How do the unsaved suffer forever in hell without the Tree of Life?

[Angelo]

There’s no doubt that Christians go wrong, make mistakes, sin, even deliberately. The Bible affirms this at every turn. In fact, it teaches that all people are guilty of sin—Christians and non-Christians alike. And if anyone denies this, he is a liar

Since all have sinned and are falling short of the honor and glory which God bestows and receives.
Romans 3:23

If we say (claim) we have not sinned, we contradict His Word and make Him out to be false and a liar, and His Word is not in us [the divine message of the Gospel is not in our hearts].
1 John 1:10.

Indeed, the purpose of Jesus’ coming, and the heart of His present ministry, is to save lost sinners. Jesus came to heal the sick, not the healthy.

But when Jesus heard it, He replied, Those who are strong and well (healthy) have no need of a physician, but those who are weak and sick.
13 Go and learn what this means: I desire mercy [that is, readiness to help those in trouble] and not sacrifice and sacrificial victims. For I came not to call and invite [to repentance] the righteous (those who are upright and in right standing with God), but sinners (the erring ones and all those not free from sin).
Mtt. 9:12–13.

For this reason, Christians are the first to admit they are sinners. That’s how they came to Christ, accepting His invitation to all sinners to come to Him. Christianity even encourages its members to confess their sins “to one another”

Confess to one another therefore your faults (your slips, your false steps, your offenses, your sins) and pray [also] for one another, that you may be healed and restored [to a spiritual tone of mind and heart]. The earnest (heartfelt, continued) prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power available [dynamic in its working].
James 5:16

 

[charismaticlady]

Sinless perfection is heresy

This is also for @Angelo and @Victoria

Who is it that teaches sinless perfection? I don't, because it doesn't happen all at once. That is the end product that Jesus told us to be before we die and remain in the state we are finally in. Revelation 22:11 " 11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.” Sinless is righteous; perfect is holy. Romans 6 and 1 John 3 are about righteousness. 2 Peter 1:2-11 is about holiness.

But Jesus taking away the sins unto death from our nature is what 1 John 3:4-5 is talking about. Lawlessness is sins unto death. It is called making us righteous as the rest of the chapter proclaims. But JF, Jesus doesn't stop there! Then comes the long process of He, Himself, making us perfect by maturing each fruit of the Spirit one at a time as long as we let Him by abiding in Him. "You shall be made perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect." Peter says, "Be holy, and I am holy." Jesus does it all as the Author and Finisher of our faith - from faith to faith, Romans 1:16-17. Revelation 22:11 " 11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.” 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. This is just the beginning...

I've heard your statement quite often, but always from a denomination that judges Christianity by human experience, believing what the demons taught the church father of that denomination. All denominationalists seem to believe the heresy that their spider tells them against the supernatural power of God in the nature of the born again of the Spirit. If the spider can teach their flies the lie that a Christian will always sin based on the pre-born again scripture 1 John 1:8, they can get you to stay filthy until you die, then you'll be damned and they can eat you.

9 But as it is written:

“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

If you really are a Jesus Fan then believe what He says and stop being a fly.