to stop reinterpreting what God has said. Jesus was sent to Israel, but the salvation was promised to the whole world. If everything happened in the perfect way God only gave a dim view of in scripture, Israel would have been bringing the world to God, and God would save the world through the ministry of Israel. However, Israel rejected God, and God has been judging/punishing them since. Why? God chastises those whom He loves. Many are damned, but God will save His elect remnant in Israel at the end of the age. Those who are of Israel, not those whom Paul says are not of Israel, though they are of Israel. That is, they are descendants of Abraham by Haggar, and not by Isaac. The fleshy descendants, and not the spiritual descendants by faith.

 

[armylngst]

The rich man became saved when the Holy Spirit came down in Acts 2. Three thousand Jews were born again. No Gentiles. The Hebrew people have covenant of salvation with God, Gentiles don't. If you want to talk about a people that are damned start with Gentiles. The whole lot of non-Hebrew Gentiles get their comeuppance in Revelation 20:7-9. Doesn't look good for them at all.

There is absolutely no reason to believe this. And scripture is clear that there were proselytes (read Gentiles) there. There is no covenant of salvation. Don't invent something that does not exist. Why would God damn Adam, Eve, Abel, Seth, Enoch, Noah, Melchizedek, Rahab, Ruth, etc. They are non-Hebrew Gentiles. Enoch walked with God, and God took him. Enoch didn't even die. There is only one other person who didn't die, and that is Elijah. Now, tradition says that Jeremiah didn't die, but, if I recall, that is not in all traditions. You put yourself at odds with those who believe the "sons of God" in Genesis are the children of Seth, and that they were perfect and sinless. (I do not believe that.)

While I said there is absolutely no reason to believe what you said, is it possible? Sure. However, your speculation and assumptions are uncalled for. I'm sure that special mention would have been made considering what Jesus said about rich people. We still have you lying about what Jesus said. Not to mention lying about what God said. Why should anyone trust a liar?

 

[jeremiah1five]

It is not fatalistic. It is a realist view. The Jews rejected God in the Old Testament, and then rejected Christ in the New Testament. The thing you seem intent on ignoring is all the prophecy in the Old Testament. The most important being the 70 weeks prophecy. The other is Israel's last exile, and the Leviticus principle, which some say put the end of the exile as 1948. (Strangely enough that is when Israel became a nation again...however, that is those pesky dispensationalists, so it can't be true, right?) The Old Testament makes it clear that all Israel will not be saved. In fact, I believe Paul said that not all who are of Israel are... of Israel. Paul also speaks of a remnant in Israel, speaking of the same remnant (new people obviously) that God spoke to Elijah about. Those whom God has set aside for Himself. No idol worshiping Hebrew/Jew will be in God's kingdom. No covenant violator will be there. It matters not what you say, for God is clear in His word.

Not yet. They are still under God's judgment. The 70 weeks has not ended yet. Why? It is the times of the Gentiles. God is dealing with the Gentiles. You know, those Gentiles who are trampling on Jerusalem until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. At that point, God will finish His decree to Israel and their redemption will be complete.

Jesus called Judas a devil. (John 6) Apparently you only have a surface understanding, and twist everything else you do not understand. Jesus said it as striking down the shepherd and the sheep will scatter. Notice, sheep. He didn't say they were goats or any other animal. Still sheep. Consider Peter. Peter shut himself out, and went back to his old way of life because he believed that his rejection of Jesus was final. However, in his heart, Peter never rejected Jesus. Jesus knew this. Also, Jesus said that he would not lose a single one of whom the Father had given Him. The eleven, minus Judas. Though Jesus made it clear, very clear, in John 6 that Judas was not one of his. Judas in one of the only people in history who is cursed and damned by God. It doesn't matter that he is Jewish. He is accursed of God. Also, platitudes are not doctrine or theology. Platitudes are what almost got Job's friends all killed by God. Don't use platitutdes.

I'm not a fatalist. I am a realist. Also, you have no idea what I think or believe. My one prayer for a long time is that if it is in God's will, I want to live to see His glorious salvation of Israel. It will be glorious. However, your vision is not glorious. Your view does not have God rescuing Israel from the brink of disaster. It does not speak of God's judgment and the damnation of a large part of the nation of Israel, and God's glorious salvation of His remnant in Israel. If I have a fatalistic view of the gospel it is for the Gentiles who will not be saved in the same manner. (You have to read the Bible to understand what I am saying.)

You have to stop reinterpreting what God has said. Jesus was sent to Israel, but the salvation was promised to the whole world. If everything happened in the perfect way God only gave a dim view of in scripture, Israel would have been bringing the world to God, and God would save the world through the ministry of Israel. However, Israel rejected God, and God has been judging/punishing them since. Why? God chastises those whom He loves. Many are damned, but God will save His elect remnant in Israel at the end of the age. Those who are of Israel, not those whom Paul says are not of Israel, though they are of Israel. That is, they are descendants of Abraham by Haggar, and not by Isaac. The fleshy descendants, and not the spiritual descendants by faith.

Jesus on the night He was betrayed instituted a New Covenant in His blood in the place of the animals being sacrificed on this Yom Kippur which was Jesus' last Passover before He died. His death was to fulfill promises and prophesy of Israel's Redeemer. This cannot be taken away by anyone, not even you. And what was this New Covenant? Jeremiah provides the description of this New Covenant below:

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:31–34.

This is what God did. All the sins of Israel have been forgiven and atoned. This was done on the cross of Jesus who died in fulfillment of promise and prophecies to atone the sins of Israel finally and forever. Whatever sins you think are retained by Israel is lies for the Scripture says God forgives Israel.

You can't make an adjective become a noun or pronoun. The word "devil" in John 6:70.

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
John 6:70–71.

Let's look at the choosing.

12 And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.
13 And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;
14 Simon, (whom he also named Peter,) and Andrew his brother, James and John, Philip and Bartholomew,
15 Matthew and Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called Zelotes,
16 And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. Luke 6:12–16.

Jesus named them 'apostles.' Not eleven apostles and one "devil-apostle." They are all called apostles by Jesus. True apostles chosen in the same capacity as each other. And if you ever studied the question of Judas, you will find that the Holy Spirit calls Judas "one of the twelve," Now, if you want to contradict Jesus' "naming them His apostles" and the Holy Spirit identifying him as always "one of the twelve" you are free to do that. I on the other hand do not contradict Jesus of His Spirit. And the word "devil" means "traducer." Do you know what that word means? It means "one who impugns the character of another." In other words, a liar. And that what Judas did in going to the priests asking what price he would be given to help them capture Jesus. But you've never studied the question of Judas. You merely regurgitate textbook responses. You never studied the subject on your own and this leads to your error.

What was supposed to happen under the Law of Moses? Again, let's see what Scripture records:

3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
Matthew 27:3–5.

Judas repented. (changed his mind.)
Judas confessed his sin.
Completed his repentance with action. He rejected the mammon and threw the money right back at the priests.
That looks like the correct 'formula' under the Law. And what is the penalty for someone who was complicit in the death of an innocent man? Isn't it life for life? Yes, that is what the Law commands. And what did the priests do? Did they follow the Law and take Judas outside the city and stone him as prescribed by the Law under life for life?
No, they told him to "handle it yourself."
He did. In obedience to the Law, he did what the priests failed to do, and he went and handled it himself. He hung himself in obedience to the Law of life for life.
Sounds to me like a conversion under the Law of Moses. A correct study of the question of Judas' eternal place of residence is that he is with Jesus. There are no apostles of the Lord in "hell." Jesus' death paid the sins of Judas and all Israel which is why Saul states unequivocally that "all Israel shall be saved."

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Romans 11:25–27.

And this is exactly what Jesus died for, the atonement of "all Israel" Judas included. But if you have a whacked out idea of what Jesus' death meant for Israel then you will hate on the priests and on Judas. To you salvation is to whom YOU THINK should receive it ignoring the doctrine of soteriology/salvation and in the place of God dictate to whom God's atonement should be given to. To hell with the priests and save Gentiles! But there is nothing of the sort in the Word of God. Jesus is the King of the Jews and their Savior. This is what the Bible teaches. You should study this and stop giving me textbook and canned responses. Jesus' death was to save Israel and this He did. This is the forgiveness God gave to the House of Israel and the House of Judah. That's the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah and fulfilled by Jesus and now all Israel is saved. Everyone.

 

[jeremiah1five]

There is absolutely no reason to believe this. And scripture is clear that there were proselytes (read Gentiles) there. There is no covenant of salvation. Don't invent something that does not exist. Why would God damn Adam, Eve, Abel, Seth, Enoch, Noah, Melchizedek, Rahab, Ruth, etc. They are non-Hebrew Gentiles. Enoch walked with God, and God took him. Enoch didn't even die. There is only one other person who didn't die, and that is Elijah. Now, tradition says that Jeremiah didn't die, but, if I recall, that is not in all traditions. You put yourself at odds with those who believe the "sons of God" in Genesis are the children of Seth, and that they were perfect and sinless. (I do not believe that.)

While I said there is absolutely no reason to believe what you said, is it possible? Sure. However, your speculation and assumptions are uncalled for. I'm sure that special mention would have been made considering what Jesus said about rich people. We still have you lying about what Jesus said. Not to mention lying about what God said. Why should anyone trust a liar?

Why would anyone trust someone who doesn't search the Scripture under the anointing to come to the knowledge of the truth? I used to believe the garbage you espouse, and I used to read and take the textbook responses you regurgitate until I rejected all those false teaching that replace Israel with Gentiles. Too bad you don't have the truth on your side. Only textbook responses. I recognize them all because I used to believe in that garbage as you do now. Very sad.

 

[armylngst]

Why would anyone trust someone who doesn't search the Scripture under the anointing to come to the knowledge of the truth? I used to believe the garbage you espouse, and I used to read and take the textbook responses you regurgitate until I rejected all those false teaching that replace Israel with Gentiles. Too bad you don't have the truth on your side. Only textbook responses. I recognize them all because I used to believe in that garbage as you do now. Very sad.

So someone who lies about God and what God has said, and makes God a liar, and one who lies about what Jesus says should be trusted to tell us about God and Jesus? Do tell.

I'm pretty sure you would get kicked out of a synogogue once you even utter the word anointing. Israel has not been replaced by the Gentiles. The Gentiles may be the focus right now, given the prophecies in the Old Testament, and Jesus own words in Matthew 24 and Luke 21, but they have not supplanted Israel. Israel is under Gods judgment at this time, for their idolatry and sin, and beyond that for rejecting the Messiah. However, the times of the Gentiles will come to an end, as Jesus Himself alludes to in Luke 21, and Paul alludes to in Romans 11. At that time, Jesus Himself will come to the aid/rescue of Israel in its most dire hour, and rescue them. At that time, they will recognize the one they crucified, and it will crush them. As Zechariah says, each family, each person remaining alive (in Israel) will mourn for him as for a first child. At THAT TIME, God will break forth fountains of repentance, and so on and so forth, and those alive will be saved. All of them. The only ones still alive will be the remnant elect in Israel. All the rest who rejected God and Christ will be dead.

Then begins the millennial reign over the whole world, with the Capital being Jerusalem and Israel. This is the kingdom God promises to Israel, but it's extent will be the whole world/all creation. This is the part in Zechariah where it talks about everyone seeking out Jews in order to go and learn about God. It is also where it speaks of the judgment that will fall upon any nation (non-Jewish Gentile) that failed to celebrate the festival of booths, among other things. At the end of the Millennial reign over the Earth (all creation basically), Satan will be released, and will deceive all who are not chosen of God, and they will all be destroyed, along with the final enemy death. And Paul says in Corinthians that at that time, the Son will return the Kingdom to the Father that He might be all in all.

Gentiles have NOT replaced Israel. I'm not sure where you get this crazy heretical idea, but it never happened. The church stands between the Gentiles and Israel, and is made up of both Gentiles and Jews. The two were made one. There have only been two people. Those who are the chosen people of God, and those who are not, the Jews and the Gentiles. Jesus put to death the enmity, that is the hatred, that stood between the two in His body, and both are one in the church. That does not nullify God's promises to Israel. That does not nullify the covenant. It does away with the Law, for Christ has already fulfilled that. The Gentiles in the church are not a part of the covenant, but are blessed by the promise made by God to Abraham in Genesis 22 (I believe, or is that 23?) The Gentiles BENEFIT from the promise, but are not directly part of it. The fact that you cannot wrap your mind around that is quite troubling. This is exactly drawn from the parable of the wedding feast told by Jesus. Those who were shut out from the wedding were the Jews. However, it is not all the Jews, as it speaks of the rich and famous. They get shut out, and the Father sends out his servants to gather everyone else. Jews and Gentiles. Everyone who had not rejected the invitation. And even then, God shows that not all of them are saved, as one man is unceremoniously thrown out for his insult. (Not dressed in wedding attire, even though he could have asked the Father for such clothing if he did not have it.)

Not all will be saved. However, all chosen by God (Ephesians 1) will be saved (John 6).

 

[armylngst]

Jesus on the night He was betrayed instituted a New Covenant in His blood in the place of the animals being sacrificed on this Yom Kippur which was Jesus' last Passover before He died. His death was to fulfill promises and prophesy of Israel's Redeemer. This cannot be taken away by anyone, not even you. And what was this New Covenant? Jeremiah provides the description of this New Covenant below:

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:31–34.

This is what God did. All the sins of Israel have been forgiven and atoned. This was done on the cross of Jesus who died in fulfillment of promise and prophecies to atone the sins of Israel finally and forever. Whatever sins you think are retained by Israel is lies for the Scripture says God forgives Israel.

You can't make an adjective become a noun or pronoun. The word "devil" in John 6:70.

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
John 6:70–71.

Let's look at the choosing.

12 And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.
13 And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;
14 Simon, (whom he also named Peter,) and Andrew his brother, James and John, Philip and Bartholomew,
15 Matthew and Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called Zelotes,
16 And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. Luke 6:12–16.

Jesus named them 'apostles.' Not eleven apostles and one "devil-apostle." They are all called apostles by Jesus. True apostles chosen in the same capacity as each other. And if you ever studied the question of Judas, you will find that the Holy Spirit calls Judas "one of the twelve," Now, if you want to contradict Jesus' "naming them His apostles" and the Holy Spirit identifying him as always "one of the twelve" you are free to do that. I on the other hand do not contradict Jesus of His Spirit. And the word "devil" means "traducer." Do you know what that word means? It means "one who impugns the character of another." In other words, a liar. And that what Judas did in going to the priests asking what price he would be given to help them capture Jesus. But you've never studied the question of Judas. You merely regurgitate textbook responses. You never studied the subject on your own and this leads to your error.

What was supposed to happen under the Law of Moses? Again, let's see what Scripture records:

3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
Matthew 27:3–5.

Judas repented. (changed his mind.)
Judas confessed his sin.
Completed his repentance with action. He rejected the mammon and threw the money right back at the priests.
That looks like the correct 'formula' under the Law. And what is the penalty for someone who was complicit in the death of an innocent man? Isn't it life for life? Yes, that is what the Law commands. And what did the priests do? Did they follow the Law and take Judas outside the city and stone him as prescribed by the Law under life for life?
No, they told him to "handle it yourself."
He did. In obedience to the Law, he did what the priests failed to do, and he went and handled it himself. He hung himself in obedience to the Law of life for life.
Sounds to me like a conversion under the Law of Moses. A correct study of the question of Judas' eternal place of residence is that he is with Jesus. There are no apostles of the Lord in "hell." Jesus' death paid the sins of Judas and all Israel which is why Saul states unequivocally that "all Israel shall be saved."

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Romans 11:25–27.

And this is exactly what Jesus died for, the atonement of "all Israel" Judas included. But if you have a whacked out idea of what Jesus' death meant for Israel then you will hate on the priests and on Judas. To you salvation is to whom YOU THINK should receive it ignoring the doctrine of soteriology/salvation and in the place of God dictate to whom God's atonement should be given to. To hell with the priests and save Gentiles! But there is nothing of the sort in the Word of God. Jesus is the King of the Jews and their Savior. This is what the Bible teaches. You should study this and stop giving me textbook and canned responses. Jesus' death was to save Israel and this He did. This is the forgiveness God gave to the House of Israel and the House of Judah. That's the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah and fulfilled by Jesus and now all Israel is saved. Everyone.

You keep denying things that God Himself said. "Thus saith the Lord". 2/3rds of Israel will PERISH. John 3:16 ...will not PERISH but have everlasting life. They are damned. Paul already explained it. Not all who are of Israel are of Israel, and circumcision of the heart is what matters, not of the flesh. Those who are simply physical descendants of Abraham are damned, only the spiritual descendants of Abraham are truly Israel and are saved. And the Gentiles who are spiritual descendants of Abraham are only descendants because they came to Christ by faith. They are not Israel, but are blessed by Abraham's faith that God made a promise that the whole world would be blessed in Christ, Abraham's seed. And that promise, God made clear, was made solely because of Abraham's faith. We benefit from God's promise to Abraham in faith. There is no, give me now. There is no, this is owed to me. If you have faith, you are blessed in Abraham's faith. If you do not have faith, you are damned.

You speculate too much about Judas. Even Jeremiah 20 seems to curse the very day he was born. All you can do is wait and see. I know, you will have a heart attack when you see Adam, Eve, Abel, Seth, Enoch, Noah, Melchizedek, and all the other non-Jewish Gentiles praising God before His throne. I can see you marching right up to God and ordering Him to kick them out.

Again, as I say in the other message, Israel has not been replaced. They may be off to the side as God deals with the Gentiles, but they will be center stage, and the end of the world focuses on Israel. The whole world may be involved, but the main performace is in Israel. God's final judgment and final salvation of Israel. God doesn't trouble with the Gentiles because they didn't reject the gospel when it came to them. (Romans 11)

So what does Paul tell the Gentiles about the Jews? "28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes."